Recommended Posts

Quote

 

Cop a load of this.

By Robert Purchese Published 12/06/2017

 

Cliff Bleszinski has announced a release date for LawBreakers on PC and PS4: 8th August. It will cost $29.99/£24.99.

 

A PC beta will run from 28th June to 3rd July. You'll have to head over to the LawBreakers website to sign up for it.

 

Bleszinski and studio Boss Key clearly hope the lower price point will give LawBreakers a fighting chance alongside a game like Overwatch. Bleszinski even had a little pop at $60 multiplayer-only games when he announced the price on the PC Gaming E3 stage, saying, "None of this $60 multiplayer-only bulls***".

 

Continues...

 

 

2 hours ago, George P said:

I'm not interested in these types of games and it seems more and more of them keep coming out. *sigh*

Really?  I haven't really seen a proper Unreal Tournament type of game since...UT3.  Possibly Toxikk, but I haven't gotten around to getting into that yet (largely because I don't know anyone to play it with, but I'm sure I'll pick it up.)

 

Sure, there are arena shooters, especially team based/MOBA style but I've never felt like anything went back to UT style properly (and even UT3 felt a little dated, using largely the exact same weapons and play style as the originals in large part.)

I really don't like online type shooters, but, that's the way of the future. It's just I always get matched up with these NEETs who have nothing else to do, and here I am, I work full time, and I play D&D, and I play other games, and I have some basic shooter skill, and I could hang with the 3D, zero grav movements in this game, I'd probably take right to that, but the map knowledge and the game-specific skills, some people just have that down and I'm not really an A-level player to start with. Still, it looks fun.

 

So they blasted $60 multiplayer-only shooters... at $30 this is in why-not territory, but at the same time, it's online only too, isn't it? Were they only blasting the price point or were they also blasting the lack of an offline, single player experience? Because this is the same dude who made Gears of War, and I remember that game being hard as balls on easy. Then my brother in law wanted to play two player on the highest difficulty. We actually got pretty far. One of the more memorable gaming experiences of my life, actually. Wouldn't have been able to do it alone, but this guy only plays games on the highest difficulty, and he never quits. (Unfortunately he's a pretty terrible human being for other reasons, we haven't spoken in a couple years.)

6 minutes ago, Slarlac249 said:

preordering is what's wrong with the industry, you see some trailer and preorder based on that? really?

Yes, one video is the entirety of what I make every purchase by.  There can't possibly be any other reason.

11 hours ago, dwLostCat said:

Really?  I haven't really seen a proper Unreal Tournament type of game since...UT3.  Possibly Toxikk, but I haven't gotten around to getting into that yet (largely because I don't know anyone to play it with, but I'm sure I'll pick it up.)

 

Sure, there are arena shooters, especially team based/MOBA style but I've never felt like anything went back to UT style properly (and even UT3 felt a little dated, using largely the exact same weapons and play style as the originals in large part.)

Think @George Pwas referring to more the state of games being more online focussed. We've had some discussions in other topics about this :)

  • Like 1
13 minutes ago, Slarlac249 said:

preordering is what's wrong with the industry, you see some trailer and preorder based on that? really?

 

game looks like like any other twitch shooter, fast and annoying.

I've stopped pre-ordering, think the last time that I did was with Titanfall but that's because I played heavily through the beta testing and knew what I was getting myself in for. 

 

If I manage to try a game before it's released and it's worth the pre-order I see nothing wrong, but more often than not I'll wait a few months for the price to drop and pick up it up then. The only issue with that is that the servers are usually quieter so it's only the main game types that have players.

3 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

I've stopped pre-ordering, think the last time that I did was with Titanfall but that's because I played heavily through the beta testing and knew what I was getting myself in for. 

 

If I manage to try a game before it's released and it's worth the pre-order I see nothing wrong, but more often than not I'll wait a few months for the price to drop and pick up it up then. The only issue with that is that the servers are usually quieter so it's only the main game types that have players.

