is it possible to completely block your IP?

[HellBender]

  noonespecial777 said:

yes there is a way to block your I.p. surprised all the supposed know it alls didnt mention it . program called stegoano it works wonderful blocks the i.p and supplys one at random could be from africa somewhere. I tested it in 16 websites that try and get your i.p. etc the test concluded the I.p. was what the program provided and NO there is no way around . this includes riaa goverment etc. www.steganos.com

lol. How funny... He has a supposed Network+ certification, and yet he doesn't realize that Steganos is a proxy.

Everyone in this thread is arguing that there is no way to do it without a proxy--he agrees.

Have a nice day.

[noonespecial777]

never said anything about proxies, I stated I.p. can be blocked he argued there is no way to. period your statement has no merit.

[notchbak]

lol.. this is getting good..

[KC]

  noonespecial777 said:

Btw since all these wonderful folks are watching this you send me to a website where you think my i.p. etc or info will be displayed since i cant block my i.p. and I will show you that you cannot and will not get any infomation on my computer, no I.p., no mac address, no computer name, no browser info, no o/s info. nothing and the I.p. will be in africa somewhere then if Im wrong as you say then ill admit fully in text on neowin, but now if your wrong well :) then that shows you dont mean much. Im 100% sure you'll get nothing. But I have a feeling you wont agree so it's no matter. Love you guys who sit behind a computer and think you know more then a person with a degree and network , cisco, mcse etc just amazing you are.

I love people who blow tons of cash to go take a 2 day boot camp course to study on how to pass the exam rather then how to do the job. Having a Cert really doesn't prove ****. So your ISP is it Teir 1,2 or 3?

[noonespecial777]

simple go here and see for yourself www.bright.net. Im not gonna sit here and answer stupid first year networking questions.. btw tier 1, also I have tier 4 in my other company.

[notchbak]

2 or 3 .. he probably leases

{edit} oops i guessed wrong

[noonespecial777]

and I dont think cisco headquarters (which is the only place test can be taken) would frown on a 2 day bootcamp. Since you have to build an entire network with servers, hubs, routers etc. Then to make it intresting, they come in after hours and tear it all down> so when you come back in the morning its in pieces. lovely huh. and 85% fail first time they take it . lovely 3 day stressful test. then when and if you pass by the time you get to the first floor they offer you a job great thing to have. but then according to some im a high school kid. lol takes all kinds. :)

[noonespecial777]

Nope no leasing 8 servers t-3 lines still waiitng on flishfun to messgae me so i can host the autopatcher so neowin isnt so slow

[clonk]

nononespecial777 - the software you were talking about does indeed use proxy servers to achieve the means you mentioned. Here is a review which states this http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,111309,00.asp A proxy can hide your IP from places you visit on the internet - sure they can have no idea who you are and assume they are dealing with the address the proxy server is at, but for the traffic to return to you someone has to know your real IP address, otherwise how can your traffic get back to you? Please by all means fill us in.

[KC]

  noonespecial777 said:

simple go here and see for yourself www.bright.net. Im not gonna sit here and answer stupid first year networking questions.. btw tier 1, also I have? tier 4? in my other company.

So bright.net is your company...right? Well then I guess I must be confused by following the link on the front page of the page you provided I find a company called Com Net,Inc and then I found something neathere to quote it.

  Quote

Com Net also offers a trademarked bright.net reseller program that provides its local Internet Service Provider (ISP) partners with high-quality, cost-effective Internet operating services, which have grown to include a Network Operations Center, a Technical Support Center, and an Internet Protocol (IP) regional broadband network

So do you own ComNet or do you on www.bright.net???

Your leasing servers and T3 lines..........You sir are not a Tier 1 ISP.

Also there two places in the USA that you can take the CCIE test, 10 world wide.

The proxy(ies) would know your IP to return the traffic back to you

Edited January 26, 2004 by kxgard3

[notchbak]

  JadeWolf324 said:

from like www.whatismyip.com?

so that it gives out a fake one?

i think the question has been answered here .. and the simplistic nature of the question .. answer seems a "yes"

however.. it seems to have been taken to another level now... lol

[morganpugh84]

This thread rocks! :punk:

noonespecial777 you are a funny guy :yes:

Saying you have all these certifications yet not even knowing how a network works :pinch:

That software you mentioned is just like any other anon service out there. They run a proxy server and the software you install makes sure every bit of network traffic goes to there proxy and is stripped of your IP/MAC address then they add a UID to it so that they know that it is for you (but only they know) and forward it on, then when they get a reply they basically reserve what they just did and send it back to you.

