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1 hour ago, Circaflex said:

That is your opinion, and to be honest, you are grossly misinformed. Pre-built units are no longer the crap they used to be, there are companies that specialize in pre-built gaming rigs. Nothing wrong with a pre-built and to be honest, unless you really want to tinker, I think a pre-built is the better choice. Warranty support is so much easier, going to one company (the one that built it) compared to ripping it apart and testing each piece to see which one has gone bad, then dealing with that company.

You have any preferences of late? Recommendations, et cetera?

4 minutes ago, needsata said:

You have any preferences of late? Recommendations, et cetera?

Everyone's time has a different value, but here is my input. If I were building a rig specifically for gaming, I'd go pre-built at this point. I've custom built computers for close to 20 years now, while I do agree you get more bang for buck, the time I have spent troubleshooting just isn't worth it anymore. When I was in high-school and college, I had more spare time and enjoyed tinkering. Now that I work anywhere from 8 to 12 hours a day, on computers dealing with troubleshooting, it is the last thing I want to do when I get home. Pre-built rigs can potentially cost more than building your own rig, but to me the warranty is the deal breaker, you go directly to the OEM that built your machine. As I mentioned before, a custom rig would require you to troubleshoot and narrow down the exact piece, then deal with shipping that to said company. If you enjoy tinkering, have the time or are interested in building a bench-rig, I'd probably recommend a custom rig.

 

A few notable companies that specialize in gaming rigs:

Ibuypower

maingear

digitalstorm

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Just now, Circaflex said:

Everyone's time has a different value, but here is my input. If I were building a rig specifically for gaming, I'd go pre-built at this point. I've custom built computers for close to 20 years now, while I do agree you get more bang for buck, the time I have spent troubleshooting just isn't worth it anymore. When I was in high-school and college, I had more spare time and enjoyed tinkering. Now that I work anywhere from 8 to 12 hours a day, on computers dealing with troubleshooting, it is the last thing I want to do when I get home. Pre-built rigs can potentially cost more than building your own rig, but to me the warranty is the deal breaker, you go directly to the OEM that built your machine. As I mentioned before, a custom rig would require you to troubleshoot and narrow down the exact piece, then deal with shipping that to said company. If you enjoy tinkering, have the time or are interested in building a bench-rig, I'd probably recommend a custom rig.

Yes I am in agreement, work takes so much of my time and mental energy I can't stress that enough. Not to mention I currently have no adequate work-space at home to build a machine from the ground up. So as far as pre-built brands that are out there, what's your opinion? I have a former-contact that went with an under 1,000 dollar Ibuypower setup, plays everything at 1080p pretty flawlessly (everything being a figurative word here). I just keep hearing the naysayers and because I am so detached from the PC hardware world these days I hesitate.

1 minute ago, needsata said:

Yes I am in agreement, work takes so much of my time and mental energy I can't stress that enough. Not to mention I currently have no adequate work-space at home to build a machine from the ground up. So as far as pre-built brands that are out there, what's your opinion? I have a former-contact that went with an under 1,000 dollar Ibuypower setup, plays everything at 1080p pretty flawlessly (everything being a figurative word here). I just keep hearing the naysayers and because I am so detached from the PC hardware world these days I hesitate.

Ibuypower seems to be a good one, I have a friend who uses their units and loves it, another friend of mine has a cyberpowerpc and it is a nice unit.

Just now, Circaflex said:

Ibuypower seems to be a good one, I have a friend who uses their units and loves it, another friend of mine has a cyberpowerpc and it is a nice unit.

If it isn't to much of an imposition and you have the time/inclination, I really would appreciate your looking at maybe a couple of offerings on say Cyber and Ibuypower and just pointing me at some that you think look like good-deal/not a rip off, maybe meets some of my expectations I listed. Like two from each site comparably priced or something.

 

No worries if you don't feel like it, I will find something soon, I'm just getting as informed as I can get before I take the plunge.

10 hours ago, needsata said:

I've heard some negative reviews from on cyberpower, you have any experience with them? Quality?

 

Thanks

Yup!  I can't speak to anything recent, but about a decade ago I purchased from there.  It was a good experience from both a technical and customer service perspective.  That said, I will always build my own computers moving forward.  I've built my last 5 or so, plus my wife's and my families' computers.  You just get much more bang for your buck and get all the exact component you want.

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1 hour ago, T3X4S said:

OK, how about this

https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=1651791

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If you click on the link, it will put you @ default HW for that model.  I upgraded the SSD, PSU, RAM and it added $350.

But, they are highly regarded.