You probably won't believe me but the last game i pre-ordered was battlefield 3 and i wish i hadn't. I hate what dice/ea did to the series and i hate what they did to battefront....

4 minutes ago, Slarlac249 said:

You probably won't believe me but the last game i pre-ordered was battlefield 3 and i wish i hadn't. I hate what dice/ea did to the series and i hate what they did to battefront....

Doesn't surprise me. I know there are folk on Neowin that have a huge dislike of the pre-order culture. I realised that a while back and have probably pre-ordered 2/3 games in the last decade. 

 

Also because I can't resist a bargain and pick up games in the sales so have a huge backlog :p

11 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

Doesn't surprise me. I know there are folk on Neowin that have a huge dislike of the pre-order culture. I realised that a while back and have probably pre-ordered 2/3 games in the last decade. 

 

Also because I can't resist a bargain and pick up games in the sales so have a huge backlog :p

The loud anti preorder folk are on every oldschool forum I'm on.  I don't really care if people do or don't preorder but preaching at me isn't going to change anything.

 

I trust CliffyB to know what he's doing, the game looks and sounds fun, I miss UT (obviously,) and I want to play in the beta.  I usually only preorder same month and didn't realize it was that far out, but I'll live.

 

But hey I admit I do love the trailers.  :laugh:  (This E3 esports one isn't doing it for me, but the ones on the Steam page did.)

Edited by dwLostCat
2 minutes ago, dwLostCat said:

The loud anti preorder folk are on every oldschool forum I'm on.  I don't really care if people do or don't preorder but preaching at me isn't going to change anything.

 

I trust CliffyB to know what he's doing, the game looks and sounds fun, I miss UT (obviously,) and I want to play in the beta.  I usually only preorder same month and didn't realize it was that far out, but I'll live.

 

But hey I admit I do love the trailers.  :laugh:

And that's your prerogative. Naturally you can spend your money how you like, but haven't you ever pre-ordered and the game is a pile of poo? Does that not put you off pre-ordering until you've either had a chance to play or seen/read reviews?

 

Like I said I've been burned a few times by games not delivering or the price dropping significantly <6 months after release and me wondering why I bothered pre-ordering. 

Just now, dipsylalapo said:

And that's your prerogative. Naturally you can spend your money how you like, but haven't you ever pre-ordered and the game is a pile of poo? Does that not put you off pre-ordering until you've either had a chance to play or seen/read reviews?

I don't really know.  I don't preorder games unless I know I want to play them already.

 

I can't really point to many I've preordered that legitimately sucked, even the ones with the general consensus being poor (Arkham Knight, Simcity) I either finished or put a lot of time into.

1 minute ago, dwLostCat said:

I don't really know.  I don't preorder games unless I know I want to play them already.

 

I can't really point to many I've preordered that legitimately sucked, even the ones with the general consensus being poor (Arkham Knight, Simcity) I either finished or put a lot of time into.

But how can you know you want to play them already with just videos/trailers? :p

 

An example that I have is that Watch Dogs looked amazing from the stuff we go at E3 and other conventions like it. I didn't really complain about the graphical downgrade, because I figured that playing on my Xbox One it wasn't going to look as good. I picked it up a few months back in a sale and after playing it for a number of hours I'm glad that I didn't pre-order. It's decent game, but I would have felt a little hard done by if I'd paid the full price for it. Obviously the worth of something is completely subjective. 

8 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

But how can you know you want to play them already with just videos/trailers? :p

I think I covered that pretty well a few posts up.  Whether or not you trust the developer and/or publisher to make a fun game has a lot to do with it.

 

I'm probably even preordering the Xbox One X and I consider preordering hardware ridiculous.

3 minutes ago, dwLostCat said:

I think I covered that pretty well a few posts up.  Whether or not you trust the developer and/or publisher to make a fun game has a lot to do with it.

 

I'm probably even preordering the Xbox One X and I consider preordering hardware ridiculous.

Fair enough :)

 

I think that pre-ordering hardware has lower risks than software, but again for me, I had the Xbox One on day one, only to have Kinect support drop completely and the price drop by around £100. 

