PC Gamers: Refusal to buy consoles

[darkblackcrow]

As stated before, most of the best games come out on PC first. They also play better on PC, with a better picture, frame rate and more availible controls. They will always have the ability that consoles don't give: better games on better hardware within 24 months of the release. PC's also provide the satisfaction of knowing you have built/adapted something and done so well enough to play this incredible, resource draining, testosterone injected gaming challenge. Oooh, I love PC gaming.

This is coming from the owner of every console since the Atari was a true player... :ninja:

[Prelude76]

I have my PC feeding s-video graphics to my Sony Wega TV, I have my SoundBlaster feeding audio to my 5.1 Dobly Digital 550Watt home stereo receiver, and i put my Logitech cordless mouse and logitech cordless keyboard on my coffee table (which coincidentaly is a sweet arse coffee table that 'lifts' up to a good height for eating and playing games), dim the lights, and enjoy PC gaming in the perfect way.

[piercehead]

I want to play the best games possible (graphics, sound and most importantly gameplay). This requires a PC.

As I do pay for upgrades on my PC there's no point me getting a console.

Factor into that- games are generally cheaper on PC, and I do everything else on my PC, like burning, editing, having all my films/music on the hard drives etc.

Oh and a keyboard & mouse are nicer.

Edit: I do miss a nice beat em up, but I can hold off till I go round my mate's and use his consoles. :)

[Redestium]

I prefer gaming on my PC more now actually, never thought I'd say that but there's something nice about being huddled in front of my display. I grew up with the NES and it was great and I still love console games but my mood shifts and it's nice to have both. I wouldn't say one way is better than another (aside from control issues with certain genres) rather they are just different.

[scoult01]

See thats what im talking about... its not about the games anymore is it .

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Wrong. People use that excuse because they know that <insert favorite console> isn't capable of being as good as a PC.

I consider myself a PC gamer (back in the day I owned a snes and used to play my mates old nes/mega drive etc). Back then, consoles definetely had an advantage over PCs. But now, there is just no comparison.

Aside from the ultra high detail and great frame rates PC's just offer so much more to the gamer. Take counter-strike for example, new maps are released ALL the time for that (3rd party), new models are released (my CS 1.6 has better looking models that CS:S). Such a game on say XBOX just wouldnt work. Not only are the controllers completely and utterly retarded for FPS (playing halo2 last nite, just not fun at all), but the user would never be able to get the same sort of customisability that the same game on PC would.

I guess if you dont want to fork out money for system upgrades (lets not kid ourselves, it doesnt cost THAT much to upgrade..) then a console is for you.

But if you prefer to be IN CONTROL of your gaming experience a PC definetely suits your needs better.

[Candy Dimsum]

Yes it would work , you know now alreadys like Ive said before consoles are becoming more like pc's. You can download new content ( maps , models, etc. ) if it is released for download , sure you cant have custom content but that would be a reason not to buy a console, for custom cotent , not upgraded/new content.

One last thing about controls , I dont get how you can say the keyboard/mouse is better for everyone , how it will always be better for everyone to use , thats not true. I know it may be better for you , ok thats fine but not everyone. You can go ask eveyone that has halo 2 if the controls suck too I beat most of them would disagree , mabye some would say I think it would be easier for them not eveyone , using a keyboard but, I can say they wouldnt say the controls suck for halo 2.

Edited November 23, 2004 by Cai

[GrandMaster]

for pc i can get games for free.. its harder for xbox/playstation/dreamcast/gamecube as i would have to burn the cd and also have a modchip installed to play them.

much less of a hassle with pc, much better controlls (mouse+keyboard > gamepad), higher refreshrate and fps, higher quality, and no need to set up and plug in to the tv

[Tarrmachine]

I have been playing computer games since 1984 and consoles games since '86. I cut my teeth on a Commodore 64 (when I was 7) and I moved on to a pc in '89 where our Commodore went belly up. Il loved copying commodore games and building my collection up. I have always liked PC Games better because of the graphics, gameplay, and great games. I have owned a lot of consoles but they have never given me as much satisfaction as a PC. I enjoy updating drivers, buying new hardware, and constantly tweaking my computer for better performance. You don't get that with a console, you just plug it in and that is it. The graphics and controls were so bad on San Andreas I decided to sell my PS2 and I won't miss it one bit.

Auto Aim sucks and I will be a pc gamer for life. Long live the mouse and keyboard. I will always have a gamepad by my side in case I want to play some sports games.

[Ayakaza]

I dont like the controll of the consoles and not alot of game are famous :no:

[stanley porkchop]

I dont like the controll of the consoles and not alot of game are famous  :no:

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Anything Nintendo? Halo? Final Fantasy? :wacko:

[NeoXY]

I just had had a thought after reading a few posts by PC gamers wondering about the PC release of GTA: San Andreas.

It seems to happen fairly often when a great game comes out for a console (GTA, MGS2, Final Fantasy, Silent Hill, etc. etc.).  PC Gamers say, "When's it coming out for PC?"  "Why doesn't 'so-and-so' make a PC version?" and other such comments that show a distress over a game not being released for Windows.

A question to you PC gamers.  Why is it you'll spend hundreds upon hundreds for PC upgrades so you can play the newest PC game, but refuse to drop so much as $120 for a preowned console to play the newest PS2, GCN or XBOX game?  You'll buy new memory and a new video card so you can play Half-Life 2 the second it comes out, but at the same time, you complain that not enough of the great console games are released for PC.

Just today I saw a post about someone saying how he's just going to have to wait a year for the PC version of GTA: San Andreas.  If he wants to play it so much, is $120 or even less for a preowned PS2 really too high a price to play the game now?

I just hope it's not due to some kind of "PC is better than consoles" fanboy attitude, because if the game isn't going to come out on PC, that argument doesn't hold much water.

Just curious.

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the truth is, we don't spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars upgrading our PCs...well at least me anyways. The only thing I have upgrade since I bought my PC 3 years ago is $50 on 1Gig of RAM and $20 for a optical mouse. Everything else is still perfectly useable. And I am able to play all games which include HL2 and Doom 3. Why do we not buy consols?...PCs are more useful. You can browse the net, do yor homework and everything else. Consols on the other hand simply play games. And also, often there is only 1 or 2 games good for a consol so therefor proves my point even more why we don't buy consols....PC will be just fine for me until my 64bit and Longhorn. :)

[giga Veteran]

I use my Xbox for gaming and my PC for general use. (internet, school work, etc) I'm just more of a console gamer because I prefer the games on consoles. Sports, Racing, Halo,...its my kind of gaming. I'm not into MMOs and Half-Life 2 barely appeals me. So it's just personal preference really.

And I agree with ragn4rokk's previous statement that console games are more social. So true. I have many parties and friends always come over so its always fun to sit down to Halo 2 Lan or madden.

[Rahul]

cmon guys take mah place , in india we dont get cheap gfx cards ( a 9800 pro costs like 375$) imagine what a 6800 ultra would be like , plus like me if you upgrade from a gforce 2mx400 64mb to a gforce 5200 128 , you will always find a console to be a better option . though i do agree that nothing can come close to the control or quality of games released for a pc , though maintaing a gaming pc ( atleast in india ) is a very expensive affair .

[obiwong]

A question to you PC gamers.  Why is it you'll spend hundreds upon hundreds for PC upgrades so you can play the newest PC game, but refuse to drop so much as $120 for a preowned console to play the newest PS2, GCN or XBOX game?  You'll buy new memory and a new video card so you can play Half-Life 2 the second it comes out, but at the same time, you complain that not enough of the great console games are released for PC.

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a few reasons:

1) Star Wars: Galaxies doesn't work PS2 or XBox

2) Everquest II doesn't work on PS2 or XBox

3) Neowin doesn't work on PS2 or XBox

4) none of my p0rn seems to work on PS2 or XBox

5) Bittorrent doesn't work on PS2 or XBox

6) Can't get Usenet on PS2 or XBox

and those are just a few reasons....

but i won't lie, i bought a PS2, but just to play FF and sometimes Street Fighter

my brother seems to get a lot of use out of it tho

[shake]

Thw thing about consoles in that there is only so much that you can do on them ... like when i bought my pc, i had the option of getting a decent pc + console for gaming or decent pc + decent video card for gaming. I would have have to buy the pc any way and the thing abt pc games is that they are more diverse, and most of the cool console games do get ported to pc (though i wish they did a better job of it).

Anyway i would say that each has its merits and if i could afford it, i would have gotten all the consoles i could. But on a limited budget, i think that pc is the best bet

[mufdvr3669]

starcraft on n64 was the only true rts they tried on consoles, and it failed miserably

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btw last post in this thread

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Nope, Dune II for the Genesis, and it was a s%@^load of fun. What got me into the RTS genre. I like both, Console for Sports, RPG's, Driving, and GTA3 type games. PC for FPS and RTS games. I like consoles for their ease of use, easier to hook up to a big screen, and their much lower costs. You say your computers are used for much more than gaming, but why the hell are people spending $300 or more on a graphics card when that'd get you a new console with three to four games.

[FudgeMonkey]

For me it's more a genre question, I have 3 PCs a PS2 and a GC.

for example:

Fighting = PS2

FPS = PC

After pub game = GC

i only really buy games for the GC that are exclusive for GC, marioKart, viewtiful Joe (i know it's on PS2 now) Zelda etc.

PS2 pads are so sturdy and well designed that i like fighting games on it more, and imo it's the best console games wise because there's such a choice.

PC because i've always had one for work or study and frankly it wets over most console games and has a mouse & keyboard.

Games on the PC that are also on console are nearly always vastly better and i cant stand FPS games on joypads.

If i had to keep just one it'd be the PC. I nearly waited for GTASA on the PC because of the vast difference between console & PC on GTAVC and because of the MTA mod but i played it on my bros PS2 and had to buy it for PS2 that day ii liked it so much. That and because of the free bandana ;) :pirate:

[Treefrog]

Maybe a different perspective for me, as I have a sneaking suspicion I'm a bit older than some, if not most of you here. Been a gamer since the Atari 2600 (my first console when it was new). I've always had consoles, and got into pc's during the first wave of the 386 (yeah, I kinda skipped the 286 because I was working on mainframes at the time). I've always loved pc games until the last few years, as just sitting with your face in a monitor during work and play gets old. I also got tired of the contant upgrade hassle (and no, it's not due to "technological challenges" as I am nowhere near a technologically challenged individual.. I hold my own very well in that arena). If I'm gonna upgrade my system, it's because I need to do it in order to make money, not to feed the constant cycle of hardware and OS upgrades. I am quite happy with my xbox.. which is strange seeing as I hate M$ as a company and use their software on as limited a basis as possible (when there's no other possible choice.. which is somewhere between very little and never), If you feel a console is too "kiddie" for you, I say get over yourself, cause you obviously have issues. I totally agree with the original poster in that it is gameplay and not graphics that make a game. There is a legitimate gripe if you prefer a mouse/keyboard combo for your fps's, and if you just have to you can hook up a keyboard and mouse to the xbox. So for me, a computer is 95%+ work, console is 100% games.

FYI on the kiddie issue, I have several friends who are also gamers. We all use consoles, and are all past the age of 40. No wonder I see so many people that wonder where all the chicks are because they never do anything except sit all alone 12" from their little monitor, while myself (and I am female btw) and my friends gather at each others houses and kick back in the living room socializing in front of the tv, or split up in teams, 1 xbox in the living room with 4 people, 1 xbox in the bedroom with 4 people, and 1 xbox in the basement with 4 people for a nice networked game. I can promise that no matter what resolution or framerate your pc is running you're not having as much fun as 12+ people screaming at each other from all corners of the house.

[stanley porkchop]

FYI on the kiddie issue, I have several friends who are also gamers. We all use consoles, and are all past the age of 40. No wonder I see so many people that wonder where all the chicks are because they never do anything except sit all alone 12" from their little monitor, while myself (and I am female btw) and my friends gather at each others houses and kick back in the living room socializing in front of the tv, or split up in teams, 1 xbox in the living room with 4 people, 1 xbox in the bedroom with 4 people, and 1 xbox in the basement with 4 people for a nice networked game. I can promise that no matter what resolution or framerate your pc is running you're not having as much fun as 12+ people screaming at each other from all corners of the house.