This is NOT hiding your IP, it is using a proxy. Infact 99% of the time these programs only work for HTTP/S connections so if you were to start a DCC with somebody on IRC they would get your IP address instantly, they would kinda need to have it to initalise the DCC in the first place ;)

Basically you CAN hide your IP for checking on websites, etc yet a direct connection will ALWAYS give away your real IP address. If your computer is directly connected to another computer then all of your details are in the headers of each packet sent, if these are changed then you are using a proxy connection.

In answer to the original posters question yes you can block/hide/change/"spoof" your IP for websites that report what you IP address is, after all they just check there connection logs and if you are using a proxy it will report the proxy address not yours, I used to have this problem with grc.com a few years ago (back when it was "cool" heh). Infact that is why Steve write the IP program (in 100% Intel32 ASM!!! heh :p). However it is impossible to block/hide/change/"spoof" your IP in a direct connection. For more information read about TCP/IP, etc there are lots of good tutorials that break up all the layers in a packet header, etc. Very intersting :yes:

Personal Note to noonespecial777: What was the point of arguing? You are very new to Neowin yet you start fights with people almost straight away. Perhaps you are certified and run an ISP or whatever but who cares?! I don't and 99% of the people here won't. Who or what you are isn't important. You could be a millionaire but that doesn't mean a thing online. I had no opinion of you before this thread but now, and probably for a very long time now, I will think you are an idiot and I am pretty sure eveyone else does aswell. Don't shout your mouth off, it isn't clever or funny and people don't get scared on the internet like they do in the real world. Remember they can hide behind there aonymous proxies :p ;) :rofl: :pinch: :whistle:

Edited January 26, 2004 by deadmonkey

[noonespecial777]

I dont shoot nothing off you guys on here think you know more then anyone else. Im not the only one who thinks this they just dont have the balls to express it. i do often .and Im not new, been banned many times for usually questioning a mod on something. Im blunt to the point. Most dont like it I could care less I didnt get where I am in business being quiet. All this started over 1 STATEMENT i MADE which is your i.p. can be blocked from others. Did not say how, why etc then someone comes out and says THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY TO HIDE YOUR I.P. i DISAGREED. So as far as what people on NEOWIN think I could care less i come here for the great tech news, and once in a while I post in the forums. Other then that In my view Unless your someone who has as much education and can talk networking thats great otherwise My statement is right no matter how it's accomplished. and lastly I own all the servers, backbones, hardware etc bright.net is one of our companies which I own as well among others> I do lease to other isp's. I was not trying to scare anyone just remember never know someone's backround is and where they have been dont assume all posts are from 18 year olds, all of us are not. Other then that I'll continue to post every now and then some agree sme disagree important thing is dont assume soomeone doesnt know something. I know Alot more then you think. but im done beating this dead horse the person asked the question hoped you found what you wanted.

[KC]

Thats cool but I still think your full of it. Anyways I will now slip back in to my command center atop Mount Boara where I control a fleet of Starships on there way to Nebula 100. Amazing I could do that when I am 21, unemployed, and a 2year old and a wife to support.

And just to beat the horse one more time the reason I don't believe you is this

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Com Net, Incorporated (Com Net) was formed in September 1993 through the collaborative efforts of nineteen (19) Independent Local Exchange Companies (ILECs) across Ohio. Initially, Com Net built a Signaling System 7 (SS7) Advanced Intelligent Network (AIN) in Northwest Ohio, enabling the member ILECs to offer calling features to their customers. Today, Com Net continues this tradition of providing member ILECs with telecommunication services that they cannot justify pursuing individually.

In 1995, Com Net introduced Internet services with the launch of its bright.net local Internet Service Provider (ISP) partner program. The member ILECs combined their efforts again to establish a statewide dial-up access network. Since then, the trademarked bright.net brand has grown to serve over 90,000 residential users and to provide multiple businesses with dedicated Internet access in Ohio.

Com Net's ownership has expanded to twenty-one (21) ILECs and one (1) Electrical Cooperative. Com Net has invested in and operates two (2) independent companies that expand its telecommunications services to include long distance and Competitive Local Exchange Carrier (CLEC) businesses. In addition, Com Net is in the process of building one of the nation's first fiber optic networks that reaches extensively into rural Ohio.

The Com Net team is excited about the future of the telecommunications industry and looks forward to bringing user-friendly, cost-effective telecommunications technologies to all residents of North America regardless of whether they are in an urban or rural settings

ComNet owns Bright.net ComNet is owned by ILEC's (Incumbent Local exchange carrier) and CLEC's (competitve local exchange Carriers)

According to this website ILEC stands for Independent local exchange carrier, I have never once heard it refered to like that. An ILEC is the same thing as a RBOC. Qwest, Bellsouth, SBC and Verizon....There is only four.

