IE vs Firefox

[marcoo]

I?m looking for better & secure browser.

Even Firefox has some nice features like tabs, popup kill, and DOM Inspector, I'm still not sure if Firefox really better (especially more secure) than IE?

What do you think about it?

[un0]

I think this topic has been exausted, try a search.

[Hankyone]

*sigh* another firefoxvsie thread *sigh*

get firefox , it is MORE secure than ie

[Redestium]

Oh wow, search it man.

[BxBoy]

definately FireFox (Y)

[oik]

it's a matter of personal preference. try them both, pick the one you like more.

[MxxCon]

i'd like to take this opportunity to say that i think 7UP is the best soft drink

i also don't like BIC pens

and my tv is kinda broken..sometimes it loses vertical sync once in a while

[nuka_t]

it's a matter of personal preference. try them both, pick the one you like more.

no its not. there is nothing in IE making it worth using over firefox. myie2/opera/firefox are the only browsers even worth considering. firefox comes out on top of course...

[marcoo]

But is FF really more secure than IE? At least IE has patches from time to time.

[WigglesTheFish]

i'd like to take this opportunity to say that i think 7UP is the best soft drink

i like mountain dew... its more secure...

[BryanChung]

Instead of IE, you can try MyIE2 :)

[bach_m]

firefox doesn't have all the exploits, and doesn't need patches.

and technically, a new version is released daily

[Fotix]

But is FF really more secure than IE? At least IE has patches from time to time.

Why wait for MS to get around to patching something when you can program your own patches, or pay someone else to patch it, or grab a new security patch and patch the old stable milestone source with it. That's one advantage with open source. Nearly every hour the code has changed for you to grab the source and compile the newest version yourself or a person can download one of the official binaries or one the third-party specialty binaries.

[Raum]

no its not. there is nothing in IE making it worth using over firefox. myie2/opera/firefox are the only browsers even worth considering. firefox comes out on top of course...

If you configure it properly, IE is more secure than FF. And with a frontend like MyIE2 it has all those spiffy features like tabbed browsing. There are plenty of things IE has over FF.

-Windows Integration. You can't type www.neowin.net in explorer then have it bring the page up in FF.

-Windows Update. FF can't do this last time I checked.

-Non Gecko engine. Some people don't like watching the page shift ass backwards 5 times before the page is readable.

-Comes by default on nearly every Windows system out there. Meaning you can go to a library or school and use a browser you are comfortable with right away, without having to download and install FF, something you may not be allowed to do.

-Better FTP support than FF.

So quit talking out of your ass. I'm a long-time firefox user, but I'll never defend ignorance and idiocy.

Firefox may have more exploits than IE. IE is just the most common browser, so malicious code is designed to get passed IE, hence more stuff gets through IE, like Spywawre, than does FF. Why would a spyware maker code spyware designed for Firefox instead of IE, unless he wanted to give FF users a hard time? There's no reason, because he'd get his spyware on more computers using an IE based code. So when 95% of internet users use FF, then we can talk exploits.

[MxxCon]

If you configure it properly, IE is more secure than FF.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's a good one!

there nothing you can configure in IE to stop buffer overflow exploits. there is nothing you can configure in IE to make MS release critical hotfixes faster.

-Windows Update.  FF can't do this last time I checked.

that's like saying you can use diesel car becuase gas companies won't sell you diesel fuel.

well no ****! obviously it's in MS interest to support only their product!

-Non Gecko engine.  Some people don't like watching the page shift ass backwards 5 times before the page is readable.

HUH?

-Comes by default on nearly every Windows system out there.  Meaning you can go to a library or school and use a browser you are comfortable with right away, without having to download and install FF, something you may not be allowed to do.

that doesn't make it "BETTER"

just becuase they give you "food" in prison, doesn't mean you have to eat same **** at home.

-Better FTP support than FF.

right :rolleyes: that's a good one

So quit talking out of your ass.  I'm a long-time firefox user, but I'll never defend ignorance and idiocy.

look in the mirror to see who's talking about of their ass.

Firefox may have more exploits than IE.

it very well may, however you won't have to rely on MS for up to 6month to release fix to critical flaws. with firefox(or any opensource project when it comes to it) fix will be publicly available virtually instantly with the announcement of any flaws.

Why would a spyware maker code spyware designed for Firefox instead of IE, unless he wanted to give FF users a hard time?  There's no reason, because he'd get his spyware on more computers using an IE based code.

um no...that's totally wrong. you can't execute code on firefox w/o user's confirmation. same can not be said about IE.

you seem to be talking about all the missing bad stuff in firefox instead of talking about all the existing bad stuff in IE :no:

[uniacidz]

i'd like to take this opportunity to say that i think 7UP is the best soft drink

i also don't like BIC pens

and my tv is kinda broken..sometimes it loses vertical sync once in a while

BIC always gets that big clunk of ink and it smudges all the time. I agree entirely.

My TV is ok, but i would suggest maybe taking yout TV to a repair man, if its worth fixing of course.

But really, 7UP???? That shocking man. Sprite is better :p

[MxxCon]

sprite gives me bitter after-taste.

this tv is just over 10years old and i don't really feel like repairing it

and new tvs are so bloody expensive..i just can't justify myself spending ~$1.5k on a new set

[Raum]

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's a good one!

there nothing you can configure in IE to stop buffer overflow exploits. there is nothing you can configure in IE to make MS release critical hotfixes faster.

that's like saying you can use diesel car becuase gas companies won't sell you diesel fuel.

well no ****! obviously it's in MS interest to support only their product!

