Disappointing week for Firefox...

[neoufo51]

The creator of the current Firefox default theme has posted that the Firefox devs will stop using his theme in favor of something more "uniform" and "free" across all supported platforms...meaning that they want to keep Firefox from looking too much like IE6 and also to create a "brand identity" that people will "recognize" across all platforms for Firefox and Thunderbird.

The change will occur this week...and will be the default for 0.9. I really hate this. Qute looks so great right now and I really wish they had pursued a better design. I'm sure you guys will agree that other themes will definitely have to be used once this monstrosity comes out in wide release the 12-14th. I am happy to report that Arvid will keep Qute alive for Firefox and will make it available as a theme for download.

Here's the original post. People are adding negative comments as we speak.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=82385

...and here is what is coming for 0.9, as checked into the branch builds.

UPDATE: TODAY'S 6/07 NIGHTLY BRANCH BUILD NOW HAS THE NEW THEME, AS PICTURED BELOW. TEST AWAY, POST COMMENTS, ETC.

Edited June 7, 2004 by neoufo51

[neogort]

For 1.0 they need to do something like when they made the Modern theme. Modern was a HUGE jump from previous themes and gave Netscape/Mozilla the unique look that it needed.

[Emon]

Winstripe is much better than the current theme. (Y) ..cant wait for 0.9 to come out ..

[Bearded Kirklander]

As long as you can pick different themes and activate them, does the default theme really matter that much? You can always change it.

[supernova_00]

I guess its just the thought of the n00bs dling and thinking it looks like **** or like IE

[Veedems Veteran]

I guess its just the thought of the n00bs dling and thinking it looks like **** or like IE

qute looks more like IE than winstripe does.

[Yvo]

I'm confused as to why this hasn't been posted on the mainpage yet.

This sure is more interesting than "Microsoft Offers Free Licenses for Backup Servers" heh

[Liquid]

where do you get pinstripe?

[kainashi]

fix some of the icons, like reload, home, etc. and the spacing above and below the icons and this theme will rock. can't wait to give it a try. i love it. :)

[supernova_00]

I'm confused as to why this hasn't been posted on the mainpage yet.

This sure is more interesting than "Microsoft Offers Free Licenses for Backup Servers" heh

then we'd have every opera fanboy bitchin about it...really not that imporant anywayz.

[Liquid]

This is teh 0.9 theme.

[Bizkit]

I really don't care what the default theme is, cause I just use my own. I just want a browser that works good and fast.

[Veedems Veteran]

This is teh 0.9 theme.

it hasn't been checked in yet.

[waddle5000]

I really don't care what the default theme is, cause I just use my own. I just want a browser that works good and fast.

ya theme doesnt make a big difference its the performance that matters

[neoufo51]

Anybody else besides me think that the go button would be a good replacement for those horrible back/forward buttons?

Oh and Bangbang, I have something for you since you accused me last night of spread misinformation. I would have got back sooner but was asleep.

1. Ben Goodger said that 1.5 megs would be cut from the download size and he was right, but not in the way we hoped. They now use 7-zip compression to get the installer down to 4.6mb. No code was removed since then and Ben did not say whether any code bloat would be removed in the near future. Check out the nightlies here to see the smaller installer.

2. David Bienvenu is currently working on getting TB to have a global set of boxes for all pop3 accounts. We will definitely have this feature by 1.0, according to him, and I'm looking very forward to this as I myself have 4 email accounts. Read the bug for yourself. His last code checkin was on the 21th of May. Check out the list of steps he is taking to make this work.

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30057

Now, is that all?

[Dessimat0r]

Looks alright, but the current theme is good enough for me.

[Veedems Veteran]

Anybody else besides me think that the go button would be a good replacement for those horrible back/forward buttons?

Oh and Bangbang, I have something for you since you accused me last night of spread misinformation. I would have got back sooner but was asleep.

1. Ben Goodger said that 1.5 megs would be cut from the download size and he was right, but not in the way we hoped. They now use 7-zip compression to get the installer down to 4.6mb. No code was removed since then and Ben did not say whether any code bloat would be removed in the near future. Check out the nightlies here to see the smaller installer.

2. David Bienvenu is currently working on getting TB to have a global set of boxes for all pop3 accounts. We will definitely have this feature by 1.0, according to him, and I'm looking very forward to this as I myself have 4 email accounts.  Read the bug for yourself. His last code checkin was on the 21th of May. Check out the list of steps he is taking to make this work.

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30057

Now, is that all?

you said an additional 1.5mb from the original .5mb. That would be a total of 2mb which didn't happen. whatever, I don't care, it's just a damn browser. I'm not obsessive like some people are. If they change it so it doesn't fit my needs, I'll stop using it.

[neoufo51]

you said an additional 1.5mb from the original .5mb. That would be a total of 2mb which didn't happen.

About TB, I even asked in the TB forums and it was made clear to me that the individual boxes would not be lost.

It wasn't a full 2 megs, but a big jump, as you can see from the installer. Its another move by the devs to make people use the installer rather than the zips.

Also, the reason why development of the global inbox is taking so long is because of course, they are trying to find out the best way to include BOTH options to TB users. There will probably be an option in the first run wizard that lets you choose between multiple and single inboxes. I dunno why nobody in the TB forums told you this, because as you can see from the bug with 89 votes, Bienvenu is clearly making this an option for us because TB 1.0 won't be as big a hit if people have to check multiple boxes. A lot of people dislike TB for this very reason.

[nuka_t]

where do you get pinstripe?

google, it should be the first result and its on the mozilla forums.

[Veedems Veteran]

A lot of people dislike TB for this very reason.

It's the entire reason I stopped using Outlook 2003 and started using TB. I don't want my mail mixing as each of my 4 accounts had unique uses.

[neoufo51]

It's the entire reason I stopped using Outlook 2003 and started using TB. I don't want my mail mixing as each of my 4 accounts had unique uses.

Well. Like I said, you have not been forgotten. Don't worry.

[Bearded Kirklander]

For 1.0 they need to do something like when they made the Modern theme. Modern was a HUGE jump from previous themes and gave Netscape/Mozilla the unique look that it needed.

The MODERN theme is still my favorite of all the Mozilla/FireFox themes.

It looks great. Wish that FireFox had this built-in like Mozilla does.

It's the entire reason I stopped using Outlook 2003 and started using TB. I don't want my mail mixing as each of my 4 accounts had unique uses.

I like using OE 6 with Hotmail because it makes a separate set of folders and a separate entry for your hotmail account and it is easy to keep it separated.

Edited June 7, 2004 by Bearded Kirklander

[Redestium]

It's the entire reason I stopped using Outlook 2003 and started using TB. I don't want my mail mixing as each of my 4 accounts had unique uses.

Search folders could solve that in about 2 minutes in case you were wondering.

[b3ta]

I've used Firefox since Phoenix 0.1, thus it is my right to moan and bitch.

Don't like it? Don't bitch and moan - we don't care, just go and use IE. :crazy:

[neoufo51]

IE sucks. Firefox rules. I said I hate the new theme, but I'm still gonna use it.

[User_Deleted]

i like it change is good :)