Backing up DVD / blu ray & CD collection?

[Technique]

Weirdly when i read what BudMan posts I feel like it should really turn me off but rather than do this it just interests me more. I feel wrong for wanting to know more about this and be able to do it 🤣

 

Right, about this Acronis thing that appears to have caused confusion....

    I really mentioned (waffled about) that just to illustrate that i'd used some sort of backup software in the past. I've used Macrium Reflect also but found the version of ATI easier to use for a novice like me. It was just to say i was semi-familiar with backing up although really still a noob.

    I was also talking about it because i was asking about backing up the library itself. Obviously that's running before i can even crawl but i was just asking. I know i rip my 200 DVDs to this thing i've learned is called a 'NAS drive' ... all in glorious 480p quality . So let's now say that task is complete and my DVD library is all sat there on a NAS drive good to go.

 

Sure would be a shame if that NAS drive failed after all the time i put in, wouldn't it ... and i'd have to start all over again?

 

And it's for that reason i was talking about backups, about ATI (or indeed any backup program). I was throwing ideas/thoughts around wildly. Imagining the scenario - i rip a new box set to my library (NAS drive). I wouldn't want to then manually select it and manually copy it over to the backup drive (the backup of the NAS/library), i'd want it done automatic (i THINK that'd be best policy? Maybe i'm wrong?) - so that when a movie is ripped to the library/NAS drive it's also then saved on this backup drive too, all automatic. I don't even know if that's possible. I'm guessing it is but then that's how my mind works - it throws ideas and questions around constantly. Always wondering.

 

 

Back on topic a bit more --- I was thinking about what was said earlier & whoever said it was right. Who watches the extras?

Well i do tbh, but generally only once. Once they're watched that's it. I can't think of a movie that i went back to watch the extras a second time.

 

So on that note, you just rip the movie off the disc (i wont say DVD or blu ray :p) and nothing else then, right?

I also wondered about scene selection and how that works when ripping to a NAS drive/adding to your library (someone help me with what term i should use here). If you're watching a 3 hour movie and want to pick up from 2 hours in you can just select a scene on a DVD, everything real quick. Would sure be irritating if you had to old-school fast forward 2 hours with your ripped file.

[+BudMan MVC]

12 hours ago, Technique said:

Sure would be a shame if that NAS drive failed after all the time i put in, wouldn't it ... and i'd have to start all over again?

Yeah I brought that up some time ago... But lets CRAWL like you said before we run... You might want to mitigate the chance of loss of your time and effort just with parity vs actual backup.. I mean really how often do you actually watch all your "media"... I have all episodes of X-Files in my library for example.. Have not watched one of them in years and years, not since they were put in the library to be honest... Telling you it becomes more of a hoarder thing vs use thing.. The VAST majority of video in your library is rarely used.. Music same way..  You saw the large collection of GD I have - how would I have time to listen to all of that even if I just listened to GD for 18 hours a day... It would take me years to cycle through it

 

So while it would "suck" if you lost your data.. Would it really be the end of the world.. You have to make the call to how much effort you also now want to put into backup - along with the cost of that.. That is why lets table that until you have some experience with the whole thing and have actually watched or listened to your first piece of media off your Media Server... And have ripped more than a handful of items before we get all tied up with backup or parity of the data, etc. etc..  To be honest - maybe a loss of media would be good, have learned a few things on ripping over the years the tools have gotten better.. I know for sure as I re added stuff to the library it would all be x265 vs 264, and when at all possible pull the subs and 5.1 or higher vs just stereo..

 

As to where you left off on a movie - when you go back to the movie it will be right there were you stopped it, no need to select scene or chapter to where you left off..

 

Example...

 

Here is old version of Papilion - one of my fav's  So rewatching it before check out the new 2018 version.. Also unlike optical media its super easy to go to any specific location.. See the drag button - like a youtube video lets say..  If I stop the movie and then come back later it will be at the top of the interface to continue watching..  If I want to market that watched so it drops off the main interface - can always come back to it and just jump to where I left off with fast forward or drag the button.  Or if you put chapters in your rip - then you can jump to specific chapter - which you can even label if you want when you rip   Vs just chapter 1, 2 - you could label them to specific "scenes" all comes down to how anal you want to get with the process

 

Have you never used netflix or any streaming service - its like that.. But your own media   You can even have different user profiles..

