best WYSIWYG html editor?

[Matt T]

in your opinion, would is best best WYSIWYG html editor/composer that has a free trail/version available for download? I'm using Netscape Composer 7.1 at the moment and I'm looking to change to something else.

[Alien Venom]

Mozilla's composer is pretty good.

Now available in a stand-alone (NVU) version, availalbe for Linux and Windows...

[em_te]

  Mr magoo said:

Front page and dreamweaver have an annoying tendancy to producy crappy code -e.g. <br> not <br /> and <img xxxx > not <img xxxx />.

How is not closing those tags considered sloppy? They are still valid HTML constructs and validate fine.

[Garrett Socling]

  norky said:

from your website:

that's soooo unprofessional.

Your opinion has been noted and placed into the circular file.

I don't give a damn about professional :)

G

[xplatinum]

Dreamweaver all the way.

[+virtorio MVC]

Dreamweaver is my preference, but it (like most other wysiwyg editors) generates code that is unrequited.

[kiszmai]

I use Coffee Cup HTML Editor , and notepad.

[artibatirae]

Personally, I use Frontpage 2003. It like the way you work in it. Dreamweaver is Ok too, but I haven't really tried GoLive too much. I suppose it depends pretty much on how you want to work with the program.

People who say that Frontpage 2003 produces too fat code have clearly never worked with the program. It produces very lean code, at least for designs and formatting. Code that works very well with Mozilla, even. (You can edit elements that will show up in "real" browsers, like Mozilla, but not flawed ones like Internet Explorer. (Some elements will not show properly in Frontpage, but it will "work", so don't worry about it.))

The only bad thing about it is it's relative dependence on Frontpage Server Extensions for the trickier stuff, but I suppose that the very most people don't use that anyway.

That said, it's always good to learn the "language" outside of a WYSIWYG program. Once you learned it, however, it's a lot easier to work in a WYSIWYG. Dreamweaver, Frontpage, makes no difference. In the end, you need to learn how to take control of your code anyway. But a WYSIWYG certainly helps, once you've mastered the basics.

[nazgul]

Dreamweaver MX 2004, hands down.

[toematoe]

each proggy has it pros and cons. the best thing is still having knowledge of css, html by heart coz nothing beat it when u get into some html coding problem with wysiwyg software be it frontpage or dreamweaver.

[Matt T]

ok, thanks guys - dreamweaver it is. I'm downloading it now... holy ****, 98.56mb?!? :o thankgod for DAP :p

as for the whole free trail thing, I wanted a free trail so i could juts get a crack off the net ;) just dont let the FBI know OK? :ninja: :shifty: :p

I'll let you know about dreamweaver in about a week... ah, the wonders of 56k :D

[justin89h]

I'm another person who votes for Dreamweaver, it doesnt cluttle up code.

[Schmoove]

  Mr magoo said:

Front page and dreamweaver have an annoying tendancy to producy crappy code -e.g. <br> not <br /> and <img xxxx > not <img xxxx />. Also, they tend to open and close tags at any opportunity- i.e. specifying the font at each instance rather than say setting it in a css style sheet. It might sound funny, but i found learning to hand code a lot more effective than using WYSIWYG coders. If your not into that tho - Dreamweaver!

I'm not using it as a pure WYSIWYG editor. You can do anything by hand if you want and still get nice assistence of code coloring, code snippets, the O'Reilly HTML reference guide, source formatting, etc, etc.

For example if you need a complex table you can easily insert that and tweak the code. It is way faster then typing it all yourself.

[redfish]

How good is Adobe's GoLive compared to Dreamweaver and FrontPage

[jimbo11883]

Notepad all the way baby!

[Jason the Eighty Eighth]

  jimbo11883 said:

Notepad all the way baby!

he wants whysiwig (:D).

[skullbox15]

Netobjects Fusion. Its what I learned on before I started coding...

[Galley]

WYSIWYG :x

[Krudomanic]

Macromedia Dreamweaver for me...

[mswarts]

  Galley said:

WYSIWYG :x

Yep, but DW is the best of them :D

[Matt T]

what's so wrong with WYSIWYG? alot easier IMO :/

[m1k3io]

Dreamweaver all the way. For the people who believe in strict handcoding... your loss! Some WYSIWYG editors improve productivity and possibly creativity because you are forseeing the design in a sense. Then, when you need to make small changes, you can view the code in a text editor later. I do agree, however, that it is good to know HTML if you seriously want to get into web design.

[Matt T]

OK, I've got dreamweaver now :) very, very nice. however, I have a bit of a problem - everytime i create a tabe and try to insert text, the text goes in the center of the table automaticly - I dont want it there and dont know how to fix it.

can anybody help?

[m1k3io]

Click anywhere inside the table. Then in your properties bar at the bottom (or wherever you have it) make sure that the vertical (vert) cell alignment is set to TOP.

[Butsy]

<td valign=".... Oh wait :rofl:

[lnmnky]

They are always different views on html editors

Much like the firefox/IE war, there is wysiwyg/code war.

If you really don't want to worry about learning every piece of css and (x)html out there, then go for dreamweaver. You'll find that after a while, you'd have learn some of it naturally anyway.

If you then want to go to pure code, then I'd recommend Homesite 5.x, or Visual Studio. Use your browser to see what it looks like.

.....If you want to go for an editor that doesn't frigg your code, you must want to write code that is at least web standard. So ditch those tables. ;-)