Edited January 26, 2004 by kxgard3

[notchbak]

I may be the only one.. but i could see where noonespecial777 was goin with this right from the start.. many people IMO made assumptions about what they 'thought he meant' instead of just taking his statement literally and applying it to the posters extremely BASIC question.

and i agree with him totally on people making assumptions alot here about others being 'kids shooting off at the mouth.' you know what they say about making those. lol

oh well fun while it lasted..

[noonespecial777]

Hey it's cool cant say I dont keep it lntresting :) btw better watch that notch agreeing with me you get blacklisted like I do almost monthly :)

[morganpugh84]

noonespecial777: Sorry but I just find it hard to believe that someone with your attitude (which is vey immature and childish as well as angry and argumentative) could "own all the servers, backbones, hardware etc". I could be wrong, maybe you do own everything it just doesn't seem very realistic.

Anyway I am pretty sure a mod will lock this soon as this thread will just keep on going if they don't. Case closed. See you around.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Hmmm, you can hide your IP from a website/server but only by proxy, which means that the proxy server does the forwarding from the fake IP to the real one, so it still has your real one.

So what's the deal with noonespecial777? I mean, if you are all that you say you are (and who am I to question it), I would have assumed simple grammar, and overcoming the need to make silly threats were things you should have already mastered. Also, there are about 10/12 places you can get your Cisco certification worldwide.

[Frank]

  noonespecial777 said:

yes there is a way to block your I.p. surprised all the  supposed know it alls didnt mention it . program called  stegoano it works wonderful blocks the i.p and  supplys one at random could be from africa somewhere. I tested it in 16 websites that try and get your i.p. etc  the test concluded the I.p. was what the program provided and NO there is no way around . this includes riaa goverment etc.    www.steganos.com

Like has been said, "www.steganos.com" is an anonymous proxy server, and that answer was mentioned in the first reply.

[Qumahlin]

  noonespecial777 said:

and  I dont think cisco headquarters  (which is the only place test can be taken) would frown on a 2 day bootcamp. Since you have to build an entire network with servers, hubs, routers etc. Then to make it intresting, they come in after hours and tear it all down> so when you come back in the morning its in pieces. lovely huh. and 85% fail first time they take it . lovely 3 day stressful test. then when and if you pass by the time you get to the first floor  they offer you a job  great thing to have. but then according to some im a high school kid. lol takes all kinds. :)

Um..LOL Network+ exams are not taken at Cisco headquarters....in fact Network+ is not even a Cisco exam. It is CompTIA

If your gonna lie about certifications I recommend not lying to a board where tech people frequent.

The only test that is taken at Cisco headquarters (and one other location forget where) where a network must be built and maintained is the CCIE.

You obviously do not have a CCIE judging by the fact that you are actually arguing that Steganos is not a proxy and makes you invisible. Steganos is nothing more then a proxy that has lists of open relays. The open relays still get your IP address...And it only works for websites. It would not work for a direct TCP/IP session.

I also find it extremely funny how you go from bragging about your Network+ (which any idiot with networking experience can pass...much like the A+) and suddenly you have a MCSE and a CCIE? Interesting.

Also if you were a Tier 1 ISP you would have a bit more then 8 servers and a cpl T3's.

Edited January 26, 2004 by Qumahlin

[John Veteran]

noonespecial777: with the amount of bull**** you spew on this site, it's amazing you physically survived 5th grade. with your kind of mouth, almost everyone would want you far away from them. why not just stop now and take whatever dignity you have left to some other website. i suggest you don't lie to them as much as you do to us (Y)

[noonespecial777]

lmao you idiots are amazing. if you knew how dumb you were, you trade yourself in for pet monkeys. think as you wish. I dont care, not does it effect me or my business. have a miserable day now Ill keep whistling and hope your stupidity doesnt rub off on your children or the rest of the world. :)

[HellBender]

omgorsh, noonespecial777, stop making fun of me! You're going to make me cry! :laugh:

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[BxBoy]

lol, you guys are hilarious!

[Hans_Gruber]

  noonespecial777 said:

LOOK DONT TRY EXPLAIN ABOUT i.P.S OK YOUR CLUELESS i WAS PLAYING WITH THESE BEFORE YOU WERE BORN AND iM NETWORK + CERT AND i OWN AN ISP SO GO AWAY i QUOTED THE SOFTWARE TO USE, USE IT READ ABOUT IT, other then that I think your clueless.

Do I smell bullsh*t? :rofl: