Download Creation vs Evolution movies here

[JimF]

This is good stuff.

http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=real_video

Note: These 7 movies are about 100 MB each all in RealVideo format. I recommend that you use GetRight or Gozilla to download them and burn them on a CD.

Read article --> The Scientific Case Against Evolution

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/columnist...cke08-20-01.htm

[wildliquid]

why would you download 700Mb's on creation vs evolution??? if you believe in creation you believe in it if you dont you dont im not wasting my time downloading that possibly cause im on a 56k modem hehe

[JimF]

That's what I thought myself. before I saw these movies. I learned so much from them. After watching this stuff you will have no doubt whatsoever that evolution is one big hoax with no evidence to support it whatsoever.

[EidrahS]

easy...just learn about ISLAM to realise that Evolution is a hoax

[nomis_nehc]

Going to download it and check it out myself.

[Vinh]

the link is slow... anyone mirror it or even better convert it to mpg or avi, i dont want to install real player :(

[nomis_nehc]

you are right. it's not exactly the fastest...

what you can do is just use a download manager, queue it all up and set them all to download. Takes about 1 hour max.

[tauf]

Originally posted by wildliquid

why would you download 700Mb's on creation vs evolution??? if you believe in creation you believe in it if you dont you dont im not wasting my time downloading that possibly cause im on a 56k modem hehe

Actually I saw all of these videos on tape over a year ago, and I learned quite a bit more, even though I have always believed in Creationism. It will only serve to strengthen your knowledge if you believe in Creation. If you believe in Evolution, I'm pretty sure these videos will greatly weaken your faith, if you're open to the facts and scientific explanations.

As you'll see in these videos, the whole world and all of science supports Creationism.

p.s. if somebody has a fast ftp server, I have all seven of these files and can upload them.

[Tim Dorr Veteran]

yes, let's watch a one-sided view without letting the other side speak, then you can prove that side is right.... :right: :right: :right:

why not provide some evolutionary video links for us? rather than proposing one solution... :p

[Vinh]

like to send to me?

[JimF]

timdorr: These videos are not one sided. they show you what evolutionists teach and then arguments against those teachings.

The nice thing is that it shows you things that evolutionists have been hiding for years.

For those with slow connection- what you can do is just use a download manager, queue it all up and set them all to download and let it go ever night.

[nomis_nehc]

and make sure you download will stop and resume once it gets slow. I am on a 512k line but after awhile the speed drops unless you stop/pause and resume.

Or maybe it's just me...

[Tim Dorr Veteran]

Originally posted by JimF

timdorr: These videos are not one sided. they show you what evolutionists teach and then arguments against those teachings.

The nice thing is that it shows you things that evolutionists have been hiding for years.

For those with slow connection- what you can do is just use a download manager, queue it all up and set them all to download and let it go ever night.

already found one problem with his arguement. the laws of conservation of angular momentum. ok, imagine two bodies of eliplical shape near enough to each other. They are both rotating in in the same direction as the law would state, however, if they were to make contact, they would hit each other and bounce off in the opposite rotational direction.

confused? imagine these lines are rotating counter-clockwise:

_____

_____

if the connect and hit each other, they will bounce and change angular direction. so his proposal fails.

One other thing he claims evolution is a religion just as much as creationism. this is not true. evolution is a theory. as such it can be eventually proven or disproven, such is not the case with creationism.

I'm an agnostic, so I'm not saying that a god cannot exist. In fact, I have more of the belief that evolutionism exists within a god-created space (Read the Rama book series for an example of what I'm talking about). I just think creationism and evolution shouldn't bother fighting each other and should bother working toward proving their existence.

A lot less angry people if we were able to work that way :D

[othernutrient]

Just how reliable of a source of information is Dr. Kent "Dino" Hovind?

http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/bartelt...vind_thesis.htm

Just how sound are his arguments?

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dav...rth/index.shtml

What's the scoop on Doc Dino?

http://www.geocities.com/kenthovind/

How genuine is his offer of 250,000 dollars to disprove him? How much does he squirm under pressure?

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/9917/vlaard/

Do you know the differences between evolution and creationism?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/wic.html

Do you even know what evolution is?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-miscon...onceptions.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-...to-biology.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

Not yet convinced on Hovind being a fraud? See how his ilk fare.

http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/gish.html

Still not convinced?

http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/kent_ho...hovind_page.htm

Yep, that guy sure is a winner. I wish I could get a fake doctorate and make false claims that cannot hold up under any close scrutiny.

One should never take what one sees at face value. If you want to watch and believe everything in the creation videos listed, feel free. If wish to truly hold both evolution and creationism up to scrutiny and determine for yourself, based on the evidence for and against, then I suggest you read, and always remember, one belief has its roots in the unknowable, another in the tangible.

Think for yourselves.

[semifamous]

Kent Hovind's major complaint is this:

Evolution is taught in public schools as fact.

Creation is not taught in public schools as a possibility.

There *is* still a debate between Evolution and Creation.

You can't prove that God doesn't exist.