 

So when my son's watch something (btw they do not live here) One is in SD and other is a few miles down the road.. They have their own profiles so stuff they have watched gets marked watched... When they leave something in the middle and come back they can start exactly where they left off.  And we can all be watching the same thing at the same time at different parts of the show.. Or 3 different things, etc..

 

It really is like your own netflix

 

[Technique]

Budman - i don't know how anal you are about putting your collection in to some kind of order. Do you / can you group the movies off in to sub folders/categories rather than just one big folder of movies?

 

Right now i have my CD wallet sectioned off - so at the start will be stand up comedy in alphabetical order, then there's anime in alphabetical order. The few TV shows that i have and then since the vast majority of the rest of the DVDs are action of some degree they're just in alphabetical order after that.

[+BudMan MVC]

It puts them in to categories for you   You can add tags of any sort you want to add, you can create collections of any sort you want..  I have a collection of all my Bogart movies for example.. Same for Marlon Brando..

 

As to the actual storage of the files - yeah I put movies of same sort in subfolders of the movie library.. Aliens for example all in 1 folder..

 

Same goes for music - if I want rock, or pop or etc..

 

How is it you have not downloaded this and played with it yet?  

 

Here break down of Genre type of the movies that can list them by in the interface, etc

 

And again you can add any tags you want to a movie - or create your own "collections" and put whatever movies you want in there...

 

Here is sample of my bogart collection for example

 

if looking for a movie you can just search for an actor in it, or title or genre or producer even, etc.. etc.. It pulls all of this info for you from https://www.themoviedb.org/

 

Once you put in a movie, correctly named so can be found via the db.. Is going to pull all kinds of info for you about the movie.. You could view all the movies in your library done by the same studio, or have a specific actor in them, etc

 

Its not just a folder with some files in it - it really is like having your own netflix or pandora for your music, etc.  With full db that can be searched and pulls cover art and actor images, etc. etc.   Which you can click on and other movies they are in..

 

Why anyone would still be using disks is beyond me   Rip it and put it into your library.. Never have to touch the disk again.,

 

 

[Technique]

7 hours ago, BudMan said:

 

How is it you have not downloaded this and played with it yet?

 

Because i want to be able to give it the attention/focus/effort/time that will make it worthwhile.

 

I come home, 7pm at the earliest (and i'm up about 5:00-5:30am). I've dinner to make, next days things to prep, cleaning to do. I've a relative to help with an ongoing court case, i've another relative to help with an ongoing financial issue, i've another relative to help with their energy supplier who keeps gnikcid them about and is getting stressed that they're going to have their energy cut off. I've a wife to spend time with. I've a whole nightmare of financial accounts which i need to streamline (long boring story so don't worry) and somewhere in all that i've to find some time for relaxing/enjoyment/entertainment - this.

 

To which i know the response is yada yada we all have things we need to do in life and yes that's true - we do, but then i never volunteered this info, you asked which is the only reason i'm saying

 

I have a fortnight off work coming up next month. That's when i should hopefully have the time to go through all this. I set out with the goal to ask a few questions - which i've done. I've gotten replies and instead of turning me off it's interested me more. The answers are here for me to go over at a later date and give them the time they deserve. If i do it now it'll be rush-rush, understand a bit & then give up which i don't want to do.

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

If you can post here, you can try it yourself. It's not rocket science.

 

We all have to work, bro. We always have IRL things distrupt our hobbies.

[Technique]

14 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

If you can post here, you can try it yourself. It's not rocket science.

 

We all have to work, bro. We always have IRL things distrupt our hobbies.

Takes literally a minute to read a reply when on my break at work on my phone and then answer the guy when i get home takes literally another minute, maybe 2. I'm sure it'll take more than 2 minutes to read, understand and 'do'. I'll certainly do it don't you worry about that. It might not be as quick as you want me to do it but i'll do it.

 

And nobody said that we don't all have 'IRL' (i love that term, like the internet is a 'fake' life) things but then like i said earlier - i never volunteered the whys (because i know what the response will be because frankly nobody cares), i was asked for them.

[sc302 Veteran]

Download PLEX. Install Plex. Open PLEX. Logon to PLEX. Run through the initial wizard/Point to where your library is. Watch magic happen. 

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

1 minute ago, sc302 said:

Download PLEX. Install Plex. Point to where your library is. Watch magic happen.  

Thank you... Listen to SC...

[Technique]

Yes i'll be doing that. I wont be doing it until i've read the links provided but i'll be doing it sheesh.

 

I thought today, what about rare titles? Does it grab info for them no problems?

 

I have some CDs that actually aren't rare at all and iTunes can't pull album artwork for them. Makes me wonder about this whole thing. I have some DVDs that really aren't popular. A lot of them are martial arts movies.

 

I'll give you an example .... Jackie Chan in Wheels on Meals. IIRC i had to import that DVD as i couldn't get it here. I don't know if you guys have any titles that you'd consider not very popular? Does it pull the info for these things without issue?

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

Did 4 pages of posts mean anything to you?

 

You want to backup CD/DVDs, but then you say, oh, they aren't important. So, you don't care anymore?

[+BudMan MVC]

54 minutes ago, Technique said:

Jackie Chan in Wheels on Meals

You mean this info?

https://www.themoviedb.org/search/movie?query=Wheels on Meals&language=en-US

 

I have never ran into something that did not pull info.. Even if no info to be found - you can put in whatever info you want.. If it can not find info - but you have it or create whatever you want for say home movies, etc. etc..

 

You know even 30 minutes of play time would answer alot of the questions you might have..

 

I think I already mentioned - but if there are trailers available there will be links to it - even on OLD stuff..

 

Here for example movie from 1938 with trailer link

 

If you know more than what is out there you can add it, or override bad info, etc.

 

Trailers and Song lyrics might be for plex pass subscribers?  But its very reasonable priced, can pay per month, year, lifetime..  Lyrics on songs is pretty kewl feature   As you play a song you can call up the lyrics and walks through them and highlights as the song plays..  Been a subscriber for a few years now.. Should of bought lifetime - but when this expires prob go life.. But then again I love helping out the company and its well worth the cost.. But again you DO NOT HAVE to subscribe and still... It just adds some bells and whistles..  You can even do prerolls for stuff that plays before movies if you want, or have it play trailers before a movie plays - like you actually at the movies.. Again play with it for a few minutes!!!

[sc302 Veteran]

Yup.  If you just played with it, it will answer a lot of questions for you. 

[Technique]

Ok i get it, no more questions until i use Plex. Anyway, thanks Budman all the same.

5 hours ago, Mindovermaster said:

but then you say, oh, they aren't important. So, you don't care anymore?

Are you actually my employer? Because they like to put words in my mouth too actually.

 

Now if i went ahead and said that then you've got me & i'll hold my hands up.

 

BUT if i didn't say that then to me you're just as much of a waste of time as i'm pretty sure i am to you right now. If there's one thing i don't like it's people telling me i said something that i didn't or that i meant something i didn't because they think they know best.

 

Now screenshot me where i said that & i'll hold my hands up & say you're right, i'm wrong, and i mean where i said that. Not where i said something & you've decided you'll take it as something else but where i specifically said what you're saying i did, because if i didn't then just stick to the facts!

[sc302 Veteran]

You can ask questions but some things are easier explained if you see it.  That whole “a picture is worth 1000 words” saying is true. We can explain it 6 ways to Sunday and you can’t/won’t understand fully until you see it yourself. Even if you only have one or two movies in a folder, seeing it in action when it won’t cost anything other than about 5 min of your time is well worth the investment. Reading and responding to messages here take far more time out of your day. 

[+BudMan MVC]

I am big proponent of pics = more like 10,000 words.. Which is why I post so many screenshots and such..

 

Why do you think I take the screenshots of plex - so you can SEE.. It really is only a few minutes to install, put in a movie.. Fiddle with it when you have a few minutes, here, few mins there..  Pretty soon you will be like

 

 

For the plex pass

[+BudMan MVC]

Just to point out how this hobby can eat up some time before you jump into..

 

I was looking for a song blues for Allah, GD and I wanted the version on one from the vault CD.. But it wasn't listed.. Seems there are was a few tracks missing from a few CDs - not sure if didn't copy them over when moving files around.. If maybe they got lost when one of my disks started going bad.  My software evacuated all the data on that disk in the pool to other disks... But some of these tracks got lost?

