Backing up DVD / blu ray & CD collection?

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

43 minutes ago, Circaflex said:

That's not necessarily true, Plex will look at the file itself for tags, in order for it to match to the database (generate title, cover art, fan art, description, etc).

Thought it did it by folders, like music players do...

[Circaflex]

8 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

Thought it did it by folders, like music players do...

Music players also rely on tags, i suggest you research ID3. 

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

4 minutes ago, Circaflex said:

Music players also rely on tags, i suggest you research ID3. 

I swear they did.. learn something every day, I guess...

 

I'm on Spotify, I don't have to arrange anything.

[Circaflex]

5 hours ago, Mindovermaster said:

I'm on Spotify, I don't have to arrange anything.

Your music collection more than likely have the ID3 tags written to the MP3s you have.

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

Just now, Circaflex said:

Your music collection more than likely have the ID3 tags written to the MP3s you have.

You missed the joke, mate... In Spotify, you don't have to modify anything.

[Circaflex]

Just now, Mindovermaster said:

You missed the joke, mate... In Spotify, you don't have to modify anything.

Well of course, if you purchase music through spotify, or any other service, the files are tagged with ID3 tags for music players to identify them.

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

Just now, Circaflex said:

Well of course, if you purchase music through spotify, or any other service, the files are tagged with ID3 tags for music players to identify them.

Spotify is a streaming service, not a buying service like iTunes. We don't need to sort anything...

[Technique]

41 blu rays ripped so far, 1.1TB gone already on the new 6TB (sorry, 5.45TB) drive.

 

Not sure this drive is going to house all my movies & certainly not all my music alongside it 🤣

 

How big is your collection (sorry, library)?

[+BudMan MVC]

Well - not anywhere complete.. Only have home movies for a couple of years currently listed.  But in the big picture they are not very large.  Don't have even close to all my audiobooks on there.. But overall they not very large either.. Not even sure why have those on there - never listen too them via plex.  But maybe friends or family might.

 

Told you it can grow quick.. Do you have it generating thumbnails for your movies.. This will add space for sure..  I have that on because its great - makes it more like netflix where you can see where your at while you forward or reverse through a movie/show

 

I am either going to purge some stuff here soon or maybe transcode some large stuff down with x265.. I don't filling up the storage too much..

 

[Technique]

1 hour ago, BudMan said:

Do you have it generating thumbnails for your movies..

 

Yeah i think it would look pretty bland without.

 

It's not putting me off any. I quite enjoy it really, as sad as that may sound to some. If i need more space then i'll just buy more space whenever the time comes. If i have to split over 2 drives then i'll have to split over 2 drives, so be it.

 

For about 10 years or so now i've thought about putting all my music on one drive. I even bought a 1TB drive for it around that time but just never got round to it. That drive got replaced this week. Then at Xmas time gone i considered the idea of movies but when i made the thread i didn't know you could keep movies on the hard drive in such good quality. All about having the knowledge really.

 

But yeah i can't see me being put off it any time soon. I quite enjoy it. I can see why you say it costs in the long run but i don't drink much, i don't smoke, i no longer spend on cars etc so i have money to spend elsewhere.

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

1 hour ago, BudMan said:

Told you it can grow quick.. Do you have it generating thumbnails for your movies..

How do you get it doing that? That would be cool!

 

And you can you limit it to a specific library

 

Edit - Found it on the help page - https://support.plex.tv/articles/202197528-video-preview-thumbnails/ 

[+BudMan MVC]

No not talking about the posters for the movies and such, the link @dipsylalapo linked too is what I am talking about...

 

The web interface works different than say the plex app on roku..

 

See when you move your mouse at some part in the movie you see a preview of the pic at that point in time.

 

On the roku when move through the movie with the arrow buttons you get what looks like old school film strip from back in school (if anyone here as old as me - hehehe)

Here found a example

Looks something like this

 

Creating these can eat up quite a bit of extra space   But it really puts the icing on the cake for your viewing experience..

 

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

I may have to give this a go with my movies and see what kinda space it eats up. Cheers @BudMan

[Technique]

Yeah i realised the moment dipsy posted that i had misunderstood you. No i don't have that in place.

 

I'm currently wondering how i can do 'scene selection' via Plex. I don't know if it depends on how you're viewing it (you mention Roku whereas i'm going direct through my TV's app) or what. I go to next but it only skips a minute each press, or something like that, no significant amount of time.