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:yes: :yes:

I agree with everything, but I'm still a teenager and I'm not a girl.

[killmaster84]

I'm a console gamer and pc why can't people just buy a console pc up-grades cost to much console games don't lag as much. You don't pay like $120 for an upgrade with a console. With a console (X-box) you can system link them and play some great games you know the one. Its just not the same with a pc sure you can system link but to you get a controler no. Must games from a console to a pc arn't good like Halo sheilds look gay until they came out with the patch adn it still looks gay on mine. So I say put like $120 to a console instead of a ATI 9800 pro they all go out of date.

[|Rapture|]

I like mod capability and the extra depth that PC games have traditionally offered. the last year has not been a very good year for PC games to really prove that standpoint but I will say that I have picked up an Xbox and a PSTwo (Just for SA really...) in the last 6 months.

Basically I like PC games better. I like screwing with things when they dont work, and I like braing things when they do work so a PC is perfect for me. Its not that expensive if you build your own machines and pick the right upgrades.

Oh, its probably worth mentioning that I dont do any kind of work on my home PC. Its a stereo, movie player and games machine mainly. Dont even have a word processor installed. Well unless you count notepad :)

[spruce-moose]

i prefer games on my pc, but multiplay on console is fun

[PHiZZy]

i dont think that its so much a refusal to buy buy consoles, personally, i'd quite like to have an Xbox, PS2 and GC, but my PC lets me play alot of the games that are available on those formats, and so much more... lets me surf net, email my friends and family, free phone cals, uni work and the list goes on.

the only reason that i dont go out and buy a console is that i wouldnt really play it that much, i would get the one or two games that arent available on pc finish them and then it would sit there collecting dust.

imho

[kl33per]

Prefer PC's for several reasons (most already outlined).

- Better graphics

- Better controls (FPS on a gamepad... seriously)

- Greater variety (more genre on PC, or maybe they're better done on PC)

- Gotta be a tweaker (it'a hard to tweak with a console, expect an xbox, which is a PC).

Mainly prerfer PC games over console games because the lack of graphics power and poor controls (in some situations) lessens my enjoyment of the games. Also not everyone is full of cash. In Australia, an XBox is ~$250-$299 (~$150-$200 pre-owned). Plus another controller, that's $50, plus DVD Remote, $50, plus the game, $90. That's $400-$500 just there. Many of us just don't have that kind of money to flaunt around because GTA:SA hasn't been released on PC yet. I'm hard pressed enough to go down to the local store and pay $90 for a game. IMO, that is way overpriced for many PC titles (if not all). Considering most titles are relatively short (10hrs or so) and have little or no replay value (only popular games get australian multiplayer servers), I can't justify the cost......

Anyone, got off the subject and now I'm rambling, cya's all later...

[MonkeyClaw Veteran]

yes my reasons for pc over consoles are

-Better Graphics

-Keyboard and Mouse

-Free online game play

-No TV

-Dont have to spend losts of money on a console that has graphics 3 years old and wont be replaced or upgradable until the next console which is out of date when it is released

I dont spend much money on hardware. i make a pc that will last. i will have the ability to play any game for the next few years with max everything, because it may not be the fastest but i will have the capibility. xbox doesnt support dx9. dx9 is a big thing. pixel shader 2.0 for example. PC's also have the capability of being much much more than something to play games. i can listen to music, watch video and get any information i need within seconds on one platform. its also a communications hub. The console is for games. but for games made for that console meaning that the graphics are limited by that console's abilities, the gameplay is limited by the controller set, and MP is no where near as fun, one you have to pay for it. for me it makes no sense why one would get a console, i mean they were great back in the day but now they are really if u think about it a waste of cash when you can build a pc for just a lil bit more that is much faster and has the ability to alot alot more. thats just my 2 cents.