[Definitive] Sony PSP Thread


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It cost me 30 pounds, I bought it from Japan's Akihabara area, they have TONS in stock. Yodabashi Camera (the place where I bought it) are always full.

You can get them at similar prices on ebay, somme uk sites are pricier but still less than the RRP. Also, once the 1gb and 2gb become more available, I'm sure the 512's will be cheaper.

It cost me 30 pounds, I bought it from Japan's Akihabara area, they have TONS in stock. Yodabashi Camera (the place where I bought it) are always full.

You can get them at similar prices on ebay, somme uk sites are pricier but still less than the RRP. Also, once the 1gb and 2gb become more available, I'm sure the 512's will be cheaper.

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70$, not bad, but you have to include this in PSPs cost. So 400$ Can for the PSP bundle & 2 games + 70-80$ Can 512mb stick = 470 + 15% tax = 540$ to play games on the go.

This is simply too much. If sony just let us buy the PSP standalone without any forced game/accessory bundles. It would have been more competitively priced. Now, not only do customers have to consider this extreme high cost, they also are forced to buy games they dont want. Nowhere in Canada are they selling the valuepack alone, there is always games that are bundled with it. Probably this is same in the US. Probably a forced decision by Sony on retailers. I am very dissapointed by this arrogant move.

well at the end of the day I guess it depends on the region.

My value, memory stick and three games cost me 486 Canadian Dollars, 210 pounds. (bought from Japan)

Bundled games released in a pack are a store decision, not to do with Sony at all.

I mean, we have to look at this based on your arguments.

You said that you are only interested in the games aspect, so if that was the case then the difference between a DS and PSP is 30 pounds (comparison between Basic and DS in Japan or DS and PSP Value in UK)

At the end of the day pricing is set by the company and I feel that 30 pounds isn't a bid deal.

Now if your only interested in the gaming side of things, then a 512mb stick is unnecessary anyway for you so you're not spending any money.

If you want to talk about the PSP's pricing after it's functions then you'll have to do the same with the DS. Since with the DS, you need to pay for the video attachment, the memory card as well, and perhaps an MP3 attachment (i didn't say photoviewer since I think the video attachment can do that) Either way, you're still spending on both units.

edit: you added that tax thing, but i think pricing is set to include tax. That's the way it is in Japan and the UK anyway.

well at the end of the day I guess it depends on the region.

My value, memory stick and three games cost me 486 Canadian Dollars, 210 pounds. (bought from Japan)

Bundled games released in a pack are a store decision, not to do with Sony at all.

I mean, we have to look at this based on your arguments.

You said that you are only interested in the games aspect, so if that was the case then the difference between a DS and PSP is 30 pounds (comparison between Basic and DS in Japan or DS and PSP Value in UK)

At the end of the day pricing is set by the company and I feel that 30 pounds isn't a bid deal.

Now if your only interested in the gaming side of things, then a 512mb stick is unnecessary anyway for you so you're not spending any money.

If you want to talk about the PSP's pricing after it's functions then you'll have to do the same with the DS. Since with the DS, you need to pay for the video attachment, the memory card as well, and perhaps an MP3 attachment (i didn't say photoviewer since I think the video attachment can do that) Either way, you're still spending on both units.

edit: you added that tax thing, but i think pricing is set to include tax. That's the way it is in Japan and the UK anyway.

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In Canada prices do not inclue the tax, so there is a hidden "screw you" when you near the cashier.

DS is not PSP. Are you saying that both of these handhelds function the same? Ok if we go by your argument, that would mean I would have to learn some engineering skills and add touchscreen to my PSP, and an extra screen, extra battery and "download play" feature. Your argument doesnt hold water. Not mention, DS media player is not available for the US presently.

If I am going to buy a PSP, I might as well use it at its full potentiel, dishing out 400$ is not something I can take lightely. And since you brought DS into this debate. DS games are 10$ cheaper than PSP games, more or less.

no my point had nothing to do with similarity of functions, it had to do with purchasing accessories so that the DS could acheive some of the PSP's capabilities.

