Farstrider Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 What I would like to know, was that spelling for real, good grief!!! Someone who spells like that can not be taken seriously. :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584967023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 22, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 22, 2004 toejam, you are referring to... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584967030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farstrider Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 :D The quote! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584967034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 22, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 22, 2004 you mean th3 pla6u3's PM? i thought i did some wacky typ0zors :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584967040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farstrider Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 you mean th3 pla6u3's PM? i thought i did some wacky typ0zors :p 584967040[/snapback] Ha Ha Ok :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584967054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelTrepid Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 The PM you received is the exact reason why I strongly disagree with open source. Luckily you received the message before conceeding to the poll results. You have worked too hard for someone to rip off your code!!!! :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584978001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 24, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 24, 2004 SteelTrepid, the PM was sent to Flishfun, not me (it seems people still haven't figured out who to PM for what). I was really surprised when Flishfun told me about it, so I had him forward it over to my side. After converting the PM's text to english (lol) I was shocked! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584980426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 24, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 24, 2004 SteelTrepid, the PM was sent to Flishfun, not me (it seems people still haven't figured out who to PM for what). I was really surprised when Flishfun told me about it, so I had him forward it over to my side. After converting the PM's text to english (lol) I was shocked! 584980426[/snapback] Yeah, seems people just PM the first person they see... be it for you or me. Oh well, at least it ends up gettin' to who it should eventually. :laugh: Anyways, yeah, that is a quite scary PM. On a side note, this 4 day holiday weekend of mine will be filled with working on the new AP5 modules, and the new Autopatcher website. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584981418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mx Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Rolf at the Pm, he wntd ur codez so he nd hiz m8 cud make a new proggy. :p rofl. haha that is funny. I cannot wait until AP5 :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584981431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatGnat Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Can I ask for an ETA for when we will be allowed to ask for an ETA for AP5.0? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584993870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptiPlex Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Can I ask for an ETA for when we will be allowed to ask for an ETA for AP5.0? 584993870[/snapback] 3 years Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584993892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 26, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2004 lol... one of the funniest questions i have taken time to answer! Just so we can get the whole ETA thing out of the way... We are preparing for a Christmas release, and judging by the progress done so far, it will be based on AutoPatcher 5.0... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584993930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue` Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 erm, ive never used AutoPatcher before, so sorry for the n00b question.....the previous version are compatable with SP2? or is the new version the first to have SP2 included? Soz :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584993975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezy666 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I dont think there was any need to open source APXP, that said, after looking at the Test package i have to say that APXP has become more customizable than before, the db files have been replaced by modules, this is a great thing we could just download latest modules rather than the full thing also if u are a unattended fanatic you could exchange your modules with your friends, this is gonna be a great release. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584995489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 27, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 27, 2004 Rogue, AutoPatcher is just a program. Thnk of it as a shell program. It indexes a database of items for a specific operating system. Version 5 will actually be a new version of that very same program. That of course means the structure will change (no more database). So it's really a question of what kind of database/modules you have. AutoPatcher as a program supports 2000/XP/2003 (and AutoPatcher 5 will extend the support), but it's really the database which was designed for SP1. Since we're now moving to modules, AutoPatcher 5 will only load modules designed for your operating system. chezy666, thanks, i'm quite excited about AP5 myself. I really think everyone will benefit from the new features. We will be able to keep AutoPatcher up-to-date and issue new modules whenever needed, and you will be able to download the ones you like. Furthermore, as you said, people could make their own modules (i.e. for non-english versions of windows) and share them. AutoPatcher will be able to load these modules with no further tweaking on a database! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584996094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted November 27, 2004 Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 27, 2004 will you guys be looking over some modules & signing them? like, these are files that have been checked and signed by us: ..... these havn't: .... so people will know to trust the signed ones? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584997693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 27, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 27, 2004 Official modules come with an ecrypted module configuration file (.amc from Autopatcher Module Configuration). So there's no question about that. AutoPatcher will load all module which are designed for the running operating system version and language. However, if a module's configuration file is not encrypted (thus unofficial) it marks it with a red color and adds a "(Unofficial)" tag next to it. But yes, you guys are welcome to create your own modules and submit them here. We will try to go over as many as we can to check their authenticity, and if everything goes well, we will pack them as official. And just so you people know (in case you didn't bother trying the preview I posted some days ago): Modules will be downloaded as .amp files (Autopatcher Module Package). It's actually a zip file with a new extension. For those who are not sure how/where to install them, I have made a Module Installer which works like this: You put all .amp files in \modules folder, and execute the Module Installer. You select the ones you want to install (or all!) and then just click a button. It should be easy enough for everyone :) Check the screenshot below: 1. AutoPatcher detected that some items are already installed, so it marked them with blue and unchecked them 2. AutoPatcher detected that "Test Module" was unofficial, so it marked it with red and added a "(Unofficial)" tag next to it. The whole thing is in Greek (have been working on some translations hehehe), so I hope you understand what i'm talking about :) 3. If an items is both already installed and unofficial, it will still be marked as red, but it will be unchecked of course Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584998205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Wow. Nice going. So you guys rewrote it from scrach or something? Modules will rock! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584998273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 27, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 27, 2004 yes, since i do the programming for autopatcher (flishfun does the database/modules), i decided the changes required old code to be thrown away. So yes, I rewrote AP5 from scratch... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-584998324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 28, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 28, 2004 OK, after a LOT of searching, I think I have finally got it right with operating system detection. Not only AutoPatcher supports all versions of Windows, but also, it can determine the exact version/type (i.e. Home, Pro...). With that said, I think it's time I release a list of supported Operating System Flags for use in the new modules: [note: # in SP# is any valid service pack number][note: RTM builds are flagged as SP0][note: WIN_95 and ANY_95 are identical] [note: WIN_ME and ANY_ME are identical] ANY_OS ANY_2K ANY_2K_SERVER ANY_2K_PRO 2K_ADVSERVER_SP# 2K_DTCSERVER_SP# 2K_SERVER_SP# 2K_PRO_SP# ANY_XP ANY_XP_HOME ANY_XP_EMBED ANY_XP_PRO XP_HOME_SP# XP_EMBED_SP# XP_PRO_SP# ANY_2K3 ANY_2K3_WEBSERVER ANY_2K3_DTCSERVER ANY_2K3_ENTSERVER ANY_2K3_SERVER 2K3_WEBSERVER_SP# 2K3_DTCSERVER_SP# 2K3_ENTSERVER_SP# 2K3_SERVER_SP# ANY_NT ANY_NT_SERVER ANY_NT_WORK NT_ENTSERVER_SP# NT_TRMSERVER_SP# NT_SERVER_SP# NT_WORK_SP# ANY_9X ANY_95 ANY_98 ANY_ME WIN_95 WIN_98 WIN_98SE WIN_ME /Raptor Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-585002487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neothunder Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Personal I find the dark and light blue colours for not installed and already installed patches/stuff a bit confusing. It would be much clearer if already installed patches were marked green instead of light blue. Just my 2 cents :happy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-585007613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 29, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 29, 2004 eh, neothunder, not installed items are marked with black. but i guess we can make a colour-poll where you guys could pick the colours... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-585007868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 29, 2004 eh, neothunder, not installed items are marked with black. but i guess we can make a colour-poll where you guys could pick the colours... 585007868[/snapback] That might not be a bad idea. See what everyone thinks it should be. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-585007991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 29, 2004 Author Veteran Share Posted November 29, 2004 yes, i can handle that ;) but you my friend... you must start making some modules fast! i dont think you have understood what autopatcher 5.0 holds for you :) In order to create a good module you need detection for it. Which means you must first install it to see what to use for its detection! So you better get started! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-585008120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 29, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 29, 2004 yes, i can handle that ;) but you my friend... you must start making some modules fast! i dont think you have understood what autopatcher 5.0 holds for you :) In order to create a good module you need detection for it. Which means you must first install it to see what to use for its detection! So you better get started! 585008120[/snapback] I will, I will. Planned to do it on my Thanksgiving break, but with the 2nd degree burns, and other such things, it kinda slipped my mind. Don't worry, this week should have me getting a bunch done. (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/242820-autopatcher-50-info-open-source-poll/page/3/#findComment-585008170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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