The "Windows 11 on Unsupported Hardware" Thread


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I thought there should be a thread for all people installing Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. 

 

A Script to put into a batch file. (I hid it so it doesn't take up the entire page)

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@(set "0=%~f0"^)#) & powershell -nop -c iex([io.file]::ReadAllText($env:0)) & exit/b #:: double-click to run or just copy-paste into powershell - it's a standalone hybrid script $_Paste_in_Powershell = { $:code; $N = 'Skip TPM Check on Dynamic Update'; $toggle = $null -eq $env:skip_tpm_enabled; $off = $false $M = sp HKLM:\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup 'AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU' 1 -type dword -force -ea 0 $M = sc.exe config Winmgmt start= demand; sp HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wbem 'Enable Costly Providers' 0 -type dword -force -ea 0 $B = gwmi -Class __FilterToConsumerBinding -Namespace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Filter = ""__eventfilter.name='$N'""" -ea 0 $C = gwmi -Class CommandLineEventConsumer -Namespace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Name='$N'" -ea 0 $F = gwmi -Class __EventFilter -NameSpace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Name='$N'" -ea 0 if ($B -or $C -or $F) { $B | rwmi; $C | rwmi; $F | rwmi; $off = $true } if ($toggle -and $off) { write-host -fore 0xf -back 0xd "`n $N [REMOVED] run again to install "; timeout /t 5; return } $P = "$([environment]::SystemDirectory)\cmd.exe"; $T = "$P /q $N (c) AveYo, 2021 /d /rerase appraiserres.dll /f /s /q" $D = "$($P[0]):\`$WINDOWS.~BT"; $Q = "SELECT SessionID from Win32_ProcessStartTrace WHERE ProcessName='vdsldr.exe'" $F = swmi -Class __EventFilter -NameSpace 'root\subscription' -args @{ Name = $N; EventNameSpace = 'root\cimv2'; QueryLanguage = 'WQL'; Query = $Q} -PutType 2 -ea 0 $C = swmi -Class CommandLineEventConsumer -Namespace 'root\subscription' -args @{ Name = $N; WorkingDirectory = $D; ExecutablePath = $P; CommandLineTemplate = $T; Priority = 128} -PutType 2 -ea 0 $B = swmi -Class __FilterToConsumerBinding -Namespace 'root\subscription' -args @{Filter=$F;Consumer=$C} -PutType 2 -ea 0 if ($toggle) { write-host -fore 0xf -back 0x2 "`n $N [INSTALLED] run again to remove "; timeout /t 5 } ; $:code; } ; start -verb runas powershell -args "-nop -c & {`n`n$($_Paste_in_Powershell-replace'"','\"')}" $_Press_Enter

Credit goes to -  https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/universal-mediacreationtool-wrapper-script-now-with-windows-11-support.84168/

 

I ran the bat file and then proceeded to do the Windows 11 upgrade on a VERY unsupported Windows 10 system.

 

HP Probook 4530 (From 2012)

Intel Core i3-2310M
4GB of ram (i'll add more if this works)
64GB SSD
Probably old or no TPM.

 

Installed and works great! 

 

 

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Successfully installed it on my 4 monitor couch computer. It stumped me for a while. After the install finished in windows it would reboot and stick me at a blank screen. I let it sit for 5 mins and it was still black.

 

So I turned it off and on and it went to a blank screen for 1 min and then restarted and recovered the install back to windows 10. So I figure it was always doing something I just couldn't see it.

 

So I plugged in the hard drive activity jumper and sure enough. When it was black it was still working. After about 10 mins, it restart and handed over to my monitor and I could actually see something.

 

Then it got stuck at 66% so I unplugged my USB to Dual DVI adapter and it went through the rest of the installation.

 

On this machine the only thing that wasn't supported was my CPU i5-7600. I just had to accept the waver.

So I don't know if it's the fact I did an in place upgrade to windows 11 thus fixing issues I may have had in the process, but waking up the computer from sleep and getting to the password box is much faster after the windows 11 upgrade.

I installed on the following:

 

AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (With TPM enabled for BitLocker, Secure Boot etc.)

AMD Vega 56 8GB

16GB RAM

 

No issues on a technical level, this was a clean install from the latest insider ISO (as of last week) and not enrolled in the insider programme. It ran and updated okay however I went back to Windows 10 because I didn't like using 11. The new taskbar is definitely a step back in productivity.

I have a HP Probook 840 G1 that does not meet the system requirements for Windows 11, processor isn't supported and only has TPM1.2.