 

Either way spent a few minutes this morning reripping the entire CDs that had missing tracks... Seems those CDs were at 192K and not 320   So now prob going to go through whole library and rip at 320..

 

And I found a slick piece of software that can run reports on your whole library..

Ozzmosis

by Ozzy Osbourne contains 12 tracks of which 1 are missing, these are listed below

6 Tomorrow by Ozzy Osbourne

 

Seems missing few tracks here and there, etc..  Now in the big picture not a big deal.. All depends on how anal or ocd you get with your library...   Seems I am missing quite a few tracks from Bob Marley collection as well.. So guess what is going to keep my busy this week as I took it off for thanksgiving heheeh..

 

Just a friendly warning - if you having a hard time finding time to even look.. Guess what is going to happen with your free time once you get started - heheheheeh

 

Oh the software is http://www.jthink.net/jaikoz/

It has a 30 day free trial - more meant as a full tagger.. But since your not actually going to be editing tags with it and only looking for albums your missing tracks off with... The trial limits wont be an issue... I use free mp3tagger to tag all my other music..

 

For example - no clue to why

Confrontation
by Bob Marley & The Wailers contains 10 tracks of which 3 are missing, these are listed below
4 Mix Up, Mix Up by Bob Marley & The Wailers
8 Stiff Necked Fools by Bob Marley & The Wailers
9 I Know by Bob Marley & The Wailers

 

[goretsky Supervisor]

Hello,

Paper is now located at https://static2.esetstatic.com/fileadmin/Images/US/Docs/Home/Staying_Secure/2205_19_0_EsetWP-OptionsBackingUpComputer.pdf   I will work with our web team to get a more friendlier URL for it.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 

 

On 11/9/2018 at 12:51 AM, DevTech said:

 

404:

 

https://www.eset.com/fileadmin/Images/US/Docs/Home/Staying_Secure/2205_19_0_EsetWP-OptionsBackingUpComputer.pdf

 

 

 

[DevTech]

6 hours ago, goretsky said:

Hello,

Paper is now located at https://static2.esetstatic.com/fileadmin/Images/US/Docs/Home/Staying_Secure/2205_19_0_EsetWP-OptionsBackingUpComputer.pdf   I will work with our web team to get a more friendlier URL for it.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 

 

 

Thanks for the updated link!

 

Which just makes me think that you should give your guys a lecture or presentation on GitHub. It's perfect for easy access to docs of all sort.

 

There are also a bunch of OSS doc systems such as GitBook:

 

https://www.gitbook.com/?t=2

https://github.com/GitbookIO/gitbook

 

I did a brief look to come up with an example from a security firm:

 

https://books.nowsecure.com/secure-mobile-development/en/

 

generated from:

 

https://github.com/nowsecure/secure-mobile-development

 

FWIW, whoever they are, they have a modern looking GitHub account going:

 

https://github.com/nowsecure

 

Which can give customers a lot of confidence that a company is current with tech.

 

ESET, to put it nicely, could use some work:

 

https://github.com/eset

 

 

Yeah, I know, sometimes a random thought results in too much thinking about it!

 

 

 

[+BudMan MVC]

Pretty sure you guys in the wrong thread

[DevTech]

3 minutes ago, BudMan said:

Pretty sure you guys in the wrong thread

Hey, Fake News!

 

All your wonderful media software posts are in the wrong thread since this one is about "backup" and that missing document we are talking about is about backup so right on topic!

 

Now, where is that Point-Of-View gun from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

 

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

6 minutes ago, BudMan said:

Pretty sure you guys in the wrong thread

Haha, post above was in reference to @goretskypost on backup techniques. On topic for now...but I'm watching you guys

[+BudMan MVC]

Um its about "backing" up his CD/DVD/BluRay collection - not his computer

 

Once he gets those backed up - guess it become relevant

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

2 minutes ago, BudMan said:

Um its about "backing" up his CD/DVD/BluRay collection - not his computer

 

Once he gets those backed up - guess it become relevant

Agree. I don't think it's wildly off topic so let's keep it in. Unless @BudManvehemently disagrees? 😛

[+BudMan MVC]

No it just seemed to come out of the blue   I must of missed part in the thread where it was brought up and then a link provided?