sold Am I asking too much? (Gaming PC for sale) no takers?

[Steven P. Administrators]

Due to upgrade (PC built in summer 2023).

• Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Black
• be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W
• ASRock X670E Steel Legend
• AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Boxed
• G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB F5-6000J2836G16GX2-TZ5NRW
• NZXT Kraken Elite 360 RGB Zwart
• 2x Lian Li UNI FAN SL120, 1-pack, Zwart, 120mm
• 2x Lian Li UNI FAN SL120, 3-pack, Zwart, 120mm
• Lian Li Universal Vertical Gen4 GPU Riser-kit)
• MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 2X 12G OC
• WD Black SN850X (no heatsink) 1TB
• Lexar NM710 2TB
• M2 Network card Marvell AQC113 10G/5G/2.5G/1000M

Current worth to build €2,805

Receipts and original boxes included

Notes:

• Lian Li Universal Vertical Gen4 GPU Riser-kit was bought second-hand
• SPDIF port cable holder broke (but works)
• Never been overclocked (except EXPO values)
• Includes ASRock Thunderbolt 4 AIC in box (not been used due to too few internal USB ports)
• 2nd Lian Li UNI FAN SL120, 1-pack, Black, 120mm in box (no time to build in rear of case)

I am asking €1,800 on a local marketplace in The Netherlands, and although it has been favorited 4x I am only getting lowball offers. It was first listed on May 14.

Would I be more successful selling without the video card?

[Nick H. Supervisor]

If you're not getting the price you're expecting, would it be easier to offload if you sell the parts individually?

[Steven P. Administrators]

On 09/06/2025 at 19:07, Nick H. said:

If you're not getting the price you're expecting, would it be easier to offload if you sell the parts individually?

Yeah a lot of people do that, but there are also terrible people on secondhand market places that will claim things like the CPU isn't working, or there's a problem with the motherboard etc

It's harder to confirm to a buyer that the item is fine when it is all sold separately.

I was thinking of taking out the 4070 and riser kit and lowering to 1400.

I think people who would buy this sort of system would pair a better GPU with it anyway (I had a 4080 SUPER in it).

[Som]

Just my personal opinion but if that's the way you've listed it, that may be the problem. Put the CPU , graphics card, ram and storage in that order, rest most people don't care or know about 

[Steven P. Administrators]

On 09/06/2025 at 20:11, Som said:

Just my personal opinion but if that's the way you've listed it, that may be the problem. Put the CPU , graphics card, ram and storage in that order, rest most people don't care or know about 

I relisted it (Google translate from Dutch):

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

I don't know if this is helpful or not, but just something I have an opinion on...

Gaming PC builds where you've specced up the parts you want, built the system, colour matched things, etc... They may well be a labour of love, but on the 2nd hand market - nobody cares.  People are looking for deals, not your passion project

[Steven P. Administrators]

On 10/06/2025 at 17:58, Nik Louch said:

I don't know if this is helpful or not, but just something I have an opinion on...

Gaming PC builds where you've specced up the parts you want, built the system, colour matched things, etc... They may well be a labour of love, but on the 2nd hand market - nobody cares.  People are looking for deals, not your passion project

IDK RGB is popular here too?

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

On 09/06/2025 at 12:12, Steven P. said:

Yeah a lot of people do that, but there are also terrible people on secondhand market places that will claim things like the CPU isn't working, or there's a problem with the motherboard etc

It's harder to confirm to a buyer that the item is fine when it is all sold separately.

I was thinking of taking out the 4070 and riser kit and lowering to 1400.

I think people who would buy this sort of system would pair a better GPU with it anyway (I had a 4080 SUPER in it).

I had that problem, too. I sold my motherboard on eBay. After a user bought it, he was complaining that the RAM pins were bent. I'm like, how tf did that happen. He hasn't replied in 2 weeks or ever, eBay gave me back my money.

[FloatingFatMan]

On 10/06/2025 at 17:05, Steven P. said:

IDK RGB is popular here too?

Is it though?  I built a new rig a few months ago and it was literally impossible to get one without RGB, but within 10 minutes of setting it up, I turned all that crap off.  It was REALLY distracting, and who needs additional heat INSIDE a PC?

It's popular on YouTube for sure, it's neat looking and whatnot, but it's about as practical as a coffee cup with a hole in it.

As for the price, a non-enthusiast would just see something priced way above what they can get from a retailer brand new...

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

On 10/06/2025 at 17:05, Steven P. said:

IDK RGB is popular here too?

RGB yes, as a gimmick on cheap cases and keyboard.  A well built, thoughtfully considered computer with good configurable RGB are not on the top of people's lists when searching for a deal.  And invariably, when people look towards the 2nd hand market - they are searching for a deal.