6 minutes ago, dwLostCat said:

It's also worth mentioning if I don't actually like the beta or the game these days I can get a refund from EA or Valve, so that's actually pretty cool.  I have no idea if anyone else is doing that yet.

I guess that's just on PC? I usually pre-order, play the beta and then cancel/keep depending on how I feel about the beta.

12 hours ago, dwLostCat said:

Really?  I haven't really seen a proper Unreal Tournament type of game since...UT3.  Possibly Toxikk, but I haven't gotten around to getting into that yet (largely because I don't know anyone to play it with, but I'm sure I'll pick it up.)

 

Sure, there are arena shooters, especially team based/MOBA style but I've never felt like anything went back to UT style properly (and even UT3 felt a little dated, using largely the exact same weapons and play style as the originals in large part.)

I was being more general to MP/Online/Co-op only games.  I'm forever a SP, story driven game fan.  I don't like to be forced into online, I don't see the point in all of it, I get bored after a while.  I got into games way back when because of the stories and getting drawn into them, not mindlessly running around a online map killing and being killed just to level up.

4 minutes ago, George P said:

I was being more general to MP/Online/Co-op only games.  I'm forever a SP, story driven game fan.  I don't like to be forced into online, I don't see the point in all of it, I get bored after a while.  I got into games way back when because of the stories and getting drawn into them, not mindlessly running around a online map killing and being killed just to level up.

Arena shooters don't really do the 'level up' crap...that's MOBA or BF/CoD stuff.

 

Fair enough though.

2 minutes ago, George P said:

I was being more general to MP/Online/Co-op only games.  I'm forever a SP, story driven game fan.  I don't like to be forced into online, I don't see the point in all of it, I get bored after a while.  I got into games way back when because of the stories and getting drawn into them, not mindlessly running around a online map killing and being killed just to level up.

I prefer SP games but only because the times that I play are so sporadic, it's difficult to put together a meaningful team/co-op partner. *insert forever alone meme*

 

There are a lot of games that just the mindless, with the likes of your BF, CoD or Titanfall, but then there are games like Destiny, Wildlands, The Division that have the same premise but are not as mindless and work well with small teams where you can co-ordinate attacks etc.

  • 2 weeks later...

Alright first impressions of the beta: This is a lot of fun.  I suck at it, as expected.

 

I don't really like the assassins.  It's entirely too much effort to take them out.  But it makes things interesting.

 

I already like it a hell of a lot more than the Overwatch free weekend.

 