 

What are my options to put Windows 11 on it anyway?

 

Do I have to use the batch file above? If so, how do you use it?

 

Or can I install from the ISO? I know it won't receive updates, but question is would I be able to get the next major update to Win 11 if I re-installed from scratch?

I've been running it on my trusty 4790k system for two months now (and not enrolled in Insider).  I have secure boot but no form of TPM at all.  Personally I'm very happy with Windows 11.

On 28/09/2021 at 16:37, warwagon said:

I thought there should be a thread for all people installing Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. 

 

A Script to put into a batch file. (I hid it so it doesn't take up the entire page)

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@(set "0=%~f0"^)#) & powershell -nop -c iex([io.file]::ReadAllText($env:0)) & exit/b #:: double-click to run or just copy-paste into powershell - it's a standalone hybrid script $_Paste_in_Powershell = { $:code; $N = 'Skip TPM Check on Dynamic Update'; $toggle = $null -eq $env:skip_tpm_enabled; $off = $false $M = sp HKLM:\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup 'AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU' 1 -type dword -force -ea 0 $M = sc.exe config Winmgmt start= demand; sp HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wbem 'Enable Costly Providers' 0 -type dword -force -ea 0 $B = gwmi -Class __FilterToConsumerBinding -Namespace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Filter = ""__eventfilter.name='$N'""" -ea 0 $C = gwmi -Class CommandLineEventConsumer -Namespace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Name='$N'" -ea 0 $F = gwmi -Class __EventFilter -NameSpace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Name='$N'" -ea 0 if ($B -or $C -or $F) { $B | rwmi; $C | rwmi; $F | rwmi; $off = $true } if ($toggle -and $off) { write-host -fore 0xf -back 0xd "`n $N [REMOVED] run again to install "; timeout /t 5; return } $P = "$([environment]::SystemDirectory)\cmd.exe"; $T = "$P /q $N (c) AveYo, 2021 /d /rerase appraiserres.dll /f /s /q" $D = "$($P[0]):\`$WINDOWS.~BT"; $Q = "SELECT SessionID from Win32_ProcessStartTrace WHERE ProcessName='vdsldr.exe'" $F = swmi -Class __EventFilter -NameSpace 'root\subscription' -args @{ Name = $N; EventNameSpace = 'root\cimv2'; QueryLanguage = 'WQL'; Query = $Q} -PutType 2 -ea 0 $C = swmi -Class CommandLineEventConsumer -Namespace 'root\subscription' -args @{ Name = $N; WorkingDirectory = $D; ExecutablePath = $P; CommandLineTemplate = $T; Priority = 128} -PutType 2 -ea 0 $B = swmi -Class __FilterToConsumerBinding -Namespace 'root\subscription' -args @{Filter=$F;Consumer=$C} -PutType 2 -ea 0 if ($toggle) { write-host -fore 0xf -back 0x2 "`n $N [INSTALLED] run again to remove "; timeout /t 5 } ; $:code; } ; start -verb runas powershell -args "-nop -c & {`n`n$($_Paste_in_Powershell-replace'"','\"')}" $_Press_Enter

Credit goes to -  https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/universal-mediacreationtool-wrapper-script-now-with-windows-11-support.84168/

 

I ran the bat file and then proceeded to do the Windows 11 upgrade on a VERY unsupported Windows 10 system.

 

HP Probook 4530 (From 2012)

Intel Core i3-2310M
4GB of ram (i'll add more if this works)
64GB SSD
Probably old or no TPM.

 

Installed and works great! 

 

 

Hi,

 

I tried installing win 11 on one of my main PC's (do you recommend doing it on one of my main pc's ?. I have an image of win 10 on an external HD and I have a restore point as well). I keep on getting the following error msgcant install this CPU. I have  i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz.

 

The question I have is if i run the "skip TPM Check batch file", will that fix the above error? If yes, do I then run the "mediacreationtool.bat" ? If yes, to that do I just use the option of "create usb" ? If yes to that, can I use the usb flash drive to update to win 11 ok? I dont want to do a fresh install. Plz let me know the answers to these questions.

 

Thx WW.

On 28/09/2021 at 15:37, warwagon said:

I thought there should be a thread for all people installing Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. 

