Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW 20" Widescreen LCD

[Hypoxiaicon]

Here you go.

Sorry for HUGE size.

The 2005FPW IS a smaller dimensioned Monitor compared to the 2001.

Measurements are done diagonally.

The main difference which people keep over looking is the aspect ratio's are different.

4:3 2001FPW

16:10 2005FPW

Either way, with the smaller overal dimensions and smaller overal resolution you DO get a bigger desktop with the 2005FPW.

[darkmark327]

I want the 2401FP...1920*1200 if it ever exists...drool

[Hypoxiaicon]

Yeh, the 24 Inch should be cool.

Too big for me, and price wise.

[jkinzer]

Either way, with the smaller overal dimensions and smaller overal resolution you DO get a bigger desktop with the 2005FPW.

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Ok, I'm not a math genius, so can you please explain what you mean? (Keep in mind that I own a 2005FPW, so I'd like to think that you are right)

2001FP

4:3 = 16:12

1600 x 1200 = 1,920,000 pixels

2005FPW

16:10

1680 x 1050 = 1,764,000 pixels

So, how does the 2001FP have more desktop space?

[Hypoxiaicon]

Because the 2005FPW is 16:10 Aspect as opposed to 4:3.

Only 156,000 Pixels different.

Thats tiny.

Probably am wrong, its 5:23am, had no sleep for no idea how long.

Edited January 12, 2005 by hypoxiaicon

[darkmark327]

Because the 2005FPW is 16:10 Aspect as opposed to 4:3.

Also, do you know how much 156 Pixels is?

Its tiny!

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Resolution is not the same as physical screen size.

The closer you get to a square for a given diagonal, the more area you get; 4:3 is closer than 16:10 so you have more area on the 2001FP.

20" at 4:3=

16x12 (12?+16?=20?)

192in?

20" at 16:10=

16.8x10.5 (16.8?+10.5?≈20?)

176.4in?

You get almost an inch more width but lose an inch and a half on height.

Edited January 12, 2005 by darkmark327

[Hypoxiaicon]

But thats what you get from 4:3 to 16:10!

Thats what Im saying.

You can not really compare a 4:3 to a 16:10!

Different Formats.

A 4:3 20Inch is Square. Therefore its a Huge 20 Inch Box.

a 16:10 is obviously WIDER so it gets wider 3-4 inches for ever 1 inch of height because its a different Aspect ratio.

If you want some to comparable to a 20 Inch 4:3 you need a 23-24 Inch Widescreen, the Dell 2405FPW for Instance.

Buts its a different format/Aspect Ratio. Its not about Actual Screen Dimensions between the two.

[darkmark327]

You said:

Either way, with the smaller overal dimensions and smaller overal resolution you DO get a bigger desktop with the 2005FPW.

But you don't. You have a larger area with the 2001FP.

[jkinzer]

:dontgetit: :argh:

[Hypoxiaicon]

I dunno, Maybe im not explaning in a way you can understand :blink:

Here:-

2001

2005

2001

2005

2001

2005

RIGHT!

Now hopefully you can see this with your own eyes.

The 2005FPW DISPLAYS more image then the 2001 in all the above screen shots.

You lose NO Height and Gain a fair amount of Width.

Anyone wanna dispute that?

I still think I am right and I have reasons to back it up. As posted above.

Also, When I say:

1) When I say the 2001 Is bigger I mean the Housing is bigger

2) when I say the 2005 has a bigger viewable area/screen I mean whats displayed. Its more then the 2001.

Hopefully that clears it up.

Edited January 12, 2005 by hypoxiaicon

[darkmark327]

Field of view in games is totally different than area--you get the same "area" in games at 640x480 as you do at 1600x1200. You specifically mentioned the desktop. Would you dispute that 1600x1200 gives you far more desktop space than 640x480 (in spite of the same "size" in games)? You can get the wide FOV with a 4:3 monitor (I did it for a while but got sick of letterboxing) but would you have a larger area? Of course not, you'd have less area because of the letterboxing.

