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well, I'm 31 now, but when I was 16 I had the phedz visit my house for

some pentagon and nasa antics revolved around tymnet and telenet.

I think telenet was later renamed sprintnet.

Anyone remember those networks?

And btw this is in America. My tag says Australia cuz that's where I live

now and not because of those incidents ;)

I was suspended from school after an incident with a bbc micro, these days I make a living understanding PC's and networks in a business enviroment.

If I wore a hat it would be grey, but anyway, this is interesting reading...

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The Hacker Manifesto

The Mentor's Last Words

Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"... Damn kids. They're all alike. But did you, in your three- piece psychology and 1950's techno brain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have moulded him? I am a hacker, enter my world.

Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me... Damn underachiever. They're all alike. I'm in junior high or high school or college. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..." Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.

I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me.. Or thinks I'm a smart ass.. Or doesn't like teaching and think it shouldn't be here... Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.

And then it happened... a door opened to a world...rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetence's is sought... a board is found. "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all... Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike... You bet your ass we're all alike...we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak...the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but they are like drops of water in the desert.

This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin colour, without nationality, without religious bias...and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

The Mentor

the oxygen group has always prided itself at being

White Hat Hackers.

I'd say that our creation of a white virus is our success as being the first group in the world to create a script that

actually searches out other viruses on pc's and removes them but spreads itself like a virus.

(later seen as a 'disinfectant' for HPC)

Anybody who does anything to 'harm' someone else should not be supported.

Then again, if it werent for them, MS wouldn't be releasing SP2 would they lol.

your only a hacker if your told you are one

and hackers dont use 'sub7' or script kiddy stuff like that. but i belive the real term your looking for is Crackers, hackers hack hardware and what not, crackers crack windows and make the virii, the press just calls them hackers because thats what the masses know the crackers as

No, I'm not but unfortunetely people think I am just because I got into a teacher's computer through the school network and gave some failing people and a few close friends a copy of the final exam. I have gotten into a couple of email accounts of students and teachers but I never read/change their stuff or anything (why the fcuk would I care who writes what to them :rolleyes:) and just send them an email to themselves using their account telling them to change their password and security questions asap and what to do to ensure it doesn't happen again. :)

oh daer, hes going to DDoS me :o phwoar, dont click that button

i would be impressed if you actually wrote the network clients and servers that performed the DDoS (its really not that hard)

on another note, a friend of a friend of a friend of mine got admin privlages (key logger) and found a few porno videos and pictures on a teachers shared drive

he got suspended for selling the videos to other students :p

Get things straight.

Hackers are the good guys of the internet, they find the exploits ( Security holes ) and alert the system administrator. But due to the media changing this image people look at hackers as they are horrible geeks who do damage. WRONG

Crackers are the ones who do damage !

I am a x-cracker, i was a very bad boy when i was younger ;)

There is also script kiddies who ARE NOT hackers they use hackers scripts to try and ' hack ' or ' crack ; into a persons computer.

  smp said:
well i just dd**ed someone.... dont want the fbi looking this up :ninja:

uh huh i am sure you did ;)

With how many DOS command prompts open with ping -l going ! HAHA your a script kiddie.

By the way have you heard of TGS Security group? They have over 20 million Denial of Service bots, i would keep your mouth shut unless you want me to post your email onto there forum and get it ****** over.

Stop being a noob smp, capish?

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