TrickFinlay2 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 agreed Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioscheine Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 you spent a year, making that...... :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destian Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I think this should be moved to the auction forums. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrblack Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 @Winswy, man dont listen to the flaming, you made a good work, im not into paying either, but i think is a nice job..... looking forward to your next releases.... keep it up Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 well, in MY opinion it looks like a hundred others at themexp.org, not worth any money at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 * rings the bell* :shifty: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 aren't those chaninja icons? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
murderdoll Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 i wonder why you sell it when there is better FREE themes @wing. i think you should do a move and pawn this one :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl@sh Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 aren't those chaninja icons? The in the start menu are for screenshot purposes. The theme came with My PC, My Docs, Network places, IE, and full and empty bins, in 4 colors. nice too... Ive stopped downloading from ThemeXP a long time ago but when i was downloading there i never found anything of this quality. Give the guy a break. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 why not use his own icons in the start menu? from here it looks like he's trying to sell the chaninja icons along with his theme. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winswy Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 why not use his own icons in the start menu? from here it looks like he's trying to sell the chaninja icons along with his theme. no, just using them, the icons featured on the desktop are mine. Just to clarify. :) Thank you to those of you providing positive feedback. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriz Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Its alright i suppose, if it was free, id probably download and chuck in my windows directory, but wouldnt use it. So in other words, its nice, but i wouldnt pay for it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightstar Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 OK, thought I would jump on the bandwagon here. First of all, yes, I have my styles on ThemeXP (along with thousands of other authors). No, I do not own ThemeXP, I work for FileSubmit.com (they own ThemeXP) maintaining the forums and doing submission approvals. That is my enitre capacity at the site. Do I like what they are doing? No, I do not, and I am slowly trying to change things for the better I hope. In a few days there will be a subscription based site for downloading files that are not wrapped. It will be $10.00 a year for 1,000 downloads. This was an idea submitted by users, so do not think it was my idea or anyone's at FileSubmit. I do however support the subscription site idea if it keeps SpyWare and AdWare out of the downloads, and the money is used to support the site itself. We are (or should all be) professionals here, the works of vStyler (Winswy) are of excellent quality, and neither he nor I are 'Minimalistic' stylers. If you want to see a beautiful piece of work, just look at the upcoming 'Gizmo' theme at my site if you care to visit. This style is indeed a work of art, complete with mouseover animations and superb colors. I very seldom come to NeoWin, mainly for just these types of reasons, the bickering, name calling and lack of professional attitude is more than one can take. I will stay in my own little world where decency and integrity are honored. As far as vStyler selling his work, more power to him! I have begun doing the same myself, bandwidth and keeping a site up aren't cheap! The way I figure it, I have a right to make a few bucks off my hard work also, and no one out there has the right to tell me anything different, period! Enough said, now back to the 'real world of art', because I certainly have never found any here. :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCA Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 its okay its nice keep up the good work Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 OK, thought I would jump on the bandwagon here. First of all, yes, I have my styles on ThemeXP (along with thousands of other authors). No, I do not own ThemeXP, I work for FileSubmit.com (they own ThemeXP) maintaining the forums and doing submission approvals. That is my enitre capacity at the site. Do I like what they are doing? No, I do not, and I am slowly trying to change things for the better I hope. In a few days there will be a subscription based site for downloading files that are not wrapped. It will be $10.00 a year for 1,000 downloads. This was an idea submitted by users, so do not think it was my idea or anyone's at FileSubmit. I do however support the subscription site idea if it keeps SpyWare and AdWare out of the downloads, and the money is used to support the site itself.We are (or should all be) professionals here, the works of vStyler (Winswy) are of excellent quality, and neither he nor I are 'Minimalistic' stylers. If you want to see a beautiful piece of work, just look at the upcoming 'Gizmo' theme at my site if you care to visit. This style is indeed a work of art, complete with mouseover animations and superb colors. I very seldom come to NeoWin, mainly for just these types of reasons, the bickering, name calling and lack of professional attitude is more than one can take. I will stay in my own little world where decency and integrity are honored. As far as vStyler selling his work, more power to him! I have begun doing the same myself, bandwidth and keeping a site up aren't cheap! The way I figure it, I have a right to make a few bucks off my hard work also, and no one out there has the right to tell me anything different, period! Enough said, now back to the 'real world of art', because I certainly have never found any here. :( Well focken said (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
msg43 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I think you should be band you say some really rude things. The vs ok. Might use it for only a few days but hey I won't pay for it and expcially when you flam half of everyone that posted in this topic Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winswy Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 spoken like a the professional you are...Lightstar. Heres to entrepenuerialism ! :beer: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winswy Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 I think you should be band you say some really rude things. The vs ok. Might use it for only a few days but hey I won't pay for it and expcially when you flam half of everyone that posted in this topic umm..wanna name the "half the people in the thread" that I flamed" ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lillitnn92 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 We are (or should all be) professionals hereAs far as vStyler selling his work, more power to him! I have begun doing the same myself, bandwidth and keeping a site up aren't cheap! The way I figure it, I have a right to make a few bucks off my hard work also, and no one out there has the right to tell me anything different, period! although i am not a "skinner", i do consider myself an artist to an extent. your points are very good ones and i whole heartledly agree. i like the looks of his work there, but i would not use it personally. if i wanted it bad enough, i would be more than willing to help a "kindred spirt" out though. he made a point of telling us why he is selling it in his initial post and that should have been the key for some, but the complaints still came. why?!?! anymore these days people just want everything free and when they can't get it free, they get ****ed and find ways to steal it. there's got to be a happy medium. i've spent many hours in front of my computer making sig banners, site banners and such for free for friends. sometimes i do wonder if i should have charged atleast a small feee for my work. i say sell away if you can!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
msg43 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 umm..wanna name the "half the people in the thread" that I flamed" ? any one that said they don't want to pay or they don't like the style. Just be kind. More people might then consider about making a donation for the vs. Maybe like 5 instead of 10, etc... Thank you to those of you providing positive feedback. How about everyone that said they didn't like it, etc....? You could at least said something. You might also want to do donation and give people out the vs if they donate like 3 or more Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584652987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winswy Posted October 1, 2004 Author Share Posted October 1, 2004 @ lillitnn92 could NOT have said that better, im willing to bet the people here complaining that have jobs wouldnt dig ditches, hammer nails or admin a system or two for free, so why should it be so different for those working hard on their graphics? Sure there may be better free themes but i always get more satisfaction from paying for something myself than getting it free. and seriously folks is 10 bucks that much to ask if its something that u want. i know in the past ive paid for windowblinds themes and felt very good about getting some quality work and helping support the artist themselves. As i posted from the beginning, if u disagree or dont find the style visually appealing then so be it but give us out here struggling the oppurtunity to advance ourselves with our work. Im not looking for donations or handouts, its priced that way because i think it has that much value for the labor i have put forward to make it. Thankyou for that suggestion tho. and to anyone i may have offended unknowingly (except for wing) accept my apologies. It takes a big man to cry, but it takes and even bigger man to laugh at that man. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584653010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chavo Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Have to add my two cents here. First of all I would have no problem whatsoever paying for a theme that I truly enjoyed. I don't think I would buy this particular theme, but that is beside the point. You obviously have put a lot of work into it and deserve to be rewarded. I myself am in a similar situation, actually two situations in which I create things and give them away. I play in a band and create music that is free to download off of our site. I hope to someday make music in the industry, but I realize the chances of that. I also know what it's like to pour your heart and soul into something artistic. It's a labor of love for sure but I sure would like to give up my day job eventually. I'm also a member of the dev team for e107 (which the lightstar.com site runs (Y) ). And give my time and limited coding talents to this project, also freely. So anyway my point is that if you don't agree with what Winswy is doing, then by God don't buy the theme. Hit the little back button and get on to flaming somewhere else. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584653034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightstar Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Have to add my two cents here. First of all I would have no problem whatsoever paying for a theme that I truly enjoyed. I don't think I would buy this particular theme, but that is beside the point. You obviously have put a lot of work into it and deserve to be rewarded.I myself am in a similar situation, actually two situations in which I create things and give them away. I play in a band and create music that is free to download off of our site. I hope to someday make music in the industry, but I realize the chances of that. I also know what it's like to pour your heart and soul into something artistic. It's a labor of love for sure but I sure would like to give up my day job eventually. I'm also a member of the dev team for e107 (which the lightstar.com site runs (Y) ). And give my time and limited coding talents to this project, also freely. So anyway my point is that if you don't agree with what Winswy is doing, then by God don't buy the theme. Hit the little back button and get on to flaming somewhere else. Well said chavo! Would you mind emailing me on an e107 matter? Thanks! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584653284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiveMasterT Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 if you like it, then buy it. if you don't then don't buy it. simple as that. if you have a problem with paying for themes, then go download the better free themes you find elsewhere. i personally prefer the standard windows classic look... but im not bashing the artist for it... damn. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584653288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imtoomuch Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 I very seldom come to NeoWin, mainly for just these types of reasons, the bickering, name calling and lack of professional attitude is more than one can take. You summed up 90+% of the Neowin userbase in that one sentence. It's a shame because this used to be a friendlier site. Too bad more people don't get banned. Anyway, it's a nice vs. Not my style either, but most skins and themes aren't my style. You have every right to sell it, but people also have every right to not agree with the selling of themes. You shouldn't be flamed for selling the theme. That should be against the rules here, but it's not and people just run their mouths because they know they won't get a beating like they would if they talked as much in real life. There are some "famous" WindowBlinds skinners who put out crap and then sell it and this theme is definitely better than most of their stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/224471-vs-racerx/page/2/#findComment-584653987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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