What about the video card at that price when looking at competitors? Ive seen some 1080 cards in a few 1700 dollar builds from ibuypower. Let me know what you think if you take a gander. I will take another look at digital storms offerings. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.65 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Western Digital - RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($269.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($41.89 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $964.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-18 20:05 EDT-0400

2 hours ago, Mockingbird said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.65 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Western Digital - RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($269.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($41.89 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $964.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-18 20:05 EDT-0400

I will review this one thanks! Do you know if it covers everthing, cooling, fans all cables, et cetera? Anything missing? How would you rank this build? 1080p 60 fps highest settings current games? Touch 4K, or out of reach?

40 minutes ago, needsata said:

What do you think about these?

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Yawn

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Water 3.0 Riing RGB 240 40.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($115.01 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Western Digital - RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  ($708.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($139.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Rosewill - Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1758.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-18 23:34 EDT-0400

1 hour ago, needsata said:

I will review this one thanks! Do you know if it covers everthing, cooling, fans all cables, et cetera? Anything missing? How would you rank this build? 1080p 60 fps highest settings current games? Touch 4K, or out of reach?

Yes, this has everything. It can play most of the games at 1080p, probably not at the highest settings. 4K is out-of-reach.

 

If you want to pay at 4K, take a look at my other build.

*BASE_PRICE: [+1515] 1658 final price

 

CARE1: Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]

CAS: Syber M ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0, & Side-Panel Window

CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-7700K 4.20GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake)

CS_FAN: Default case fans

FAN: CyberpowerPC Asetek 550LC 120mm Liquid Cooling CPU Cooler (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

FREEBIE_CU: Intel Summer Software Starter Pack - Corel Painter Essentials 5, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Dreadnought, MAGIX Fastcut 2.0, MAGIX Youcast, MAGIX Samplitude Music Studio 2016, Virtual DJ 8.1 & XSplit Gamecaster

HDD: 240GB WD Green SSD + 3TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Combo Drive)

IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

KEYBOARD: CyberpowerPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard [+6]

MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory (Performance Memory by Major Brands)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS TUF Z270 MARK 2 ATX w/ USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready]

MOUSE: CyberpowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse

NETWORK: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK Network Adapter 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express [+34]

OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)

POWERSUPPLY: 1,000 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+16]

PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]

RUSH: Standard processing time: ship within 5 to 10 Business Days

SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

VIDEO: GeForce® GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+117] (Single Card)

VIVE_HEADSET: None

WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY

_PRICE: (+1658)

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3 hours ago, Mockingbird said:

Yawn

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Water 3.0 Riing RGB 240 40.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($115.01 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Western Digital - RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  ($708.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($139.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Rosewill - Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1758.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-18 23:34 EDT-0400

Did all these prices actually include shipping and taxes? Or were any unavailable? Otherwise nice list.

8 hours ago, Mockingbird said:

That includes shipping, but not taxes.

Okay thanks.

 

So I've got your 1,000 dollar option and your roughly 2k option.

 

Can I task you with something?

 

Go to cyberpower and do your best to build what, in your opinion, is the best option for roughly 1600.

 

Post it back here, be sure to grab any of the so-called "free upgrades" for this and that if you do.

 

No worries if you don't feel up for it!

 

Thanks for all your posts.

 

 

2 hours ago, needsata said:

Okay thanks.

 

So I've got your 1,000 dollar option and your roughly 2k option.

 

Can I task you with something?

 

Go to cyberpower and do your best to build what, in your opinion, is the best option for roughly 1600.

 

Post it back here, be sure to grab any of the so-called "free upgrades" for this and that if you do.

 

No worries if you don't feel up for it!

 

Thanks for all your posts.

 

 

Well, I am not going to do that because I don't believe in buying a pre-build for such an expensive PC, but I will show you what you can build for $1600

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Western Digital - RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  ($708.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.90 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1598.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-19 14:06 EDT-0400

1 hour ago, Mockingbird said:

Well, I am not going to do that because I don't believe in buying a pre-build for such an expensive PC, but I will show you what you can build for $1600

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Western Digital - RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  ($708.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.90 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1598.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-19 14:06 EDT-0400

Thanks, I like this build you have put together. I am really considering this one. I loathe the idea of dealing with four different   Merchants, ten different warranties and return policies and whatever unaccounted for costs. But i will be making a decision soon.

 

O.

1 hour ago, needsata said:

Thanks, I like this build you have put together. I am really considering this one. I loathe the idea of dealing with four different   Merchants, ten different warranties and return policies and whatever unaccounted for costs. But i will be making a decision soon.

 

O.

Was that sarcasm?

2 hours ago, needsata said:

Thanks, I like this build you have put together. I am really considering this one. I loathe the idea of dealing with four different   Merchants, ten different warranties and return policies and whatever unaccounted for costs. But i will be making a decision soon.