If there was a touch screen attachment, then you could add it to the price tag.

But you basically said it yourself, it's an accessory and you DONT have to have it. It's an option. So pricing should be based upon the unit itself not anything you may want to have to expand your happiness.

My argument does hold water, you're just failing to see what I was saying.

Using a unit to it's full potential is an OPTION, who said you need to have a million movies, (if any movies at all) on a memory stick.

You only need it to save, finito, music, movies, and other things are an option (to use with the memory stick) I'm sure they are primarily focusing on those options being used with a UMD.

I mean, I could just as easily say, if I'm going to buy a DS (which I have and enjoy) then I might as well buy the additional accessories to enjoy what PSP users are enjoying.

If Canada has the games at 10 dollars cheaper, or has tax, then I guess your argument will only stand for Canadian users.

Lumines in Japan now for the PSP costs 12 pounds, (i'm sure it'll cost 25 in the UK when it's out)

It's simple. You choose the console you like. If you can afford to add anything else to it, great. If not, you chose it, you live with it.

If I didn't have my 512 stick I'd still be happy.

no my point had nothing to do with similarity of functions, it had to do with purchasing accessories so that the DS could acheive some of the PSP's capabilities.

If there was a touch screen attachment, then you could add it to the price tag.

But you basically said it yourself, it's an accessory and you DONT have to have it. It's an option. So pricing should be based upon the unit itself not anything you may want to have to expand your happiness.

My argument does hold water, you're just failing to see what I was saying.

Using a unit to it's full potential is an OPTION, who said you need to have a million movies, (if any movies at all) on a memory stick.

You only need it to save, finito, music, movies, and other things are an option (to use with the memory stick) I'm sure they are primarily focusing on those options being used with a UMD.

I mean, I could just as easily say, if I'm going to buy a DS (which I have and enjoy) then I might as well buy the additional accessories to enjoy what PSP users are enjoying.

If Canada has the games at 10 dollars cheaper, or has tax, then I guess your argument will only stand for Canadian users.

Lumines in Japan now for the PSP costs 12 pounds, (i'm sure it'll cost 25 in the UK when it's out)

It's simple. You choose the console you like. If you can afford to add anything else to it, great. If not, you chose it, you live with it.

If I didn't have my 512 stick I'd still be happy.

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Granted that I don't need to buy a larger memory stick if I won't be using its media functions. But on a lesser note, i would be wasting my time by buying a PSP cause those fucntions incorporated in the handheld are included in the price. Yes, you could have had a good argument if the PSP sold as a standalone pack, cause then the price difference between DS and PSP is insignificant. Yet right now, with crappy valuepack and games bundled, that is far from being the truth, 460$ is still alot of money without the memory stick and it would be a fraud after paying that much and not buying a memory stick to use the "optional functions".

For now, I will hold off purchasing one for myself. Btw, I heard that the battery performance for US PSPs were improved. In time, we will see if this is true.

I just reserved mine today and the total price was $268.11 USD after tax and everything. The bundle I reserved comes with 1 PSP, 1 carrying case, Ridge Racer (Game), and 1 pair of headphones. I got in the second shipment, not the first, so I don't get it on the 16th, I get it on the 24th. :( But that's okay! :)

well I can see that you wont (I didn't mean 'dont) see what I'm saying.

I like to think that I'm a neutral person, but I can see that no matter what you'll always be on one side.

I'll just leave it with. Look at the console's price around the world. Then look at the console's price difference between the two (not in Canada but in general) as I said it's only 30 pounds. I can say that this bundled games system is only in the shops you've seen in Canada and not in Japan, we'll have to see in the UK and the US when it's released.

As for the battery life, if it was improved it would be great. I mean, I dont play more than 5 hours of gaming outside of my home and I do have two batteries, but I'd only buy a new battery if it has at least double the gaming hours.

