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Okay, I have been an iPod owner for the last year. Everyone loves the iPod, right? Wrong, As much as I like the interface and controls of the iPod, the battery and lack of software transfer choices had me looking to the side of iRiver.

Note: I think iRiver renamed iHP-120 to the H120.

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Basic Specifications

-20Gb hard disk (Really 19GB)

-Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV and OGG Vorbis

-USB 2.0 transfers

-Integrated FM tuner

-Backlit remote control with 4-line display

-Built-in voice recorder

-Real-time MP3 encoding

-Store or transfer files of any type

-Optical input and output

-Upgradeable to future formats and features

Comparison between iPod 15GB and iRiver 20GB

Note: 15Gb iPod is $299.99 ? 20GB H120 is $329.99What you getb>The H120 includes the following:i>

-The H120

-USB 2.0 cable

-Earphones

-Wired Remote w/ Display

-External Mic

-Power Adapter

-and MoreThe iPod (15GB) includes the following:i>

-The iPod

-Earphones

-Power Adapter

-Firewire Cable

-Not much moreFeelb>

The first thing you notice about the iRiver is that it ?seems? bigger then the iPod. Now, it?s really nearly the same size, (H120 is a bit thicker) but the iPod definitely ?feels? much smaller. Now the old had the iRiver ?seems? much lighter then the iPod did. So that?s an even mControls.

Controls

The interface and the controls of the iPod are still an overall winner. I don?t think anything can beat them. But iRiver made a great attempt! The H120 has the same number of buttons as the iPod does. It consists of 4 buttons, and the jog-dial. The iPod also has 4 buttons and the the wheel. With the iPod all of the controls and basically self-explanatory, yet with the H120 taking a look at the manual does indeed get you going. I never looked at the manual for the iPod. The iRiver relies on quick taps or the buttons and longer holds to control and get to the different features. One thing to remember is the H120 offers a Voice Recorder, MP3 or WAV encoding from different sources, FM Tuner, and then the basic MP3 player. So, having the extra functions iRiver had to do it this way, or have 8 or so buttTransferring Filesansferring Files

Choices!!! I had purchased Anapod for my iPod. Its works great, adds some cool features, but it costs money! To ad to that it?s a program running in the background if you wish to take full use of it. iTunes, I?m not a fan. You have the iPod Service and iTunes Helper running all of the time. Each one takes generally over 10MB of RAM each! Then throw iTunes into the mix at its 25-30MB of RAM. Nearly 50MB of RAM! Not Cool! Now with the H120 all you do is plug it in, Windows XP found it and within 10 seconds I could drag and drop folders and files directly to the device. It supports WinaFormat Support.

iRiver H120

iRiver H120

-MP3

-MP3 VBR

-WMA (DRM Enabled Too)

Apple iPod-ASF

Apple iPod

-MP3

-MP3 VBR

-AAC

-Audible

-WAV

-AIFF (Mac)

Bottom Line: File format support means nothing unless you really use the formats! But purchase the iRiver based on the fact that it plays OGG unless you have encoded or plan to encode your tracks with OGG. But purchase the Apple based on the fact that it plays AAC unless you have encoded or plan to encode your tracks with AAC. iTMS lovers, the iPod is for you. Napster users, H120 is for you.

If you are just listening to the players through earphones the truth is its very doubtful you will hear a difference in AAC vs. OGG or AAC vs. MP3 (I based that on MP3 at 160kbps of greater). If you plan to spend $300 on a nice set of earphones/headphones or you are hooking a device up to your HT then you should worry about AAC vs. MP3 (Or whatever)

I personally use these devices to (1) Go running (2) Use on trips, when you are on a plane sound quality becomes the least of your worries (3) Sit around the house and listen. If you are running and noticing difference in AAC vs. MP3 you need to start thinking about running and notBatteryhearing.

Battery

I was getting really ****** at the crappy battery life of the iPod. It claims 8 hours, I was getting more like 6. 6 hours and that?s with the backlight turned off. If you are say, getting ready to take a nice trip 6 hours is not enough. You got 1-2 hours in the Airport, and then at least 3 hours on a plan. That?s around 5 hours of battery life, what if I would like the backlight on while on the plane? That just kills the iPod. With the H120 I?m getting 12+ hours with the backlight on (3 seconds). For me, thFinal Wordsing point.

Final Words

I?m happier with the iRiver H120. You make your own choice on which on:yes:or might be right for you. :yes:

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I don't like the screen text anywhere near as much as the iPod... also, the joystick has no grip and I know someone that put superglue on the stick to give it grip (they found out about the superglue thing on the web - it just dries slightly rough and gives it some grip). The iPod has plenty of problems but I don't think the H120 is better - it has better battery life and so is a lot more practical but saying it is better purely on battery life is a mistake.

I bought a 40Gb iPod but ending up selling it - it would skip occasionally, the back would come off and it just wasn't a good as I expected it to be. Still, it looks better, has a better screen and a better navigation system than the H120. I love the H120's remote (changing files and seeing what you are changing to... and being backlit) and it looks quite nice (not iPod nice, but nice). This generation of MP3 players is just slightly lacking - a mix of the iPod with the H120 battery life, remote and file support would be a good step.

So to summarize - the iPod and the H120 are nice... but this generation of MP3 players is merely a step in the right direction for better players to come along.

Just days after buying my iHP-120 in Dec. of last year, I had to fly to North Dakota for a funeral. Leaving the iHP-120 strapped on my belt, and being able to control everything from the remote is great when you're strapped into an airliner seat.

Red Cahir Software makes an iRiver version of Anapod, iRivium Explorer. It makes copying songs to the iHP-120, syncing and creating playlists a breeze. One feature I like is that it will filter out data files. You can copy any folder of files, and it will skip over Folder.jpg and Thumbs.db data files. It will even sync Outlook contacts; wacky!

http://www.redchairsoftware.com/irivium/

well that's what i meant:huh:h:

i got a chance to test them both.. and imo the iriver has a better sound..:yes:s:

oh, i htought you said that the ipod was ugly but sounded better. i actually prefer this thoguh, too many people have an ipod and this is packed with features. its a more geeky mp3 player i guess.

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