When i'm ripping via MakeMKV If there's 2 options for example - such as 30GB and 30GB but with 22 chapters then i'll select the one with the chapters rather than the one with no chapters (which i imagine is just continuous viewing).

[+BudMan MVC]

Yeah it would depend on your app your using to interface with plex..

 

On mine when I go to a movie with chapters its listed below with chapter # (or name if done that way) And little thumbnail preview you can see of where that chapter starts.  I don't normally create chapters, but yeah support really depends on app being used.

 

Here I grabbed a couple of example - this is the web interface

 

You have to click the little chapter button.  Funny grab - Capt Renault looks crossed eyed

 

And here grabbed a pic with phone off of TV in the guest room that uses a roku stick..

 

You can edit them with MKVToolNix, part of the reason in the process of moving ALL my files to mkv.. You can change the container really easy with the mkvtoolnix, mkv is such an easy container to work with when it comes to subtitles, info in the file like titles and lang, chapters, etc. etc..

 

I really would suggest you check it out for working with your files.. https://mkvtoolnix.download/

 

Since I had the guest TV up with a movie and taking pic with phone... Here took a snap of how the video thumbnails look when searching through the movie with the arrow keys.

 

 

edit:  BTW just looked and the video thumbnails are like 65GB of space with 45K files

 

 

[nekrosoft13]

7 hours ago, Technique said:

41 blu rays ripped so far, 1.1TB gone already on the new 6TB (sorry, 5.45TB) drive.

 

Not sure this drive is going to house all my movies & certainly not all my music alongside it 🤣

 

How big is your collection (sorry, library)?

i'm at 95.5tb

[+BudMan MVC]

95Tbits, so about 12TBytes then

[Circaflex]

7 hours ago, Technique said:

How big is your collection (sorry, library)?

~1400 movies at roughly 19.4TB

[Technique]

Holy Moly.

 

So how many hard drives do you have your library split over? And i assume you then double this up to back up your library? Sorry i know people get sensitive about the term backing up but i'm going to keep on talking like the Average Joe regardless because i'm not a Neowin Elite

[+BudMan MVC]

20TB is not that big of deal these days.. You can get 10, 12 even 14TB disk you know   Synology Nas have 8 bay models that are not all that expensive.. So 20TB even with duplication is not that hard to do - if you want to spend the money.

 

Like I said from the get go, this hobby can get expensive

 

If the person meant 95TB vs tb - then that is pretty large for a home setup... But have seen higher - you should check out the datahoarders reddit

[Technique]

44 minutes ago, BudMan said:

you should check out the datahoarders reddit

No idea who the person is (yeah i know, i could Google it, but i guess from the way you say it that they have a ridiculous amount stored away so don't need Google for that :)) but for those kinds of people i do wonder how they acquire their library

[+BudMan MVC]

the datahoarders reddit is not a person, its another forum   Kind of hehehe

 

The people that post there have ungodly amounts of storage space.. They don't just store movies to watch... They store pretty much anything they can get their hands on.. TBs and TBs of storage in play... Multi Thousands of $ in storage...   Some of the people have more storage online than many decent sized companies

 

 

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

9 minutes ago, Technique said:

No idea who the person is (yeah i know, i could Google it, but i guess from the way you say it that they have a ridiculous amount stored away so don't need Google for that :)) but for those kinds of people i do wonder how they acquire their library

They just download the Internet. 

[nekrosoft13]

1 hour ago, BudMan said:

20TB is not that big of deal these days.. You can get 10, 12 even 14TB disk you know   Synology Nas have 8 bay models that are not all that expensive.. So 20TB even with duplication is not that hard to do - if you want to spend the money.

 

Like I said from the get go, this hobby can get expensive

 

If the person meant 95TB vs tb - then that is pretty large for a home setup... But have seen higher - you should check out the datahoarders reddit

 

 

[Circaflex]

1 hour ago, Technique said:

Holy Moly.

 

So how many hard drives do you have your library split over? And i assume you then double this up to back up your library? Sorry i know people get sensitive about the term backing up but i'm going to keep on talking like the Average Joe regardless because i'm not a Neowin Elite

ive got 7 drives in my pool and i dont backup my movies, i only backup things i cannot replace and i find it would be a waste of storage.