 

O.

Most of the components come with three years warranty.

 

Power supply has five years warranty.

 

Memory has lifetime warranty.

 

With a pre-build, you only get one year warranty.

1 hour ago, Mockingbird said:

Most of the components come with three years warranty.

 

Power supply has five years warranty.

 

Memory has lifetime warranty.

 

With a pre-build, you only get one year warranty.

Or maybe 2 years in some businesses, but, yeah, that's about it for prebuilds.

4 hours ago, Mindovermaster said:

Was that sarcasm?

No, where were you pickinlg up the sarcasm?

 

I definitely like the build, going with another one I will post soon.

 

But i don't know who WOULD like dealing with mutliple merchants if avoidable.

16 minutes ago, needsata said:

No, where were you pickinlg up the sarcasm?

 

I definitely like the build, going with another one I will post soon.

 

But i don't know who WOULD like dealing with mutliple merchants if avoidable.

I'd go with better warranty, even if it is different companies.

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I added a couple of MP44Q M.2 PCIe 4.0 SSDs (2 x 4TB) that can be availed on Amazon for $478.99 (the lowest price for 3 months) that TEAMGROUP supplied us with Then we have the almost completed build, you just need to push the card into the PCIe slot. Unfortunately, IceWhale Technologies did not provide a screw for the PCIe card frame (this is also apparent in their own video). Here it is at several different angles, with the last pic showing the SATA Y-Cable connected to the two WD Red Plus 4TB drives. Setup and Usage Next, you connect your cables to the I/O, and the ZimaBoard 2 powers on automatically, as there is no power button on the device. Power is controlled through the Settings in ZimaOS. BIOS The ZimaBoard 2 includes an Aptio BIOS from American Megatrends [1, 2, 3], and you can setup pretty much everything here including the boot order, which is locked to the UEFI OS, however above that choice you can enable or disable booting to a SATA/USB bootloader so this would still allow you to switch to an alternative bootloader and boot from it, or disable it to instead always start from the first disk with an OS installed on it. Initial Setup Upon connecting to the LAN and booting up, the ZimaBoard 2 can be reached by navigating to the IP address (shown if you have a monitor connected), or you can find it using the ZIMA Client desktop application, which is essentially a Zima device finder. Initializing the ZimaBoard 2 The ZimaOS setup process is pretty straightforward, through a wizard, and in full above, it basically consists of setting up an account and some handy tips, and that's that! Post Setup (ZimaOS update) Upon first boot, you are alerted that there is a ZimaOS update from 1.5.0 to 1.6.1, which I applied; the full process is shown above with the changelog. ZimaBoard 2 Storage Setup Next, it is time to set up the storage. ZimaOS actually throws everything onto the eMMC flash drive; it is also the default location of AppData, which is definitely something to be wary about, as the 45GB available storage could fill up quickly. HDDs I first attempted to create a Storage Pool using the two 4TB WD Red Plus NAS drives, and got an error message: After several attempts and then looking online, I discovered it was a bug with ZimaOS where the fix was simply to reboot ZimaOS and then try again, this time I was able to create a RAID mirror using the two drives. SSDs I did the same for the SSDs, as you will see in the above gallery, when I created the second Storage Pool, it only allowed me to select available drives. ZimaBoard 2 AppData ZimaOS comes with an App Store that includes a repository of almost 400 apps, so you will be able to find most of what you'll need for a NAS (although after a quick search, I wasn't able to find a Surveillance Manager), and now comes the important part: moving the default AppData location off the 45GB eMMC and onto a larger volume: Open Settings Then Apps Then, in the Select a new location field, click on the new Storage volume you want to move it to (in my case, the Apps Storage Pool), which is the SSD RAID mirror. Confirm the Migration warning Be praised! You can also do this for Docker (which by default installs onto the 45GB eMMC flash drive) and the User database. Plex Setup Next, I tested the configuration by installing the Plex Server app from the App Store. The library folders must already exist (which I placed into the Storage Pool). Plex Server setup is straightforward and requires very little configuration. In my case, all I had to do was add the media path I just created, which you can also browse to using the folder icon in the path field. In addition, you can now map the new Media library in Windows Explorer using the Zima Client. Oddly enough, it is not possible to access the ZimaBoard 2 over the Network Neighborhood; you must map drives using the client, which is shown in the last image in the above gallery. I watched one of my Blu-Ray rips, which is Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos, and the content played fine with no stuttering or buffering, which is what anyone needs in this scenario. ZimaBoard 2 Zima Client mobile app There's also a client for mobile. It is pretty barebones, as shown in the above gallery, for example, the Apps screen launches the WebUI for that app, and the Backup must be done manually. On opening Backup, you can select internal storage folders on your phone to backup to the ZimaBoard 2's storage, and although this is constantly scanned, the backup action itself must be manually triggered. There is an option to allow foreground backup (last image in the above gallery), but this basically means the queued backup gets triggered when you manually open the app. Benchmarking SATA PCIe 3.0 X4 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 2.5 GbE was well within acceptable ranges. Writes were generally better on the SSD RAID mirror. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 2.5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 2.5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. Thermals Top PCIe card SATA HDDs Next, I measured some hotspots while playing content on Plex. It's fair to say this will perform better than a NAS that is enclosed in a metal or plastic case, as almost everything storage-wise is exposed! Anyway, the ZimaBoard 2 did not break a sweat with Plex streaming or disk benchmarks. ZimaOS Factory Reset ZimaOS does not include a factory reset option. Instead, you have to download the ZimaOS image and flash it to the eMMC manually. The flashing process is shown in the above gallery. The steps to do so are listed below: Download the ZimaOS image here; Open BalenaEtcher (Run as Administrator) and select the image; Select your inserted USB drive (min 8 GB) Flash to it; Connect your USB drive, monitor, keyboard, USB hub (optional), mouse (optional), and network cable (recommended) to the ZimaBoard 2; Connect power and press F11 continuously; Select your USB drive starting with UEFI in the boot device menu; Press Enter on the Install ZimaOS option; Select /dev/mmcblk0 (MMC) flash drive as target; Confirm with (three times) to wipe the target disk; Wait a couple of minutes while ZimaOS installs; Remove the USB drive and confirm with a reboot; Your ZimaBoard 2 has been factory reset. However, you don't have to stick with ZimaOS, in fact the company also offers official CasaOS images, that are based on Debian; or as they say themselves, put anything you want on this "hackable single board server" it's up to you. Conclusion I had a lot of fun putting this together. I've custom-built all my own PCs and servers since the 90s, and this is the first time I have had to put a NAS together. Even if the actual base ZimaBoard 2 was already a completed build, it still feels pretty custom. I just wish that IceWhale Technology included a getting-started guide in the box for the Start Kit, which would have really completed this kit. Instead, I had to search for the official video on the YouTube channel to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. So who is this for? Definitely the hobbyist who is comfortable building their own PC and servers. It also has a much smaller footprint than its nearest equivalent (in terms of specs), like the Beelink Me Pro, which is another NAS I will be testing soon. Although the Beelink does not come with the PCIe 3.0 X4 expansion, the ZimaBoard 2 Starter Kit suddenly looks to be a great bargain, even if it only offers the two 3.5-inch bays over the four in the other example. It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N150 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the ZimaBoard 2 is intended for, media streaming and backup. It also looks like the IceWhale Technology staff are quite active in the official forums helping people with issues they come across with ZimaOS and the devices, peer support seems to be good as well, I was quickly able to find why I was not able to create a new Storage Pool in ZimaOS v1.6.1 even though that is quite a serious bug, hopefully it will be fixed in the next update. If you are comfortable with the command line and Docker, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. This was my first time with ZimaOS. It seems a bit barebones in comparison to the likes of Synology DSM, TOS, and UGOS, but it has a ton of apps to get you started with your home or small business NAS. Where to buy As of publishing, IceWhale Technology is running a discount of up to 5% for the Starter Kit. If you opt to get just the ZimaBoard 2 itself, it does come with a SATA Y-Cable, so you will be able to connect up to two 3.5-inch HDDs to it. ZimaBoard 2 1668 Starter Kit for $534.50 on Amazon US (was $548.60) ZimaBoard 2 832 Starter Kit for $372.88 on Amazon US (was $390.60) Zimaboard 2 1668 (16GB+64GB) for $419.90 on Amazon US Zimaboard 2 832 (8GB+32GB) for $359.90 on Amazon Disclosure: IceWhale Technology provided a free sample without any editorial input or review pre-approval. Good to know The Amazon link is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. Check out Today's Deals on Amazon | or our recent tech deals. 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    • It's in the Insider's group so yes it's technically beta, though these days it's hard to see much of a difference unless you opt for the most extreme beta builds, which I don't. When I moved here from the Release Preview channel I did so primarily because I wanted to see how well the restored taskbar functionality (restored from Win10, and earlier) is working and whether it was time to finally abandon SAB--and it is--working fine, so far. Not as polished as SAB, but it'll do for me.
    • I've been using MWB Premium for a number of years so that along with Windows updates and updated browser should be fine. Thanks for that.
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