Then I'd have two batteries up for sale :p

well I can see that you wont (I didn't mean 'dont) see what I'm saying.

I like to think that I'm a neutral person, but I can see that no matter what you'll always be on one side.

I'll just leave it with. Look at the console's price around the world. Then look at the console's price difference between the two (not in Canada but in general) as I said it's only 30 pounds. I can say that this bundled games system is only in the shops you've seen in Canada and not in Japan, we'll have to see in the UK and the US when it's released.

As for the battery life, if it was improved it would be great. I mean, I dont play more than 5 hours of gaming outside of my home and I do have two batteries, but I'd only buy a new battery if it has at least double the gaming hours.

Then I'd have two batteries up for sale :p

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I don't care what's the price in Japan. I live in Canada and the price in Canda only matters to me, as I am the one considering the purchase, i am the one who has to dish out the money. If you willing to buy me a PSP, you can use your japanese argument, if not, you argument is pointless.

I already checked the US game sites (Gamestop/Ebgames), and they are even worse, they forcing you 3 games to buy with your PSP Value pack, while Canada only 2.

At least here with futureshop, you have 30 days return on any hardware except opened software. This why I love this retail store.

then dont say something that makes people think you are talking in general.

Say, 'In Canada...'

and my argument wasn't based on Japan, it was based on the difference in price in the US and UK in addition to Japan.

Holy CRAP!

I notice in some threads you tell people to READ, well YOU do some reading as well.

wait a week or two after release and you'll see that the psp isn't always bundled. Like I said a bundle is related to the store! Not the console!

Ok, I'm selling a PSP bundled with 100 games. And I'll sell it in canada with 20% tax. Total price 1230 dollars. That means the PSP is too expensive. Let's all buy DS's around the world wooo!

then dont say something that makes people think you are talking in general.

Say, 'In Canada...'

and my argument wasn't based on Japan, it was based on the difference in price in the US and UK in addition to Japan.

Holy CRAP!

I notice in some threads you tell people to READ, well YOU do some reading as well.

wait a week or two after release and you'll see that the psp isn't always bundled. Like I said a bundle is related to the store! Not the console!

Ok, I'm selling a PSP bundled with 100 games. And I'll sell it in canada with 20% tax. Total price 1230 dollars. That means the PSP is too expensive. Let's all buy DS's around the world wooo!

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Maybe you should read, cause you jumped into this debate, where in previous posts before I already mentioned that my price concerns are in CANADIAN. Also, since when did I speak generally?? Please tell me, I love to see how to get out of this mess you made.

I only spoke for my own concerns. And if you can't figure that out, then you don't know the english language. And your last comment makes you like a disgruntled sony fan, mr "neutral".

well I wasn't going to just sit and lay quiet when I obviously see you are trying to gently diss out a console. I dont like the PSP nor the DS to be flamed.

You really like to make things seems worse than they really are.

You know what, I'll leave it up to other readers to read what I wrote and decide. Was I at all vicious? Did I lean to the side of a PSP or a DS? I'm sure they'll be quick to respond.

To be honest I even prefer the DS over the PSP myself due to the fact that I hate Sony and love Nintendo, but I try not to let my bias affect my judgement.

**** it, arguing with you is not worth it. Go get another username.

well I wasn't going to just sit and lay quiet when I obviously see you are trying to gently diss out a console. I dont like the PSP nor the DS to be flamed.

You really like to make things seems worse than they really are.

You know what, I'll leave it up to other readers to read what I wrote and decide. Was I at all vicious? Did I lean to the side of a PSP or a DS? I'm sure they'll be quick to respond.

To be honest I even prefer the DS over the PSP myself due to the fact that I hate Sony and love Nintendo, but I try not to let my bias affect my judgement.