[Steven P. Administrators]

On 12/06/2025 at 09:59, Nik Louch said:

when people look towards the 2nd hand market - they are searching for a deal.

More than €1,000 cheaper than buying all the components new, PLUS most items have a receipt, and in some cases still have warranty is not a deal??

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

On 12/06/2025 at 09:07, Steven P. said:

More than €1,000 cheaper than buying all the components new, PLUS most items have a receipt, and in some cases still have warranty is not a deal??

Not the deal that 2nd hand purchasers tend to look for - no.  It's cheaper than the sum of it's parts new - yes.  But people looking for 2nd hand, pre-built computers are rarely looking for what you are selling.

Don't misunderstand; as an informed enthusiast I like that computer, and as an informed enthusiast I am often asked "My son wants a gaming PC and here's my budget" - in which case, as an informed enthusiast I would totally point them in this sort of direction.  But I am not the mass market, hence you may well have to wait longer for a sale.

If you're looking for speed - then breaking it into parts is likely to pay off better on that front, as there will be more people who suit that market and their likelihood of buying 2nd hand is more fruitful.  But - chore!

[binaryzero]

I’d be wanting to offload it fast too, wasted desk real estate.

[FloatingFatMan]

On 12/06/2025 at 09:34, Nik Louch said:

Not the deal that 2nd hand purchasers tend to look for - no.  It's cheaper than the sum of it's parts new - yes.  But people looking for 2nd hand, pre-built computers are rarely looking for what you are selling.

Don't misunderstand; as an informed enthusiast I like that computer, and as an informed enthusiast I am often asked "My son wants a gaming PC and here's my budget" - in which case, as an informed enthusiast I would totally point them in this sort of direction.  But I am not the mass market, hence you may well have to wait longer for a sale.

If you're looking for speed - then breaking it into parts is likely to pay off better on that front, as there will be more people who suit that market and their likelihood of buying 2nd hand is more fruitful.  But - chore!

I'd concur too, as an informed enthusiast I'd find it a good deal, but your average Joe just wants cheap as possible and it's hard to beat Amazon or Ebay builds for that.

[nekrosoft13]

On 12/06/2025 at 02:59, Nik Louch said:

when people look towards the 2nd hand market - they are searching for a deal.

Yes, people are cheap

 

I will give you $30 bucks for that 8TB SSD.

[inactive]

On 12/06/2025 at 10:18, nekrosoft13 said:

Yes, people are cheap

I will give you $30 bucks for that 8TB SSD.

Yeah, but I can't blame people given the way things are nowadays with inflated prices that used to be reasonable not all that long ago. but I would not even attempt to offer someone $30 for a 8TB SSD (I know that was just a example of people trying to really low-ball someone though) as trying to undercut the normal-ish price a decent amount is one thing but that much I would not even attempt to offer someone on Ebay etc. but on the flip side... I think some people want more than stuff is worth at times and even when you offer them something reasonable they might take it as a insult etc. but usually these types tend to be a bit more unreasonable/unrealistic with their pricing. I get people don't want to give their stuff away, but at the same time some try to squeeze every last penny out of stuff to. there needs to be some sort of balance there as a guideline. but even when it comes to prices on random stuff... it can be difficult to determine what's roughly fair/reasonable as a happy medium where both sides feel like they did at least okay on the deal.

but just off the top of my head buying expensive used stuff, especially stuff that might be more prone to failure (instead of being quite unlikely to fail), I might try to dodge or want a cheaper than usual price to even risk it etc.

but I guess I could probably speak for many when it comes to a gaming PC in that a person wants the cheapest possible price for something that's good enough as this tends to be roughly the sweet-spot of $ spent vs real world performance where it really matters. because it's generally not worth paying hundreds extra or more for something that's not significantly better than a more reasonably priced gaming PC that tends to be good enough as I figure once you get a setup that can do roughly 1080p @ 60fps with high enough graphics (or in this ball park either way), the gains past that tend not to be worth spending hundreds of dollars more when that money could be saved and ones current computer (the one that does 1080p @ 60fps with high enough graphics etc) will easily last years (probably 3-5 years for a conservative figure) before they genuinely need a upgrade and the saved hundreds of dollars could be put towards another build at some point in the future.

