NeoWin Messenger

[scoult01]

A plugin for miranda might have been a less arduous task...

[Kestrel]

My guess is that this thing will never see the light of day. I say this because the discussion of the topic by 912 is really just a mish-mash of unrelated terms and I'm not really seeing anything that indicates you actually know what you're doing. I'm also curious as to how message delivery is going to work without some form of server component running somewhere; there's been lots of discussion about the client but nothing about how message delivery will work (protocol? is it p2p? is it traditional client-server?)

[Jase]

we are making a new protocol... like msn's but more better.. this will take some time, and wont be released in some time. It will see the light of day just dont know how soon.

[Jase]

My guess is that this thing will never see the light of day. I say this because the discussion of the topic by 912 is really just a mish-mash of unrelated terms and I'm not really seeing anything that indicates you actually know what you're doing. I'm also curious as to how message delivery is going to work without some form of server component running somewhere; there's been lots of discussion about the client but nothing about how message delivery will work (protocol? is it p2p? is it traditional client-server?)

On the third page there are some mock screenshots of the Messenger by LE3... so it has kind of seen the light of day :whistle:

[memNOC]

unless it somehow ties together with the forum database directly, and, for instance, you could post from within the program, and see the latest discussions, follow your threads, etc., then i absolutely see no use of this program..

real-time chat? theres the Forum chat, which nobody other than Michael (lonely fella) seems to use..

anyway, if you were looking indeed to do a Neowin-specific chat server/program, wouldn't it be easier to do some sort of Jabber server thing? i'm not sure how this actually works, but i know people can use Jabber to create personal servers..

i doubt this will get any use, frankly.. in any case, you could try with something much simple (like with Jabber), see if it has acceptance, and then continuing your work on a messenger client..

[Keito]

I just looked at the mock-ups and it kind of looks exactly like MSN Messenger >_< so that's something I don't really like, you should try and make something completely new...

Other then that I agree with memNOC, you should tie it up with the Neowin DB and stuff... that'd be cool. What I'm trying to say is basically, don't make another MirandaIM or Trillian or such, make it really usefull and have stuff that only has use for neowin members and is innovative...

I like the idea of a neowin messenger though :p and I do hope that it works out great :D

[Jase]

unless it somehow ties together with the forum database directly, and, for instance, you could post from within the program, and see the latest discussions, follow your threads, etc., then i absolutely see no use of this program..

That Will be Compatible with the Messenger yes, If you dont want to use it thats fine by me. I am simply doing this project because i Pm alot of people... Hell Everybody Pm's but woulden't it be easier just to simply send them a instant messege...hrmmmm :huh:

[theBangtheWord]

and will this be a server-based or decentralised system?

[cpu killer]

I wont take this seriously until I see Redmak, Neobond, or Voodoo take a word in this thread.

[csabo2]

why woul di want a list of 300 users that are online? i dont want them all on my list.

[Kestrel]

we are making a new protocol... like msn's but more better.. this will take some time, and wont be released in some time. It will see the light of day just dont know how soon.

Which protocol? SIMPLE or the old MSNP protocol? Both are based on a traditional client-server model so I'm wondering where you plan on running the server (if you even planned on that since I've still seen no discussion of a server).

I've written Enterprise scale IM systems and based on my experience and your comments, I still say this thing will never see the light of day... screenshot mockups do not count for anything, only functional product counts.

[Gergith]

why woul di want a list of 300 users that are online? i dont want them all on my list.

they dont have to be on your list or whatever, but there online. much like how msn doesnt show all online users, just the ones that are on your list

[SickWorm]

That Will be Compatible with the Messenger yes, If you dont want to use it thats fine by me. I am simply doing this project because i Pm alot of people... Hell Everybody Pm's but woulden't it be easier just to simply send them a instant messege...hrmmmm :huh:

I think this would be faster than PMing and I will surely use it. Keep up going man! ;)

[Wannes]

it sounds interesting but i'd rather have a Miranda IM plugin. :)

[Hidea]

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[SickWorm]

,May 12 2004, 14:50] it sounds interesting but i'd rather have a Miranda IM plugin. :)

I think [afc] is right. Since I've started using Miranda i can't change to another Messenger! :)

It might been easier too as you will have the core but you will only need to prepare the plugin! :o

[+John Teacake MVC]

Just use the Neowin Icons, Ive always wanted to use the full set in MSN They all are great.

[csabo2]

have you even started coding this?

[SickWorm]

have you even started coding this?

I think they have but the programming team is conceded by very few so we won't get results soon! :(

[iamnotwhoisayiam]

Hmm.. or... the folk that you PM a lot... add them to your MSN list? :huh:

[SickWorm]

Hmm.. or... the folk that you PM a lot... add them to your MSN list? :huh:

Yeah, but what about someone who you just want to contact once. For example he/she posted a desktop in the Desktop Thread and you want something of the desktop... If you PM him/her then you might get a reply 10 sec later or you might not get a reply at all. So this would be more convenient and faster as long as we all use it though!

[Jase]

Miranda Im plugin....... Hrmmmm....XML.... I am On it.. ;)

[Jase]

Yeah, but what about someone who you just want to contact once. For example he/she posted a desktop in the Desktop Thread and you want something of the desktop... If you PM him/her then you might get a reply 10 sec later or you might not get a reply at all. So this would be more convenient and faster as long as we all use it though!

Well Said.. :yes:

[SickWorm]

Well Said..  :yes:

Thanks! :)

Edit: 912 - When are we gonna see something of this project? Is it in process or you 're still searching for programmers?!

Edited May 14, 2004 by SickWorm

[Jase]

It is in verrrry slow process.. because i am in need of more programmers...:(