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59 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

I'd go with better warranty, even if it is different companies.

Is this story time right now?

 

I had a classmate who wanted a gaming PC.

 

He asked me if he should build one or he should buy a pre-build.

 

Against my advise, he bought a CyberPowerPC.

 

Three weeks later, the computer stopped working because the power supply blew up.

 

CyberPowerPC told him to sent it the power supply (at his own expense). So, he did.

 

He asked CyberPowerPC if he can get a better power supply. It told him no and set him back an identical power supply.

 

He put in a the new power supply and the computer won't turn on. That's when he asked me to look at it.

 

The first thing that I've noticed is that the power supply is some garbage called XTremeGear.

 

So, I put in a SeaSonic 750W 80+ GOLD power supply and the computer still wouldn't turn on.

 

At some point, I found out that the motherboard and the video card are dead.

 

CyberPowerPC told him that he needs to ship the entire PC so it can be determine what the "real" problem is.

 

He ended up returning the entire PC and had to pay a 15% restocking fee + a shipping cost + $150 for the OS.

 

He eventually filed a dispute with his bank and eventually got the 15% restocking fee + cost of OS back, but it was a nasty fight.

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4 minutes ago, Mockingbird said:

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THAT is why you never go with premade. MOST (not all), use the cheapest ***** alive, and call it a computer.

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15 minutes ago, Mockingbird said:

Is this story time right now?

 

I had a classmate who wanted a gaming PC.

 

He asked me if he should build one or he should buy a pre-build.

 

Against my advise, he bought a CyberPowerPC.

 

Three weeks later, the computer stopped working because the power supply blew up.

 

CyberPowerPC told him to sent it the power supply (at his own expense). So, he did.

 

He asked CyberPowerPC if he can get a better power supply. It told him no and set him back an identical power supply.

 

He put in a the new power supply and the computer won't turn on. That's when he asked me to look at it.

 

The first thing that I've noticed is that the power supply is some garbage called XTremeGear.

 

So, I put in a SeaSonic 750W 80+ GOLD power supply and the computer still wouldn't turn on.

 

At some point, I found out that the motherboard and the video card are dead.

 

CyberPowerPC told him that he needs to ship the entire PC so it can be determine what the "real" problem is.

 

He ended up returning the entire PC and had to pay a 15% restocking fee + a shipping cost + $150 for the OS.

 

He eventually filed a dispute with his bank and eventually got the 15% restocking fee + cost of OS back, but it was a nasty fight.

 

9 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

THAT is why you never go with premade. MOST (not all), use the cheapest ***** alive, and call it a computer.

Exactly - 

This is just what I mentioned on the 1st or 2nd page - 

In my opinion, OP is worried too much about warranties.



 

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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v8cwsJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v8cwsJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($724.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.90 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1597.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-20 23:08 EDT-0400

Parts are on the way, thanks everyone for your help!

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3 hours ago, needsata said:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v8cwsJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v8cwsJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($724.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.90 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1597.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-20 23:08 EDT-0400

Parts are on the way, thanks everyone for your help!

That looks good to me!

 

It would be great if you would post photos after you're done building it.

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It's alive! It's aliiiiiiiive!

 

 

 

 

So, after one Hurricane, delaying delivery of the CPU and GPU the Friday before Harvey decided to visit.

 

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A partially crushed MOBO box on arrival (the actual manufacturer's box).

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Including a loose chunk of solder from I don't know where and some metal shavings...

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Two fried Sata cables after initial startup (smoke, sparks, the works).

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Annnnnd one dead HDD (likely tied to this electrical issue, possibly stemming from the MOBO sata port/s themselves??)...

 

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IT LIVES!!!

 

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On 8/21/2017 at 1:10 AM, Mockingbird said:

That looks good to me!

 

It would be great if you would post photos after you're done building it.

Harvey, my nickname for this CATEGORY 5 MONSTER PC BUILD both in power and the problems!, is COMPLETE (minus one HDD I need to send back and I am waiting on adapters for the aftermarket cooler for the CPU).

 

Will post nicer pictures of the setup once I get it all sorted out. Still just testing everything.

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1 hour ago, needsata said:

Harvey, my nickname for this CATEGORY 5 MONSTER PC BUILD both in power and the problems!, is COMPLETE (minus one HDD I need to send back and I am waiting on adapters for the aftermarket cooler for the CPU).

 

Will post nicer pictures of the setup once I get it all sorted out. Still just testing everything.

Are you sure that motherboard actually works?

 

The condition the box it is in makes me wonder.

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38 minutes ago, Mockingbird said:

Are you sure that motherboard actually works?

 

The condition the box it is in makes me wonder.

Yes, I am on the computer now, played some old games, gonna try a few newer demos today.

 

Computer is up and running, no issues.

 

But yes, there were many suspect indicators about this board to begin with APART from the damaged box. But oh well!

 

 

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25 minutes ago, needsata said:

Yes, I am on the computer now, played some old games, gonna try a few newer demos today.

 

Computer is up and running, no issues.

 

But yes, there were many suspect indicators about this board to begin with APART from the damaged box. But oh well!

 

 

Since the AM4 bracket for your Noctua cooler hasn't arrived yet, what cooler are you using right now?

 

Wraith Spire?

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Mando

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On 8/18/2017 at 8:25 PM, Mindovermaster said:

Can I tell you something? A pre-built is gunna be crap. Take it, or leave it...

thats a bit generalist.

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom/gaming#anc

https://www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=PRODCATEGORYVIEWPAGE&USG=APPLICATION&ENT=APPLICATION&KEY=1285768

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-systems/gaming-pc

 

for example.

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