I never understood people who want to build a "better PC" when their current one is still clearly on the faster side of things and still runs pretty much everything more than well enough as you are pretty much just wasting money for something that's not that much better for the vast majority of tasks. like as a ball park when it comes to GPU's, to use NVIDIA as a example... right now I suspect a solid Geforce 20 series GPU is no where near needing a true upgrade as I would say more worthwhile upgrades are more seriously worth considering for people on the Geforce 10 series or older GPU's at the moment as I would probably use that as where the line is roughly drawn if you have to split stuff up into 'current enough' vs 'older' standards (even though I realize say a strong Geforce 10 GPU is still more than solid enough for many).

basically, short of a few specialized use situations etc, most people don't need anywhere near high end PC's, even from a gaming perspective since 30fps being playable and 60fps is pretty much perfect have been standards around for decades now as these are the ones that truly matter the most from a general real world gaming perspective. the 120fps+, while might help a bit, is still largely excess luxury in that it's just not worth the extra money unless prices are fairly close as if you got to pay hundreds of dollars more for it, overall most people are better off with the 'slower' setup.

p.s. hell, I am still on a i5-3550 CPU (which is 2012 CPU tech) with a NVIDIA 1050 Ti 4GB (which is 2016 GPU tech) and while if I upgraded today I would get a worthwhile difference, but in all honesty the main reason I hold off, besides prices nowadays being a bit inflated, is what games I do play tend to work anywhere from playable (30fps) to perfect-ish (60fps) and I am of the mindset I have a feeling my current GPU etc is more reliable than modern GPU's etc which is another reason I am in no rush to upgrade. I suspect ill eventually be forced into upgrading, but baring major hardware failure out of no where, ill likely be on my current setup for years to come at a minimum. say the rest of this decade, possibly further, especially given while I might play a recent-ish game (say in the current decade or so) here and there I am usually replaying games that stand the test of time from the past etc.

Edited June 12, 2025 by ThaCrip

[nekrosoft13]

What annoys me is the people that try to buy a higher end product, and then low ball you, and say but I don't need that function, all I need is to use it for video out so I don't feel like paying higher price.

 

I had a person that was trying to buy RTX 3080 from me for $100 and his excuse was, well I won't be playing games on it, I just need four monitor outout.

Or someone was trying to buy 2TB Gen5 M.2 for $50, well I don't need the speed, is just for basic storage.

Or i was offered $80 for 20TB hard drive, that person said well, right now I only about 7TB, so rest won't be in use

Just some examples in last month or two...

 

The guy with the 3080, I replied to with something like go to Chevy dealer and offer them $15K for that brand new corvette and tell them that you you only need to drive to work, so you don't need to go fast.

 

There a lot of low ballers that try to take advantage.

[Travesty]

Reading all the replies just backs up what I do. I give them away to family members or sell them at criminally low prices. It's the only way I've really gotten anything to move...

[Steven P. Administrators]

A guy messaged me yesterday wanting to talk on the phone, it turns out his friend messaged on "marktplaats" a day earlier asking what my lowest price was (€1650). After talking for a bit about it (he says he has no experience with computers and is relying on his friend) and then confirming with his friend, he messaged me he wanted to pick it up today. They both came today to check it out, and pick it up.

SOLD.

I prefer it this way rather than having to cannibalize it to sell for parts.

[Travesty]

On 14/06/2025 at 08:33, Steven P. said:

A guy messaged me yesterday wanting to talk on the phone, it turns out his friend messaged on "marktplaats" a day earlier asking what my lowest price was (€1650). After talking for a bit about it (he says he has no experience with computers and is relying on his friend) and then confirming with his friend, he messaged me he wanted to pick it up today. They both came today to check it out, and pick it up.

SOLD.

I prefer it this way rather than having to cannibalize it to sell for parts.

Nice! I hate the chop shop approach as well.

[FloatingFatMan]

On 14/06/2025 at 14:33, Steven P. said:

A guy messaged me yesterday wanting to talk on the phone, it turns out his friend messaged on "marktplaats" a day earlier asking what my lowest price was (€1650). After talking for a bit about it (he says he has no experience with computers and is relying on his friend) and then confirming with his friend, he messaged me he wanted to pick it up today. They both came today to check it out, and pick it up.

SOLD.

I prefer it this way rather than having to cannibalize it to sell for parts.

Glad you sold it!  

Chop shopping is a PITA.  I do a lot of stuff with retro computing, mostly 8 & 16 bit from the 80's, and the choppers are utterly destroying the market.  Ripping apart perfectly functional classic machines such as Amiga's and Atari ST's and so on and selling them for parts; it's disgusting.  

[nekrosoft13]

On 14/06/2025 at 08:33, Steven P. said:

A guy messaged me yesterday wanting to talk on the phone, it turns out his friend messaged on "marktplaats" a day earlier asking what my lowest price was (€1650). After talking for a bit about it (he says he has no experience with computers and is relying on his friend) and then confirming with his friend, he messaged me he wanted to pick it up today. They both came today to check it out, and pick it up.

SOLD.

I prefer it this way rather than having to cannibalize it to sell for parts.

good job, glad it sold