If you can prove that God doesn't exist, and that He could not have possibly created the world, then he'll give you $250,000.

But, again, you can't prove God doesn't exist.

Since you can't prove God doesn't exist, you can't prove creation is false.

Since you can't prove creation is false, it should not be ignored in public schools.

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That is *his* opinion in a nutshell.

Personally, I agree with him. Creation should not be ignored in public school. It should be at least mentioned as a possibility.

If Creation could be proven false, then there wouldn't be any discussion going on here about this at all, would there?

[othernutrient]

Originally posted by semifamous

Kent Hovind's major complaint is this:

Evolution is taught in public schools as fact.

Creation is not taught in public schools as a possibility.

There *is* still a debate between Evolution and Creation.

You can't prove that God doesn't exist.

If you can prove that God doesn't exist, and that He could not have possibly created the world, then he'll give you $250,000.

But, again, you can't prove God doesn't exist.

Since you can't prove God doesn't exist, you can't prove creation is false.

Since you can't prove creation is false, it should not be ignored in public schools.

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That is *his* opinion in a nutshell.

Personally, I agree with him. Creation should not be ignored in public school. It should be at least mentioned as a possibility.

If Creation could be proven false, then there wouldn't be any discussion going on here about this at all, would there?

You can agree with him, but logically, his point is not valid.

You cannot prove a negative; the onus of proof is on the person making the claim. If Kent Hovind wants to claim that a god exists and that this god created the world, then he must prove it. Simply put, as you have said, he has not, and cannot.

If we were to put the burden of proof upon someone else, then one could just as easily state "There are invisible purple elephants that fly through the sky! Prove they don't exist! You can't prove they don't exist, so they do!" What good would that do us? Absolutely none.

Science deals with the empirical, what is. Religion deals with what may be. One shouldn't confuse the "maybe" of creationism with the empirical, irrefutable evidence for evolution.

[nomis_nehc]

:D very well put with the purple elephant example.

but I am here to tell you... I am so evolved that I CAN see purple elephants flying in the sky.

look there's one over there!

;)

[JimF]

othernutrient: You can't prove evolution nor creation. You have to believe in both. There is no empirical evidence to support evolution. True sciience is testable, observable and repeatable. Evolution fits none of these 3 thefore it's justa philosophy or better yet a form of secular religion as Dr. Hovind says. That's why neither one should be tauhgt in schools. Certainly evolution shouldn't be taught as a fact when it isn't. This is Dr. Hovind's point. Get evolution out of the schools. Why should we all pay for it ?

The Scientific Case Against Evolution

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/columnist...cke08-20-01.htm

[daoutlawz]

i myself believe in creation, i dont believe in the evolution theory for the simple fact that science has made a lot of mistakes, science is based on analysing and fact, which evolution has no facts to back it up, evolution cannot say that the world is DEFINATELY 40billion years old, because no one really knows, they cant say anything to back them selves up properly.

u cannot prove how old something is by looking at it, like for instance fossils, how do scientists know they are so an so old, or cave drawings, how do they know they were made millions of years ago? they dont, they just say they are..

the simple FACT is that NO ONE knows anything about how we got here, or how everything was made, the only reason i believe in creation is because there is a book called the bible and that is the only facts about how we got here that i know about, not to mention the so many ancient scriptures that have been found, im not here to argue, jus to say that...

we will all find out soon enough who is right..

[EidrahS]

Evolution is when something EVOLVES from something else. You CANNOT evolve from nothing, So. What was that very first thing that everything evolved from? And if you find that out - then what did that thing evolve from......or who or what created that thing.

mmmm answer that......before you just blurt out "That thing was always there"

Everything has a starting and an ending.

[othernutrient]

Originally posted by JimF

othernutrient: You can't prove evolution nor creation. You have to believe in both. There is no empirical evidence to support evolution. True sciience is testable, observable and repeatable. Evolution fits none of these 3 thefore it's justa philosophy or better yet a form of secular religion as Dr. Hovind says. That's why neither one should be tauhgt in schools. Certainly evolution shouldn't be taught as a fact when it isn't. This is Dr. Hovind's point. Get evolution out of the schools. Why should we all pay for it ?

The Scientific Case Against Evolution

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/columnist...cke08-20-01.htm

I direct you to my first post in this thread which you have taken the time not to read.

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Do you even know what evolution is?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-miscon...onceptions.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-...to-biology.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

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You have an apparent lack of knowledge on the subject. What point is there in discussing the issue further when you cannot even properly define terms?

So if you get what I'm saying, then you understand that any argument you make against evolution after saying "you can't prove evolution" has absolutely no foundation, and is therefore inherently wrong.

[daoutlawz]

Originally posted by Kareemah

Evolution is when something EVOLVES from something else. You CANNOT evolve from nothing, So. What was that very first thing that everything evolved from? And if you find that out - then what did that thing evolve from......or who or what created that thing.

mmmm answer that......before you just blurt out "That thing was always there"

Everything has a starting and an ending.

the big bang apparently came from nothing and exploded into something, so what u stated is so true, i didnt think of that.... :D