I'm not really sure if I've seen everything in the beta or not, only played around five matches so far.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • Vivaldi 8.0.4033.48 by Razvan Serea Vivaldi is a cross-platform web browser built for – and with – the web. A browser based on the Blink engine (same in Chrome and Chromium) that is fast, but also a browser that is rich in functionality, highly flexible and puts the user first. A browser that is made for you. Vivaldi is produced with love by a founding team of browser pioneers, including former CEO Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner, who co-founded and led Opera Software. Vivaldi’s interface is very customizable. Vivaldi combines simplicity and fashion to create a basic, highly customizable interface that provides everything a internet user could need. The browser allows users to customize the appearance of UI elements such as background color, overall theme, address bar and tab positioning, and start pages. Vivaldi features the ability to "stack" and "tile" tabs, annotate web pages, add notes to bookmarks and much more. Vivaldi 8.0.4033.48 changes: [Chromium] Update to 148.0.7778.267 ESR (includes security fixes from 149.0.7827.114/115) [Crash] When closing devtools with input caret in a CSS property field (VB-128998) [Linux][Media] Fetch an updated proprietary media support file (VB-129132) [Permissions] Global Permissions counter shows all permissions (64) as overridden (VB-127713) Download: Vivaldi 64-bit | 139.0 MB (Freeware) Download: Vivaldi 32-bit | ARM64 View: Vivaldi Home Page | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Two variants of the KAMRUI H2 mini PC receive deeper discounts on Amazon by Steven Parker KAMRUI (sister company of AceMagic) reached out to us, letting us know that they are applying further discounts to two of their H2 mini PC variants, and in times like these, every little helps. First off, it's the Core i5 14450HX 32GB+1TB variant, which already received a discount from $699 to $567.99 on Amazon, so you may be asking what you get for that. Its most important features are listed below. 32GB Memory Configuration, Exceptional Value. Driven by rising AI demand, the DDR memory supply is tightening, making high-capacity memory more valuable. KAMRUI maintains high-quality standards while offering strong value with a 32GB RAM + 1TB SSD configuration, which delivers excellent performance and storage. Intel i5-14450HX, HX-Class Performance Powered by the Intel Core i5-14450HX (10 cores/16 threads, up to 4.8GHz, 54W TDP)-HX series delivers desktop-class performance. Enjoy up to 120% higher multi-core performance vs. i7-1185G7 and stronger sustained performance than Ryzen 9 6900HX under heavy workloads. With 14450HX performance, it handles coding, compiling, Docker with ease, runs 10+ apps simultaneously—Excel, Chrome, Zoom, video editing—with smooth multitasking and fast load times. 32GB RAM & 1TB NVMe SSD - expandable up to 4TB Mini pc W-11 Pro equipped with 32GB (16GB×2) DDR4 dual-channel memory and a 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0×4 SSD, mini pc delivers fast system response and efficient data access for demanding workloads. Dual M.2 slots support storage expansion up to 4TB. Large memory support running multiple virtual machines simultaneously, enabling fast deployment and isolated sandbox testing, significantly improving development efficiency and multitasking performance. HX-Class Heat Dissipation, Higher Productivity 14450HX Mini computers W-11 pro equipped with upgraded silent centrifugal fans, dual copper heat pipes, dual fin-stack cooling modules, and an optimized dual-airflow design, the processor can maintain ≥95% of multi-core performance even under long-duration heavy workloads. The HX platform is specifically designed for multitasking, rendering, and content creation, and multitasking, delivering desktop-class stability and powerful performance. Triple 4K Productivity Power Supports triple 4K displays and handles complex workflows like coding, data processing, and multitasking with ease. WiFi 6 delivers fast, reliable connectivity for video, conferencing, and transfers. Bluetooth 5.2 ensures stable, low-latency wireless connections. Versatile Connectivity This mini computer comes with 1x Type-C(10Gbps data transfer), 1x RJ45 Ethernet, 2x USB3.2 Gen2 (10Gbps), 4x USB3.2 Gen1 Type-A (5Gbps), PD output, 1x HDMI 2.0, 1x DP 1.4, and 1x 3.5mm audio jack. It offers versatile connectivity to connect multiple devices effortlessly, reducing the need for frequent plugging and unplugging. Small Size, Big Performance Mini PC measures just 5.04 × 5.04 × 1.63 inches, over 80% smaller than a traditional desktop, yet equipped with the high-performance 14450HX processor for near-desktop-level power. With VESA mounting support, it transforms cluttered desks into clean, organized setups. Normally costing $699, but now down to $ 535.79, which includes an additional 6% off the Amazon listed price. That equals a total of 24% off the MSRP. KAMRUI Hyper H2 (Core i5 14450HX 32GB+1TB) for $ 