Schwa83 Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17495 THE HEAD OF ATI'S PR machinery, a nice British lad, captured and currently held in the Canadian wastes, has responded to our story claiming that Doom 3 is dominated by Nvidia. Our sources claim that ATI is doing something about performance on Doom 3 but that it hasn't done anything to its Open GL driver for almost a year now. The ATI lad confirmed these claims. It's certainly time to do something about it as Doom 3 is close to materialisation and released in just a week. The ATI apparatchik told us that we could expect some performance boost with a new driver release but he was not specific when it will release the mighty Doom 3 driver. There were no really significant games last year which used Open GL. It's scary that if we don't have people like John Carmack with Doom and Tim Sweeney with the Unreal engine we might lose Open GL to the extremely popular DirectX programming. Two guys have stood up to Microsoft. They like to make their games work on Mac OS and Linux as well and there is a market there, not big, but at least significant. The good thing to know is that driver is coming and ATI might get closer or even faster then Nvidia, it would be safe to say that it will at least get much closer performance wise than it's able to do now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 ATi has Half-Life 2. nVidia has Doom 3. In the long run, ATi will still profit more since HL2 seems to be much more popular. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANova Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 It's scary that if we don't have people like John Carmack with Doom and Tim Sweeney with the Unreal engine we might lose Open GL to the extremely popular DirectX programming. The Unreal engines are D3D, not OGL. UE3 is based entirely on DX9 SM2/3. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PukiMan Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 ATi has Half-Life 2. nVidia has Doom 3. In the long run, ATi will still profit more since HL2 seems to be much more popular. Yeah but Nvidia perform good on OpenGL and Direct3D. Can't say this about ATI And i know, i have ATI 9600 XT. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
christracy Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 if HL2 has multiplayer gaming on the scale of CounterStrike ATi will do fine as people will flock to it since D3 is limited in that regards. but any boost to ATi GL performance is a good thing! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted July 28, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2004 ATi has Half-Life 2. nVidia has Doom 3. In the long run, ATi will still profit more since HL2 seems to be much more popular. ATI will profit loads more if they optimised their drivers for Doom III. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3ta Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Well ATi better do something about fixing it's latest offerings with Doom3 otherwise - asta la vista ATi, I'll switch back to nVidia. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdave Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 yeah, cant wait to see what ati can do with it's drivers.....it's about time ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bartekpl Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 They will go up with the next drivers. :| that does not sound good! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandbacon Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 ATi has always had great drivers, usually not buggy like many nvidia ones, i cant wait for a Doom 3 performance boost, my specs are somewhat decent, but i want some silky smooth gameplay Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoNuTs Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Ooops, ATi suddenly realized they could make some quick $$$ if they started to improve their drivers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandbacon Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 i'd do it, good strategy, although kinda (really) late, let's wait until weeks after the game is released, and everyone has already upgraded to nvidia to create better drivers optimized for doom 3 engine Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PukiMan Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 ATi has always had great drivers, usually not buggy like many nvidia ones, i cant wait for a Doom 3 performance boost, my specs are somewhat decent, but i want some silky smooth gameplay Hahahahahahahaha ROFL man You killing me :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted July 28, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2004 Im pretty sure this is just software side, old ati drivers had better o-gl support and made o-gl games run just as good, hence the recent o-gl ati hacks that are popping out around the net Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverUnknown Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 ATi has always had great drivers, usually not buggy like many nvidia ones, i cant wait for a Doom 3 performance boost, my specs are somewhat decent, but i want some silky smooth gameplay uh no ati has not always had good drivers. remember a few years back? well anyway this is good news for ati owners. hopefully you guys will get a decent increase performance in open gl Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted July 28, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2004 i'd do it, good strategy, although kinda (really) late, let's wait until weeks after the game is released, and everyone has already upgraded to nvidia to create better drivers optimized for doom 3 engine Man, I love ATI, I only use ATI cards, but that was just wrong, the open gl support in their drivers sucks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaroniekins Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 HahahahahahahahaROFL man You killing me :rofl: hes rite nvidia drivers blow, but i think that was cause the FX cards sucked at a physical level picking a card based on 1 game is retarded..especially if its doom 3..hello no multi = boring once hl2 is out everyone will be like whats doom Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoNuTs Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 ,Jul 29 2004, 00:26] Man, I love ATI, I only use ATI cards, but that was just wrong, the open gl support in their drivers sucks. It's sad they only started to really work on the "problem" when cash is involved :rolleyes: Better OpenGL support should have been implanted a LOOONG time ago! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted July 28, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2004 It's sad they only started to really work on the "problem" when cash is involved:rolleyes:: Better OpenGL support should have been implanted a LOOONG time ago! In fact they started working with the Neverwinter nights performance fiasco, but something happened and those optimizations were canned :huh:: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaroniekins Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 ,Jul 28 2004, 22:32] In fact they started working with the Neverwinter nights performance fiasco, but something happened and those optimizations were canned :huh: it might be due tot he fact OPENGL is now a minority it is sad though, i would like to see opengl get a boost although it doesnt really matter to me doom 3 will be a distant memory once hl2 is out, i mean DISTANT Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoNuTs Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 So, shouldn't the companies provide support even though it's a minority? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PukiMan Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 hes ritenvidia drivers blow, but i think that was cause the FX cards sucked at a physical level picking a card based on 1 game is retarded..especially if its doom 3..hello no multi = boring once hl2 is out everyone will be like whats doom Before i moved to ATI i had Nvidia And all the years i had Geforce 2 MX 400, i didn't had a singal problem with the drviers. Now i have ATI like for 4 months, and all the drivers have problems with some games. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted July 28, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2004 So, shouldn't the companies provide support even though it's a minority? I agree here, even tho its a minority its not a small minority, after all, there still plenty of games that use open gl Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvme Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 ..hello no multi = boring doom3 does have multiplayer.. and if you're refering to the 4 player limit.. that is only on the maps that come with the game.. the engine does not have a limit.. wake up Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus- Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 well the replay value is in hl2 with the extensive community and mod support. if doom 3 goes the same way quake 3 did then i expect to see much of the 3rd party support invested into retail games that use the engine (star trek, alice, etc.) and not heavy into free downloadable mods. Which is the gaming community naturally going to go to based on those 2 factors? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/196130-ati-promises-doom-3-performance-boost/#findComment-584254951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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