 

A Script to put into a batch file. (I hid it so it doesn't take up the entire page)

  Reveal hidden contents

@(set "0=%~f0"^)#) & powershell -nop -c iex([io.file]::ReadAllText($env:0)) & exit/b #:: double-click to run or just copy-paste into powershell - it's a standalone hybrid script $_Paste_in_Powershell = { $:code; $N = 'Skip TPM Check on Dynamic Update'; $toggle = $null -eq $env:skip_tpm_enabled; $off = $false $M = sp HKLM:\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup 'AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU' 1 -type dword -force -ea 0 $M = sc.exe config Winmgmt start= demand; sp HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wbem 'Enable Costly Providers' 0 -type dword -force -ea 0 $B = gwmi -Class __FilterToConsumerBinding -Namespace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Filter = ""__eventfilter.name='$N'""" -ea 0 $C = gwmi -Class CommandLineEventConsumer -Namespace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Name='$N'" -ea 0 $F = gwmi -Class __EventFilter -NameSpace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Name='$N'" -ea 0 if ($B -or $C -or $F) { $B | rwmi; $C | rwmi; $F | rwmi; $off = $true } if ($toggle -and $off) { write-host -fore 0xf -back 0xd "`n $N [REMOVED] run again to install "; timeout /t 5; return } $P = "$([environment]::SystemDirectory)\cmd.exe"; $T = "$P /q $N (c) AveYo, 2021 /d /rerase appraiserres.dll /f /s /q" $D = "$($P[0]):\`$WINDOWS.~BT"; $Q = "SELECT SessionID from Win32_ProcessStartTrace WHERE ProcessName='vdsldr.exe'" $F = swmi -Class __EventFilter -NameSpace 'root\subscription' -args @{ Name = $N; EventNameSpace = 'root\cimv2'; QueryLanguage = 'WQL'; Query = $Q} -PutType 2 -ea 0 $C = swmi -Class CommandLineEventConsumer -Namespace 'root\subscription' -args @{ Name = $N; WorkingDirectory = $D; ExecutablePath = $P; CommandLineTemplate = $T; Priority = 128} -PutType 2 -ea 0 $B = swmi -Class __FilterToConsumerBinding -Namespace 'root\subscription' -args @{Filter=$F;Consumer=$C} -PutType 2 -ea 0 if ($toggle) { write-host -fore 0xf -back 0x2 "`n $N [INSTALLED] run again to remove "; timeout /t 5 } ; $:code; } ; start -verb runas powershell -args "-nop -c & {`n`n$($_Paste_in_Powershell-replace'"','\"')}" $_Press_Enter

Credit goes to -  https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/universal-mediacreationtool-wrapper-script-now-with-windows-11-support.84168/

 

I ran the bat file and then proceeded to do the Windows 11 upgrade on a VERY unsupported Windows 10 system.

 

HP Probook 4530 (From 2012)

Intel Core i3-2310M
4GB of ram (i'll add more if this works)
64GB SSD
Probably old or no TPM.

 

Installed and works great! 

 

 

will be interesting how this progresses, and if you will see updates on next patch tuesday

On 04/10/2021 at 21:56, nekrosoft13 said:

will be interesting how this progresses, and if you will see updates on next patch tuesday

this is my main concern right now and is whats stopping me.

 

though it seems completely crazy that they wouldn't patch systems that would spread malware (or whatever) otherwise

On 28/09/2021 at 16:37, warwagon said:

I thought there should be a thread for all people installing Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. 

 

A Script to put into a batch file. (I hid it so it doesn't take up the entire page)

  Reveal hidden contents

@(set "0=%~f0"^)#) & powershell -nop -c iex([io.file]::ReadAllText($env:0)) & exit/b #:: double-click to run or just copy-paste into powershell - it's a standalone hybrid script $_Paste_in_Powershell = { $:code; $N = 'Skip TPM Check on Dynamic Update'; $toggle = $null -eq $env:skip_tpm_enabled; $off = $false $M = sp HKLM:\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup 'AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU' 1 -type dword -force -ea 0 $M = sc.exe config Winmgmt start= demand; sp HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Wbem 'Enable Costly Providers' 0 -type dword -force -ea 0 $B = gwmi -Class __FilterToConsumerBinding -Namespace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Filter = ""__eventfilter.name='$N'""" -ea 0 $C = gwmi -Class CommandLineEventConsumer -Namespace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Name='$N'" -ea 0 $F = gwmi -Class __EventFilter -NameSpace 'root\subscription' -Filter "Name='$N'" -ea 0 if ($B -or $C -or $F) { $B | rwmi; $C | rwmi; $F | rwmi; $off = $true } if ($toggle -and $off) { write-host -fore 0xf -back 0xd "`n $N [REMOVED] run again to install "; timeout /t 5; return } $P = "$([environment]::SystemDirectory)\cmd.exe"; $T = "$P /q $N (c) AveYo, 2021 /d /rerase appraiserres.dll /f /s /q" $D = "$($P[0]):\`$WINDOWS.~BT"; $Q = "SELECT SessionID from Win32_ProcessStartTrace WHERE ProcessName='vdsldr.exe'" $F = swmi -Class __EventFilter -NameSpace 'root\subscription' -args @{ Name = $N; EventNameSpace = 'root\cimv2'; QueryLanguage = 'WQL'; Query = $Q} -PutType 2 -ea 0 $C = swmi -Class CommandLineEventConsumer -Namespace 'root\subscription' -args @{ Name = $N; WorkingDirectory = $D; ExecutablePath = $P; CommandLineTemplate = $T; Priority = 128} -PutType 2 -ea 0 $B = swmi -Class __FilterToConsumerBinding -Namespace 'root\subscription' -args @{Filter=$F;Consumer=$C} -PutType 2 -ea 0 if ($toggle) { write-host -fore 0xf -back 0x2 "`n $N [INSTALLED] run again to remove "; timeout /t 5 } ; $:code; } ; start -verb runas powershell -args "-nop -c & {`n`n$($_Paste_in_Powershell-replace'"','\"')}" $_Press_Enter

