Microsoft Kernel Patch CPU Before and After Benchmarks Thread


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The performance drop does not look as bad as I have feared but it seems that the Windows patch is only a part of the equation as Intel started releasing Firmware upgrades. It would be interesting what is the penalty of the patch if any, in conjunction with the new Firmware.

HP has just pushed BIOS update.

 

TITLE: HP NoteBook System BIOS Update
VERSION: 01.12 REV: A PASS: 1

 

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  On 05/01/2018 at 01:04, jamester64 said:

Strange that AsusFanControlService is still running in the background so at least I got that :-) I just cant get the GUI to open :-(

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yep same here.  suspect its the bios side of things in AISuite. if you try to rerun it, UAC prompt pops up but it never opens its ui, but you can see it in task mgr.

Benchmark Comparison Between:
After OS Patched, Before BIOS Patched
&
After OS Patched, After BIOS Patched

 

 

Computer:  HP HP EliteBook x360 1030 G2
Processor: Intel Core i7-7600U (GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 9)

 

PassMark PerformanceTest (CPU)
==============================
Before: 6054, 6106, 6033 (Average: 6064)
After : 6166, 5957, 5738 (Average: 5954)
Result: -1.81%

 

Geekbench 4 (CPU)
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Before (Single-Core): 4715, 4701, 4707 (Average: 4708)
After  (Single-Core): 4629, 4657, 4667 (Average: 4651)
Result: -1.21%

 

Before (Multi-Core): 9254, 9301, 9294 (Average: 9283)
After  (Multi-Core): 9111, 9142, 9165 (Average: 9139)
Result: -1.55%

 

Score link for before BIOS patched:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/6136429
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/6136510
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/6136562

 

Score link for after BIOS patched:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/6137171
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/6137243
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/6137313

 

CPU-Z
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Before (Single-Core): 407.4, 414.7, 414.3 (Average: 412.1)
After  (Single-Core): 269.2, 253.2, 248.2 (Average: 256.9)
Result: -37.66%

 

Before (Multi-Core): 1164.0, 1169.4, 1171.8 (Average: 1168.4)
After  (Multi-Core): 1140.7, 1144.2, 1138.2 (Average: 1141.0)
Result: -2.35%

 

  On 04/01/2018 at 18:58, Elliot B. said:

So, no difference.

 

The whole thing was overblown.

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Not really, on newer CPUs the difference is nominal, on older models, especially those with less cores (dual core) or no hyperthreading, it'll be a lot more damaging to performance.

  On 04/01/2018 at 18:28, Mando said:

Great idea Warwagon:)

 

here is the start of mine 

 

Benchtools used on sig rig @1080p

 

  • Cinebench 4D
  • 3D Mark (Timespy Extreme)
  • Novabench
  • Rog RealBench
  • Passmark

Before Patch 

 

Passmark CPU test BEFORE

image.thumb.png.2a0caaf441a5705f451f4729244e8af9.png

 

Passmark CPU AFTER

image.thumb.png.22faf2114646503b195c9f2f77df1aae.png

 

Cinebench 4D BEFORE

  • CPU Benchmark = 966CB
  • OpenGL Bench = 140 FPS

AFTER

  • CPU Benchmark = 975CB ???
  • OpenGl Bench = 149.95 FPS ???
     

3D Mark timespy extreme BEFORE

  • 3998

AFTER

  • 3997 ????

Novabench 

  • 2713

After

  • 2703
     

RealBench BEFORE

  • Image Editing 212,486/ Time 25.0745
  • Encoding 93,501/time 56.9829
  • OpenCL 113,529/ Ksamples per sec 20877
  • Heavy Multitasking 110,647
  • Time 68.9761
  • System Score 132,540

RealBench AFTER

  • Image Editing 208.830/Time 25.5135
  • Encoding 92,841/time 57.3881
  • OpenCL 113,529/ Ksamples/sec 20922
  • Heavy Multitasking 103,867/Time 73.4779
  • System Score 129,766

 

Overall slightly slower with some benches, Cinema 4D benches.....anyones guess! :p

 

before and after had all the same processes running and apps, what i have noticed however, Asus AI Suite 3 wont run :p

 

btw Webroot Secure anywhere working no problem at all post patch,

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Cinema 4D doesn't give a crap about kernel patches apparently. Thanks for the laugh lol

  On 05/01/2018 at 16:50, satukoro said:

Cinema 4D doesn't give a crap about kernel patches apparently. Thanks for the laugh lol

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lol so it seems, but tbh outside of work, i dont give a crap about kernel patches either :p lol 

  On 05/01/2018 at 21:05, Mockingbird said:

Realbench 2.56

 

Core i7-8700K

 

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Looks really bad when both BIOS and Windows patch work together. Gonna hold off the updates for now and see if any consequent update will fix the performance.