535.79 (was $699) Use code 2UD2IW7D for the above price during checkout (expires on June 30) Editors note: This appears to be listed as a "frequently returned item" on Amazon, but you should take into account the reviews on the page that discuss a completely different PC, it would seem that this is yet another recycled sales page that is now listing this newer item, possibly to retain the positive 4.5 star rating on the page. Next up, we have the Core i9 14900HX/32GB+1TB variant, which normally costs $799.99 but is already discounted to $759.99 on Amazon. Again, the most important highlights for this variant are listed below. Upgrade 14th Intel Core i9-14900HX Processor KAMRUI Mini Computers features the 14th Gen Intel Core i9-14900HX processor (up to 5.8GHz, TDP 55W, 36MB cache, 24C/32T), delivering 25%–40% higher performance than the i5-14450HX (24C/32T) and i7-1280P in multitasking, creative work, and high-load applications. Manufactured using Intel 7 (10 nm) process technology, Mini Computer efficiently allocates workloads to deliver faster response times, smoother operation, and heightened productivity. 32GB DDR4 & 1TB SSD - Expandable to 4TB KAMRUI Intel Core i9-14900HX mini PC features dual-channel 32GB DDR memory (expandable to 64GB) and 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0×4 SSD, delivering speeds 40% faster than PCIe Gen3. The KAMRUI Micro PC features two M.2 2280 SSD slots, each expandable up to 2TB, effortlessly accommodating a high-capacity system drive and an ultra-fast cache drive. This achieves a perfect balance of speed, capacity, and flexibility, effortlessly handling large projects and high-speed workflows. 4K UHD Triple Display KAMRUI 14900HX Mini PC features a 4K@60Hz UHD graphics card (Intel UHD Graphics), supporting 4K@60Hz high-definition video playback for a premium visual experience. Mini Gaming PC incorporates an HDMI 2.0 port + DP 1.4 port + USB3.2 Gen2 Type-C port, supporting 4K triple display output. Mini PC can connect to three monitors to fulfil your multi-screen collaboration requirements. Ultra-high-definition visuals and ultra-fast connectivity significantly enhance your productivity. RJ45 LAN Port+WiFi6E+BT5.2 KAMRUI Mini PC features a 1.0Gbps LAN port, suitable for high-speed broadband environments in homes, offices, and large enterprises. Bluetooth 5.2 enables connection to peripherals such as headphones, mice, and keyboards. Dual-band WiFi 6E and BT 5.2 deliver enhanced interference resistance and more stable wireless signals. Regardless of your network environment's complexity, the KAMRUI H2 mini computer delivers a relatively stable and smooth network experience. Professional-Grade Cooling System KAMRUI Mini gaming PC features an upgraded silent centrifugal fan, dual copper heat pipes, and a dual-fin module. Its all-copper structure enhances thermal conductivity, boosting airflow efficiency by 35% and overall heat dissipation by 40%, ensuring the CPU can stably deliver up to 55W performance under full load. Upgraded aluminum heatsink keeps the SSD cool to maintain read/write speeds, ensuring desktop-level stability and power for demanding workloads. Compact Size, Infinite Possibilities KAMRUI H2 mini computers measure just 5.04 x 5.04 x 1.63 inches, a fraction of the size of a traditional desktop, yet deliver powerful performance for demanding workloads. With the included VESA mount, you can easily attach a small pc behind a monitor or place it in your TV cabinet, turning your display into a sleek mini PC while saving valuable desk space. Versatile Connectivity This KAMRUI mini gaming computer comes with 1*USB3.2 Gen2 Type-C(up to 10Gbps data transfer), 1*RJ45 Ethernet, 2*USB3.2 Gen2 (10Gbps), 4*USB3.2 Gen1 Type-A (5Gbps), 1*HDMI 2.0, 1*DC, 1*DP 1.4, and 1*3.5mm audio jack. It offers versatile connectivity to connect multiple devices effortlessly, reducing the need for frequent plugging and unplugging. Normally costing $799, but now down to $721.99, which includes an additional 5% off the Amazon listed price. That equals a total of 10% off the MSRP. KAMRUI Hyper H2 (Core i9 14900HX/32GB+1TB) for $ 721.99 (was $799) Use code AQ5Z6A47 for the above price during checkout (expires on June 30) KAMRUI claims that they offer lifetime technical support along with a 12-month warranty. For either of these mini PCs, should you encounter any issues during use, KAMRUI claims it will do its utmost to assist customers. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
    • Good. I hope more people sue them for focusing on this worthless junk.
    • How about fire the guy who approved all the bad decisions? The guy who bought these studios in the first place? Oh wait, Satya is safe with his billions while the workers pay the price.
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      516
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      200
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      110
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      89
    5. 5
      Nick H.
      71
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!