Credit goes to -  https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/universal-mediacreationtool-wrapper-script-now-with-windows-11-support.84168/

 

I ran the bat file and then proceeded to do the Windows 11 upgrade on a VERY unsupported Windows 10 system.

 

Could you expand on what this batch file does exactly?

On 05/10/2021 at 12:43, Malechai said:

Could you expand on what this batch file does exactly?

bypasses the requirement checks. Windows 11 install on unsupported hardware think's everything is okie dokie

Hello,

Performed a clean install of the 22000.194 .ISO to a ThinkPad P51s (Intel Core i7-7600) with a blank drive in it.  No warnings about compatibility issues during or after installation, and no issues with missing/unidentified hardware observed during usage. 

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 

  • 3 weeks later...
On 02/10/2021 at 16:52, Vince800 said:

I installed on the following:

 

AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (With TPM enabled for BitLocker, Secure Boot etc.)

AMD Vega 56 8GB

16GB RAM

 

No issues on a technical level, this was a clean install from the latest insider ISO (as of last week) and not enrolled in the insider programme. It ran and updated okay however I went back to Windows 10 because I didn't like using 11. The new taskbar is definitely a step back in productivity.

Further to my previous post. I again installed Windows 11 on release day using the media creation tool - this time I stuck with it and now couldn't imagine goibg back to Windows 10. Still on the same Ryzen 1600X system and I have installed all updates as released so far without issue.

 

I also have it installed on one of my desktops in the office at work, 7th gen i5, again no issues.

On 12/10/2021 at 15:47, nekrosoft13 said:

lets see for how long

Even if they stop updates through windows update, there are still ways to get the updates. Either manually or a PowerShell script. I seem to recall that someone (stardock ?) might release a program to do it.

The only real beef I have with Windows 11 , is the grouping of Jump lists and recently opened files.  You either turn both on or both off.  I want jump lists, but I also don't want recently watched porn videos to show up on the bottom of the start menu. 😛 

  • 2 weeks later...

I installed it on a Surface Book 1. My own device, which is why I took the risk.

 

I first attempted the Upgrade route, using the registry trick Microsoft themselves outlines on their website.

 

It took several attempts and I encountered a number of errors, ranging from the dreaded ones at the SAFE_OS phase to a few visits by the FIRST_BOOT phase - including the familiar MIGRATE_DATA problem which happens when multiple user accounts have the same SID. This is usually the culprit in enterprise PCs but not too common on personal computers. Still it can happen on personal computers if the user keeps switching back and forth between local/MS/work accounts.

 

At some point I decided not to take this experiment further, fearing that I could end up with a totally bricked device, bulged battery or a fried NVMe. So, for my last attempt, I went for a clean install. That one was a bit problematic too. Setup kept failing with an error message that I didn't have enough free storage, even though I had formatted the 256 GB NVMe in full. Had to resort to diskpart to get past this one.

 

So, finally I got Windows 11 up and running. I didn't stay on it for too long but while I was there everything worked fine. No driver issues, no compatibility issues. Clipboard (i.e. the screen part) detached and attached just fine. Thermals were about the same, sames goes for battery life, the first monthly update landed just fine, apps were working okay, all's well. Can't say about the touchscreen since mine's had stopped working a long time ago after one of those silly firmware updates (it might have been a coincidence, but I am still suspicious).

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