gorman Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 A computer for church, eh? I might recommend listening to this for insight: religiouscomputers.mp3 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 The church does not need that stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeldicky Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Rob, any thoughts on why church's don't need that stuff? I'm not so sure why you are so against it.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Rob, any thoughts on why church's don't need that stuff? I'm not so sure why you are so against it.... They are showing paltry powerpoint presentations. A celeron 1.0Ghz, 128MB Ram, and 20gb hard drive would be overkill for doing that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 you guys are going WAY overboard for a simple church computer... i agree with rob on this, there's no reason to have raid and watercooling and etc. build the cheapest thing possible. they won't need to upgrade it in a year, they are going to be playing half-life 2. as long as they can turn it on, make a powerpoint presentation, and run it, why would they want to upgrade? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeldicky Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 I understand what you guys are saying. Really. I really am not as concerned with speed here. As I said earlier, it is one of the most critical computers in our church. Take it out of the church context. Is RAID so hard to understand in a computer that absolutely cannot go down? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Raid is a good idea for a computer that cannot go down. but... this is a small chuch computer. nothing mission critical. if it goes down, well, they aren't going to be seeing the text for that sunday.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeldicky Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Okay, thank you. So really, the disagreement is whether or not the computer is mission critical. I guess that's not really for you to decide. That is really up to Paul. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oik Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 you two are acting like having this one computer go down would anger god, and he would smite you for it or something. trust me, if you don't need raid's and watercooling to keep a computer running... i have a celeron 700 that runs like a tank. a very slow tank, but the hard drive has yet to die, the cpu has not overheated once, etc. it's an hp computer we picked up several years ago from wal-mart for $500 (hey, it was a REALLY good deal at the time... gotta love those early bird christmas sales). anyway, the point is, just because you want a "rep" with all the church folk as "the" computer guy, doesn't mean the church wants to pay for it, or that anybody will care anyway. what happens if you do go watercooling, and then it springs a leak? then the church has to pay for a whole new computer, and you look like an idiot. not like you don't already, for wanting to make a church spend several hundred dollars on something that only needs to run powerpoint presentations. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 omg you people are ****** up in the head. get a duron 1.x ghz, with a 40gig hdd, a cheap mini-atx nforce2 board and use the integrated gfx, 256megs of ram and windows 2k pro. damn, watercooling? wtf is wrong with you? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellc Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 ,Jun 17 2004, 23:23]They are showing paltry powerpoint presentations. A celeron 1.0Ghz, 128MB Ram, and 20gb hard drive would be overkill for doing that. i take Rob's side on this completely. he doesn't need water cooling or such a high end processor. all he needs is an average, lower-spec computer if he's only showing slides, etc. nothing will destroy your computer unless YOU do something to it, or maybe a power failure...but you can get ups or something for that. install an nt based os and you should be fine for os stability. just have an updated virus scanner and spyware scanner as well for stuff like that. firewall too :p if you're planning to have intenet connection. your computer wont crap out on you if you dont screw it up yourself. and yes, 128 mb of ram will do powerpoint presentations fine as well as integrated video/sound/everything else..no need for water cooling lol geez.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 omg you people are ****** up in the head. get a duron 1.x ghz, with a 40gig hdd, a cheap mini-atx nforce2 board and use the integrated gfx, 256megs of ram and windows 2k pro. damn, watercooling? wtf is wrong with you? Alrigghhttttyyyy.... I got 3 People backin me up!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 ClearTweak is a must-have for ANY Windows XP installation, especially one that will be shown on-screen. Just trust me and do it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted June 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted June 18, 2004 ,Jun 17 2004, 23:31] :blink: A church does not need watercooling.. No, a church needs holy water cooling. After all blessed water runs 10% cooler... Just run some tubing to the baptismal font. Cool the PC and make a nice hot tub for the newly annointed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 At my church, I create the presentations each week. The PC I purchased on eBay was a Dell Dimension 4100, P3 933, 512MB, 40GB, DVD, CD-RW, GeForce FX5200 128MB. Good enough for a church of 1500 people each Sunday. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 ClearTweak is a must-have for ANY Windows XP installation, especially one that will be shown on-screen. Just trust me and do it. he dosent need to use cleartweak, he can use ms's utility. the only thing i dont like about ms's is that you need ie to use it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Right, that's why he should use ClearTweak.....am I missing something here? :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 ClearTweak is a must-have for ANY Windows XP installation, especially one that will be shown on-screen. Just trust me and do it. What is so great about this ClearTweak Crap!? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellc Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 At my church, I create the presentations each week. The PC I purchased on eBay was a Dell Dimension 4100, P3 933, 512MB, 40GB, DVD, CD-RW, GeForce FX5200 128MB.Good enough for a church of 1500 people each Sunday. how about giving me some of that ram? :shifty: heh..j/k What is so great about this ClearTweak Crap!? thats what i dont get either :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 yeah, lol ;) The Home for ClearTweak -- get explainations there: http://www.ioisland.com/cleartweak/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 what kind of churches do you guys go to :wacko: needing watercooling, RAID, and 64bit :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Right, that's why he should use ClearTweak.....am I missing something here? :rolleyes: because you have to install it. i prefer ms's. its better. i apreciate the work you put into cleartweak, but stop advertising it in everythread. meanwhile, GET FIREFOX!!!!!1!!11 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 ClearTweak is one EXE....no installation.....what's up with you getting all upset about it? sheesh. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeldicky Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Okay, well, I guess you win.... :) I'll stand by my own (and obviously unique) opinion. It isn't necessarily about speed. It's about reliability and longevity. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 what kind of churches do you guys go to :wacko: needing watercooling, RAID, and 64bit :laugh: :laugh: That's what I'm wondering ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/179430-church-pc/page/2/#findComment-2306997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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