  On 06/01/2018 at 02:58, adrynalyne said:

What motherboard?

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ASUS PRIME Z370-A

 

It doesn't have to do with that specific motherboard though.

 

It's the microcode update from Intel (in the BIOS) that's causing additional performance drop.

  On 06/01/2018 at 04:55, Mockingbird said:

ASUS PRIME Z370-A

 

It doesn't have to do with that specific motherboard though.

 

It's the microcode update from Intel (in the BIOS) that's causing additional performance drop.

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Duh. Thats not why I was asking. I was curious who had released an update so soon.

 

How do you know this isn't the Intel ME microcode update? It doesn't specify and getting the BIOS out the same day as Intel released the update to OEMs sounds kinda crazy. You'd think at least it would be a beta BIOS.

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  On 06/01/2018 at 05:00, nekrosoft13 said:

Threadripper here i come, FU intel

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And then they patch Spectre and you wish you hadn’t switched ;) There are also rumors of more CPU vulnerabilites out there too. Might want to wait and see how this all plays out. 

  On 06/01/2018 at 05:02, adrynalyne said:

And then they patch Spectre and you wish you hadn’t switched ;) There are also rumors of more CPU vulnerabilites out there too. Might want to wait and see how this all plays out. 

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1% or 2% hit per patch. Now that's a scary thought. 

  On 06/01/2018 at 05:14, LimeMaster said:

1% or 2% hit per patch. Now that's a scary thought. 

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Maybe, or we could instead see optimization.

 

I am tempted to switch to AMD, but I am watching first. I don't want to walk into a new mess and be out of pocket for it.

  On 06/01/2018 at 05:02, adrynalyne said:

And then they patch Spectre and you wish you hadn’t switched ;) There are also rumors of more CPU vulnerabilites out there too. Might want to wait and see how this all plays out. 

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Threadripper is already faster in type of task that I care about, and now intel is 12-20% slower than before, so benefit of running Intel is less and less.

  On 06/01/2018 at 05:18, nekrosoft13 said:

Threadripper is already faster in type of task that I care about, and now intel is 12-20% slower than before, so benefit of running Intel is less and less.

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*shrug* Its your money. I am just saying that we don't know how much a hit Spectre will be.

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  On 06/01/2018 at 05:16, adrynalyne said:

Maybe, or we could instead see optimization.

 

I am tempted to switch to AMD, but I am watching first. I don't want to walk into a new mess and be out of pocket for it.

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Honestly, I would have preferred if they had went with optimization first. I get that security is important, but so is usability & performance.  Especially when you consider the fact that most people don't have top of the line CPUs.

  On 06/01/2018 at 05:21, LimeMaster said:

Honestly, I would have preferred if they had went with optimization first. I get that security is important, but so is usability & performance.  Especially when you consider the fact that most people don't have top of the line CPUs.

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I've a feeling that maybe they would have, had a certain company not blabbed sooner than they expected.

  On 06/01/2018 at 05:23, adrynalyne said:

I've a feeling that maybe they would have, had a certain company not blabbed sooner than they expected.

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Yeah I suppose. They are kinda screwing themselves over a bit, since they have less time to create their own patch.

  On 06/01/2018 at 04:56, adrynalyne said:

Duh. Thats not why I was asking. I was curious who had released an update so soon.

 

How do you know this isn't the Intel ME microcode update? It doesn't specify and getting the BIOS out the same day as Intel released the update to OEMs sounds kinda crazy. You'd think at least it would be a beta BIOS.

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Disregard the question--I saw how they checked it.

Edit: Seems like there are conflicting reports.

 

  On 06/01/2018 at 05:27, LimeMaster said:

Yeah I suppose. They are kinda screwing themselves over a bit, since they have less time to create their own patch.

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True that.

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  On 06/01/2018 at 05:28, adrynalyne said:

Disregard the question--I saw how they checked it.

Edit: Seems like there are conflicting reports.

 

True that.

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dang, jjust checked for my 270 mobo no bios update yet :( (Strix H) 7700k

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