Installing Linux..

[turkforce]

hi,

i am planning to install fedora on my computer, but cuz i never done it before i just want to be sure nothing goes wrong.

well i've got 1 harddisk with 2 ntfs-partitions at the moment.. one of 60 one of 100gb.. the 60GB.. has windowsxp on it (C:\) and the D:\ of 100GB has files.. what i want is to make a third partition on one of those 2.. what do you recommend to use?

can i just use partitionmagic to make a partition and then install fedora core on it? what type of partitiontype should it be etc. etc. or can you do all this also in the setup of fedora?

another question is.. how many space do i need for fedora? i know its like 6gb when you install everything.. but does it grow exponential like winxp :p ? i am thinking about 10gb or something

and at last: is it possible to read ntfs files and write to it? (when the permissions are full access everyone)

thanks

[blik]

Use partition Magic to resize your 100GB "file" partition, to leave you 10GB to play with Fedora. Boot up witht the fedora disk and it'll guide you through everything. It does all the partitioning and formatting for you. You really cant go wrong. Its all handled by a neat GUI.

[turkforce]

so do u have to choose manual or automatic here?

[forster]

Automatic will use any free space on the drive, but you can still check the filesystems layout after 'next'

[turkforce]

yeah i saw that on the next screenshot after that.. i've got the screenshots from osdir.com btw :)

so just make a new partition on my 100gb.. of 10gb and format it with ext3? or should i leave the formatting of the (raw)-partition to fedora?

[blik]

Let the fedora install do the formatting, afaik it will make the necessary linux partitions and format them accordingly.

[forster]

You should create the partition BEFORE you start installing Fedora. Something like Partition Magic will let you resize your partitions without (usually) corrupting data.

I would also suggest that you let Fedora worry about the formatting, Ive done the above few steps so many times, its never let me down so far.

[turkforce]

okay i'll try that then :)

[turkforce]

first i think i'll have to wait until the 64bit-dvd version of fedora core 3 is released :D

[turkforce]

umm what about the ntfs read/write ability of fedora?

and

what should i choose by create partition in partition magic? ext2, ext3 or doesnt that make sense?

there is also an install another operating system wizard, where you can choose linux and then ext2 or ext3.. it also asks for a linuxswap partition.

Edited November 8, 2004 by turkforce

[markwolfe Veteran]

  forster said:

You should create the partition BEFORE you start installing Fedora.  Something like Partition Magic will let you resize your partitions without (usually) corrupting data.

:o Don't do that!

Yes, you will need to manually make room (shrink a partition, or remove one). But, don't create anything. Leave it unpartitioned/unallocated.

  forster said:

I would also suggest that you let Fedora worry about the formatting, Ive done the above few steps so many times, its never let me down so far.

Correct. You don't want to worry about making the right size swap, or if you want a /boot separate partition - and if so, hwo large?

I think forster was saying exactly what I am here, but the part of creating partition should have been worded to clearly state to MAKE ROOM on your drive, and state to not create an ext (or anyother) partition.

[markwolfe Veteran]

  turkforce said:

umm what about the ntfs read/write ability of fedora?

and

what should i choose by create partition in partition magic? ext2, ext3 or doesnt that make sense?

there is also an install another operating system wizard, where you can choose linux and then ext2 or ext3.. it also asks for a linuxswap partition.

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To add NTFS *read* support, you will need to add the right RPM from here:

http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/

Now, write access is a different matter.

[turkforce]

how do i leave it unallocated in partition magic?? you have to chose a File System

[peekj]

You should be able to just delete an existing partition or leave empty space in partition magic.

[turkforce]

lol.. i've installed it .. no problem.. but i dont get the system yet..

i wanted to install the nvidia drivers but you need to change something from 5 to 3 in etc/inittab .. so i did that.. but how do i change it back now?

the nvidia drivers are still not installed lol.. how difficult could u make it :s

and ntfs dont work either.. but wtf i am on xp now again :) not for me i guess.. i will try it for 2 weeks or something.. and then i see further

hopefully some can help me how to edit that file in console mode :)

[markwolfe Veteran]

  turkforce said:

lol.. i've installed it .. no problem.. but i dont get the system yet..

i wanted to install the nvidia drivers but you need to change something from 5 to 3 in etc/inittab .. so i did that.. but how do i change it back now?

the nvidia drivers are still not installed lol.. how difficult could u make it :s

and ntfs dont work either.. but wtf i am on xp now again :) not for me i guess.. i will try it for 2 weeks or something.. and then i see further

hopefully some can help me how to edit that file in console mode :)

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Easiest way to do the nVidia drivers is to switch init to 3 directly, rather than editing the file. If the procedure says to edit the file, then it is written more difficultly (is that even a word?) than it should be.

You should just do an /sbin/init 3 to switch to text only mode (kill X), then run the nVidia script, then make sure your xorg conf file calls for the nvidia module specified in their directions. Once that is done, just /sbin/init 5 to switch back to runlevel 5. There is no need to edit the inittab file.

As for NTFS, RedHat/Fedora don't include this kernel feature deliberately (due to patent concerns with Microsoft). This is easily added here:

http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/fedora3.html

Whenever you feel like trying again, there are LOTS of people here that are happy to help you get set up. :yes:

[turkforce]

oh i thought i should edit the file .. ok lets try it :)

the nvidia driver was giving an other error, something with compile i thought but i'll post it when i find it :)

[turkforce]

which rpm should i choose on linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net if i have.. x86_64 i only see i586 and i686 and that stuff :s

[markwolfe Veteran]

Hmmmm...

I don't know if a 686 will work with your kernel, and just use the compatibility mode, or if it will cause a panic. :blink:

There is a link to the sources, and you can compile it for your archetecture. That may be best....

http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/rpmsrc.html

[Nichotin]

Errors during the nvidia-installer? You might have forgotten the development tools while installing.

[turkforce]

i still don't get how to compile src.rpm files.. for example to use xmms on x86_64.. if someone could explain me that in clear language :)

[themartin]

hey, this is kiind of off topic but im wondering how do i uninstall FC3 and the boot manager. this was the first linux ive tryied and wasn't to impressed

[hornett]

^^ Boot into XP recovery console from your XP CD, run fixmbr. Then once in Windows, use Partition Magic or similar to remove the linux partitions.

[themartin]

  hornett said:

^^ Boot into XP recovery console from your XP CD, run fixmbr. Then once in Windows, use Partition Magic or similar to remove the linux partitions.

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well it also remove the boot loader

[Cube]

  themartin said:

well it also remove the boot loader

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yea it does then delete the partitions through windows. I dont blame you for not being that impressed, linux is really hyped up for not being that great