[Hypoxiaicon]

^ Obviously as it has more pixels and a higher resolution.

I still think the 16:10 Wide Screen Aspect would give you more Space then a 4:3 even though it has lessier reoslution due to it being 16:10.

I dunno dude... Ive had no sleep for ages..

Ill even be wrong or right when I get mine next week.

And I will admit I am wrong If I am, I just believe it will be bigger... :wacko:

[darkmark327]

I don't feel like firing up HL2 for this but observe:

Yes, you have a wider FOV in the second, but is it bigger?

(That's a headcrab on the left, a combine soldier on the right):p

Like I said, 640x480 and 1600x1200 are the same size in games but certainly not in desktop area.

[jkinzer]

I don't feel like firing up HL2 for this but observe:

Yes, you have a wider FOV in the second, but is it bigger?

(That's a headcrab on the left, a combine soldier on the right):p

Like I said, 640x480 and 1600x1200 are the same size in games but certainly not in desktop area.

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Hey, that's pretty good! Do you work for Valve? ;)

Seriously though, hypoxiacon, I am sorry but I think you are wrong. Think about the number of pixels as stated before. I dunno, I've had too much math today to explain my opinion.

[darkmark327]

Hey, that's pretty good! Do you work for Valve? ;)

Seriously though, hypoxiacon, I am sorry but I think you are wrong. Think about the number of pixels as stated before. I dunno, I've had too much math today to explain my opinion.

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I'm their concept artist. :p

Anyway I'm sure you'll smack your forehead when you think about it after some sleep.

[gen01]

The price difference is big, depending on where you are.

Here in Sweden and still from the Dell homepage, the price is ~8400 sek. That's like $ ~1200 - 1700. And now when the Dollar is low, the monitor is even cheaper to purchase international.

But the price is still sky-high for a monitor. AH. I love the monitor and I want it sooooo much.

[xxkrnxstylezxx]

For returns, does Dell give you instructions or something with the new monitor? I got an exchange for my speakers from Dell, but I didn't receive any instructions. Just the speakers

[zjoden]

It depends on where your located.

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Holland i think i;m gonna have to tax :(... sigh... guese i should just buy one on dell europe :(

:D ZJODEN

[Hypoxiaicon]

Got my Customer Number.

:D

Its Scheduled for tomorrow :D

Oh yey :D

[Frank]

I have had mine on order since Jan. 3rd. The damn thing won't get here untill Jan. 17th as long as Dell doesn't delay it again.

[Hypoxiaicon]

I ordered mine on the 11th and it should be here tomorrow (13th) :p

[Allistar]

I have had mine on order since Jan. 3rd.  The damn thing won't get here untill Jan. 17th as long as Dell doesn't delay it again.

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Same here, ordered on the 3rd. Got an e-mail on the 7th saying it'll be delayed until on or before 01-14-2005.

I've already emailed and called their CS department. I've had two priority notifications put on my order and my 2nd day shipping was upgraded to overnight for free. What a bunch of crap that does when it won't even ship for maybe 2 more days. I'm so close to cancelling the order to buy a Mac Mini instead.

Where do you live? I wonder if that has to do w/ the delay. Texas here.

[Frank]

I'm in Arizona. I called up and got upgraded to overnight shipping also. I plan on calling up and getting a supervisor after I get the monitor and I want a 100$ coupon for my next Dell order. I don't know If I will get it but I can try.

[beardly]

I ordered mine on Dec 29th and it probably won't ship until the 19th. That is just a little annoying. There must be some major **** up at the plant which is causing this big backorder. But I did call in and complained and they gave me next day shipping for free(for what it's worth). I was hoping i would be getting it this week, but I will have to wait quite a bit longer for it I guess.

[Frank]

Where did you get the ship date of the 19th?