Installing Stuff on Mandrake 10

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Ok i just downloaded mandrake 10...now i want to install some stuff..and so i double clicked on on (common sence)..and i clicked here and there..and and then i went to the..little *star* start menu and i couldn't find it....i dont even think it was installed because i cant find it anywhre

somebody told me to use "yum" but i couldn't find it ...and then i looked for (i think its) apt but i couldn't find that either

HOW DO YOU INSTALL STUFF ON MANDRAKE 10

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lol

dude linux is not like windows at all. and no, it isn't 'common sense'. You're just used to windows. If you want to install something you're gonna have to use the terminal (prompt)

something like :

./configure

./make

./make install

and then there are dependencies... you're in for an headache hehe. And from my past experiences, 95% of the time, you will not get a nice little menu in the "startmenu". You're gonna have to make a shortcut manually or launch through terminal.

Linux isn't for everyone... as for you, I suggest you delete the linux partitions and go back to windows. If you want to learn then fine, but it will take some time. If you're just trying it for the fun of it, you'll have more frustrations than anything else. If you were expecting something that's a clone of windows I suggest you stop right now. Might want to look at Linspire (lindows). NEver tried it, but it would be a better idea for you than Mandrake.

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xplatinum, is there a detailed guide somewhere for newbs that you would recommend?

I'm a linux n00b myself, don't think I know how it works. But I know enough to tell that guy that its not like he thinks it is... at ALL.

As for a guide... I doubt there's one. There's way too many things to know... I suggest you use google and try to find exactly what you need. Or buy the linux bible...

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Actually, you don't need to do any actual compiling with Mandrake right now, so ignore all what xplatinum said. You may someday have to compile a hard to find application, but you've got a bit to learn before you get to that level. There should be a entry on your menus that is called 'Configure your system' or something similar. Click that, and it will ask you for your root password. After that, it will open up a 'Control Panel'-looking window, and you should look for an icon referring to 'packages' or 'Package Management', or something similar. This will allow you to install software included on the CD that you may have overlooked during install, bugfixes and updates. For mandrake-specific software to download go here, or for a general software archive, look here.

Once you get into it, you'll find that you can use the package manager in Mandrake to install and browse through entire ftp archives of rpm files. It's really quite robust. Heres a hint as well, if you check out the ftp sites that mirrors the Mandrake updates when you have it connect to download, more often than not, they have directories called 'contrib' and 'current' that are chock-full of new stuff to install and play with.

Here's some I found for you;

ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distribut...0/contrib/i586/

http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ - has instructions on how to add this site to your package manager.

Just don't give up. You'll get the hang of it, it's just that it's a different way of doing things than you are probably used to. As for some other people...if you have nothing valuable to say and can't help, why post anything at all? Why try to discourage someone from trying something new? Seems pretty assinine to me.

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  gawdflesh said:
Actually, you don't need to do any actual compiling with Mandrake right now, so ignore all what xplatinum said. You may someday have to compile a hard to find application, but you've got a bit to learn before you get to that level. There should be a entry on your menus that is called 'Configure your system' or something similar. Click that, and it will ask you for your root password. After that, it will open up a 'Control Panel'-looking window, and you should look for an icon referring to 'packages' or 'Package Management', or something similar. This will allow you to install software included on the CD that you may have overlooked during install, bugfixes and updates. For mandrake-specific software to download go here, or for a general software archive, look here.

Once you get into it, you'll find that you can use the package manager in Mandrake to install and browse through entire ftp archives of rpm files. It's really quite robust. Heres a hint as well, if you check out the ftp sites that mirrors the Mandrake updates when you have it connect to download, more often than not, they have directories called 'contrib' and 'current' that are chock-full of new stuff to install and play with.

Here's some I found for you;

ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distribut...0/contrib/i586/

http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ - has instructions on how to add this site to your package manager.

Just don't give up. You'll get the hang of it, it's just that it's a different way of doing things than you are probably used to. As for some other people...if you have nothing valuable to say and can't help, why post anything at all? Why try to discourage someone from trying something new? Seems pretty assinine to me.

this was all great...i even picked out the things i wated and started installing them until....it asked for a 4th cd...but when i burned them....there were only 3....oh my

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the fourth cd comes with it if you buy mandrake. i idid this innocently, but because i downloaded mandrake off of a bittorent site, it gave me all four cd's. however, during he installi never used the fourth one and i dont want to be using a warez linux so i deleted the fourth CD.

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How do you delete a CD :D?

But seriously, it is not illegal. The only reason it is with the box set is because it contains none-GPL software - therfore it can't be a 100% GPL distro if it was offered with the 4th CD for download.

Sometimes I think they go a bit OTT with the GPL complaince and should strike a balance between keeping open source and ease of use and convience. Just my 2 cents though.

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How do you delete a CD :D?

But seriously, it is not illegal. The only reason it is with the box set is because it contains none-GPL software - therfore it can't be a 100% GPL distro if it was offered with the 4th CD for download.

Sometimes I think they go a bit OTT with the GPL complaince and should strike a balance between keeping open source and ease of use and convience. Just my 2 cents though.

As far as the non-GPL 'extras', that would include things like MP3 encoding/decoding algorithms. These must be licensed, so cannot be 'freely' given out. Perhaps money is involved, I don't know. But it is a restriction outside the realm of Linux.

There is also DeCSS (to decode DVDs you bought and own to play on your Linux box - except it is in a very gray legal area). This is another algorithm that is claimed to be illegal to distribute. DVD Jon has been the subject of many lawsuits in Norway, and has won them to the last one I have heard of. The Motion Picture industry has pursured him in court relentlessly despite the losses, and last I heard has declined the most recent opportunity to appeal. This does not make it legal, however, it just means they aren't pursuing Jon Johanssen any more.

I don't think any organization trying to make a livign out of packaging and selling Linux will want to assume the legal liabilities of including these and other non-GPL items (at least without making a pay-for version which they can appropriately track license useage and/or royalty payments). This is the primary reason used when RedHat ias asked about MP3s and these other items.

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