HUH?

that doesn't make it "BETTER"

just becuase they give you "food" in prison, doesn't mean you have to eat same **** at home.

right :rolleyes: that's a good one

look in the mirror to see who's talking about of their ass.

it very well may, however you won't have to rely on MS for up to 6month to release fix to critical flaws. with firefox(or any opensource project when it comes to it) fix will be publicly available virtually instantly with the announcement of any flaws.

um no...that's totally wrong. you can't execute code on firefox w/o user's confirmation. same can not be said about IE.

you seem to be talking about all the missing bad stuff in firefox instead of talking about all the existing bad stuff in IE :no:

1. You can configure safety zones, block cookies, active-x controls, block javascript and so on. Just because you're ignorant of a program doesn't mean it doesn't have said features. Open up IE and prove it to yourself.

2. That's irrelevent, it's a feature IE has that FF lacks, plain and simple. Motives matter not.

3. FF uses the Gecko engine, which renders pages differently than IE's engine, which is Mosaic I believe. If you don't know what Gecko is, you're truely too ignorant to argue over the two programs. Basically, the way Gecko renders pages, often times they shift and move across the page before forming the page, while IE has the layout set then loads pictures and stuff. While Gecko may be an overall better engine, this issue in in favor of IE, it just loads things in a prettier and more functional way.

4. I didn't say it made it better, I said it was something that IE has that FF doesn't. How many times have you walked into the library and been able to use Firefox on one of there computers right from the get go? With IE you can do this, with FF you can't, therefore it's something IE has and FF doesn't. Can you comprehend that concept or not?

5. Many people, including me, actively use FTP, so when they have to use another program than FF to get some FTP's to work, yes, it is an issue.

6. Actually, I'm backing up every single one of my claims. How about the first point about security, you can open up Internet Options yourself and see that I am arguing with fact in this matter. I'm far from talking out of my ass.

7. Yes, open source does have that advantadge, but MS is usually pretty timely about serious fixes. I honestly don't think MS cares that much about whether you get an occassional popup or unwanted cookie, so I don't see why they'd spend their time on such issues.

8. So when I go to a page that gives me a popup that didn't ask for my permission I must not be using FF right? Or when I see a flash ad, I didn't get asked for that, yet I'm using Firefox, so what gives? In IE you can block all sorts of things if you want.

I'm talking about the things FF lacks because it isn't a target for malicious code, IE is, therefore you can't adequately compare their security based on things like spyware and viruses spreading through them. That's like comparing a tiny little island with a 50 person militia and a superpower country like the United States with Nuclear weapons. The US gets attacked by a terrorist and the island has a drunk man beat his wife, then someone says the island obviously has better security than the United States.

It's just ridiculous to try and even compare them in that sort of fashion.

[Hankyone]

i'd like to take this opportunity to say that i think 7UP is the best soft drink

i also don't like BIC pens

and my tv is kinda broken..sometimes it loses vertical sync once in a while

:D lmao!!!!!

[Fotix]

You know what's worse than BIC pens, Mxx? The cheapy Bic razors. For use by masochists only.

[Raum]

You know what's worse than BIC pens, Mxx? The cheapy Bic razors. For use by masochists only.

Our school would force you to dry shave with those ****ty things if you got caught with facial hair. Good thing I went to the school board and got that rule changed for my Senior Year, I started getting so many cuts that I just kept an electric in my locker for when I got caught with facial hair.

[ozgeek]

-Comes by default on nearly every Windows system out there.  Meaning you can go to a library or school and use a browser you are comfortable with right away, without having to download and install FF, something you may not be allowed to do.

It is possible to run Firefox on any computer if you create a thumb drive install of Firefox. I think I saw on mozilla.org, that you can put a install of Firefox on a thumb drive and set it to run when you plug it in to the computer using the profile that's on the thumb drive. I haven't tired it but I think that's how you can use firefox anywhere you are.

[Raum]

Yeah, I did that with a 20 gig USB drive since we couldn't install stuff at school. Besides the point though.

[fishie]

yea i used to do that at college, on my cruzer 256 drive. i just copied the full folder over and it worked fine.

[configure Veteran]

2. That's irrelevent, it's a feature IE has that FF lacks, plain and simple. Motives matter not.

Fx 0.9 has Update engines for itself, its theme, and extensions.

3. FF uses the Gecko engine, which renders pages differently than IE's engine, which is Mosaic I believe. If you don't know what Gecko is, you're truely too ignorant to argue over the two programs. Basically, the way Gecko renders pages, often times they shift and move across the page before forming the page, while IE has the layout set then loads pictures and stuff. While Gecko may be an overall better engine, this issue in in favor of IE, it just loads things in a prettier and more functional way.

Personally, I couldn't careless on how it loads up unless I have to spend 10 minutes watching it :p

[em_te]

Why wait for MS to get around to patching something when you can program your own patches, or pay someone else to patch it, or grab a new security patch and patch the old stable milestone source with it. That's one advantage with open source. Nearly every hour the code has changed for you to grab the source and compile the newest version yourself or a person can download one of the official binaries or one the third-party specialty binaries.

Speak English to me please.