**** it, arguing with you is not worth it. Go get another username.

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Yes, I am stirring a secret conspiracy to diss the PSP cause I raised my personal cost issue. I am evil!!! Rarrr! :devil:

Hey guess what!!! I got my PSP by itself!!! In the US!!! From EBGames!!! I didnt have to buy 3 games with it!!! Look around you can find it by itself (value pack that is, they arent releasing it by itself yet). Annatar you have way to many mistakes in your argument!!! For example the DS download feature. PSP has the same for free. You can download game content onto your memory disc that they give you. So infact the whole "Value Pack is crap" argument falls under. Im sorry but what you have to say just doesnt hold up. And I agree with amnesia_kei, if you want to have more than the PSP comes with thats your choice. So you cant add the cost for what you yourself want with what it could cost for the basic PSP Value Pack.

Hey guess what!!!  I got my PSP by itself!!!  In the US!!! From EBGames!!!  I didnt have to buy 3 games with it!!!  Look around you can find it by itself (value pack that is,  they arent releasing it by itself yet).  Annatar you have way to many mistakes in your argument!!!  For example the DS download feature.  PSP has the same for free.  You can download game content onto your memory disc that they give you.  So infact the whole "Value Pack is crap" argument falls under.  Im sorry but what you have to say just doesnt hold up.  And I agree with amnesia_kei,  if you want to have more than the PSP comes with thats your choice.  So you cant add the cost for what you yourself want with what it could cost for the basic PSP Value Pack.

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PSP has "game sharing" not "download play". PSP just sends a mini game, items or saves to other PSPs/PS2s, but you cant play LAN with each other with the data that 1 PSP sends, while other PSPs dont have the same game.

DS you can, with 1 cartridge, 4-6 ppl can play LAN together and not just mini-games, but an entire game. It also can send trials of certain games like polarium, it will send 10 first levels to another DS as trial, but you can also play versus together, without having the game cartridge. Now image this when online service comes out, you probably will be able to download tons of trials from other people DS'es ;)

Value Pack is crap in my opinion and in the opinion of many reviewers. The headphones are cheap quality, the soft case is not protective as the opening is exposed with no zipper, 32mbs is good for saves but not media and the arm band doesnt even match PSP color.

Stop trying to convince me to get a PSP. I am the one dishing the money for it, and right now 460$ is too much, neither there are any games I am interested about which is the most important for me. The entire launch line are sports games, which does not interest me. There is also the issue of PSP battery, I will not buy one then see that a few months later, there is a new PSP revision. I am very patient person, I will take the wait and see approach. For now, PSP is a no for me. So please stop this and dont turn it into a DS VS PSP thread.

Im not trying to convince you to buy a PSP. Do what you want. I was just saying your argument doesnt hold up. And "The entire launch line are sports games" really well im counting 10 games for launch. And thats not including racing games which I dont see as sports games. Once again my point about your argument.

$460? what u smokin'? cuz i want some.....

$250 value pack(w/ spider man 2 umd) + $50 game + $100 for 1gb stick. thats $420+(with tax) and ur all set. Unless you want 2 games.

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Hi, I am Deimos, and I don't read a thread before I write my nonense, or I would have known that the previous poster lives in Canada and their currency is a lesser value than the american currency, hence the increase in price, as well as their socialist liberal background that entails them to duke out 15% tax over retail price of an item.

Official US PSP website launched.

http://www.us.playstation.com/psp/

Id just like to say Thanks to a new Web Site soon to be released, PSPpro.com who is now hosting my dvd2psp.net also PSPpro.com/dvd!

I Hope that this web site is big enough to support a whole range of content for PSP in the coming years. With support form great community?s much like this! So look out soon and I will keep you posted:):)

dvd2psp will have a major update with the launch of PSPpro, some include, subtitle inclusion, Better support for 3GP_Converter, File size optimisation and charts which include general patterns for file conversion into MP4. I may include downloads for files already converted into MP4 but legal issues probably with prevent me from doing that, and I don?t want a fine or get locked up! l:laugh:ugh:

Id just like to add that PSPpro.com is a serious web site dedicated to bring the latest in Playstation Portable Media without just cloning the already existing fan community. We aim to produce original and high quality content, well... enough of the hyping, you will see for yourself soon, no dates yet, but im sure it will be worth a wait!

so ya, all this great talk on the psp. My mom wanted to know what i wanted for my b-day thats 3 days after the 24th, and i was like i kinda want the psp and she was like sell ur zen xtra and ill let you have it. Sold my zen xtra in 30 minutes w/ my 2 year circuity city waranty. Now im on wait status to get my hands on the psp.. :-D

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I was surprised by how well-designed the web portal is. It is fast, pretty, and properly categorized. Well done! Once you have your books loaded, you can highlight or underline text, add annotations, bookmark pages, check the table of contents, and ask AI about the selected text. Unfortunately, the Krono has no built-in vocabulary, but again, that is something a third-party reader could fix. Overall, the built-in reader is light and snappy, with just the minimum amount of features for a regular user to enjoy reading books. The Krono has no built-in reading tracking, so stat nerds will have to look for third-party reading apps. However, you can set a daily reading goal, and the reader will notify you when you reach it (for example, one hour). You can also set a reminder to read at a certain time, and when the time comes, the Krono will light up its back LEDs and unlock itself to nudge you. Other than that, the rear LEDs do nothing, not even showing charging progress, which is an unfortunate misopportunity if you ask me. Quirks aside, Krono's Android runs quite snappily and bug-free. Early reviews of the Krono criticized its Android 13-based software quite a lot, but now, the reader runs Android 15, and its software has fixed plenty of initial complaints. I never experienced any issues with built-in apps. AI attempts The DuRoBo Krono comes with a built-in AI chatbot. There is no information on what model powers this thing, but the system says it was "trained by Google." You can launch the bot from the app list or by double-pressing the dial. It works just like any other chatbot, and you can ask it anything by typing or using voice input. The AI saves your chats, and you can rename, export, or delete them. DuRoBo AI requires an active internet connection, and it does not work offline. Its reach and capabilities are also limited. You can only chat in the app and use it in the reader app as a makeshift vocabulary. However, the implementation is kinda awkward. You can only send a selected portion of text to AI without giving it any requests or instructions. I highlighted the word "dumb," and it apologized to me for not being useful. You also cannot ask follow-up questions or send the generated response to a separate chat. The chatbot is also slow, even with fast Wi-Fi, making the overall experience quite frustrating, which makes me again wish for the ability to remap the double press to something else. Spark, the standard voice recording app, also uses AI for note summarization and transcribing. Neither feature works offline, unfortunately. Spark records notes up to 30 minutes using Krono's dual microphones, and you can rename or export notes. Transcription quality is decent, and the speed is alright, but you can find much better solutions in the Google Play Store. What I like about Spark is that transcribed notes are not locked, and you can always type more to elaborate on your ideas, which is handy. Overall, I like that the Krono is not shoving AI down my throat, but to be honest, there is really not that much to shove. AI features here feel raw and need improvements to be more useful. Battery Life Like most E-Ink readers, the Krono has fantastic battery life. Even with a clock as a screensaver, its standby power consumption is incredibly low. And when in use, you can get weeks of reading on a single charge. Without the front light, my unit never sipped more than one or two percent of battery during a one-hour reading session. It was nice to see plenty of battery-related settings. You can limit charging at 80% to protect battery health long-term, check the number of charging cycles, manufacturing/first-time use date, battery health, and the maximum capacity. Additionally, the Krono lets you select what hardware remains enabled when sleeping. This lets you keep Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on (say, if you want to receive notifications, for some reason) and keep audio playing when locked. Turning these features off effectively eliminates any standby battery drain. I left my Krono sitting for 24 hours with a clock screensaver on, and it did not drop a single percent. The pretty big 3,950 mAh battery justifies the device's thickness and ensures you do not have to charge it for long periods. Speaking of charging, it is capped at only 10W, which is a bit disappointing, as getting such a big battery to 100% takes a notably long time in the era of super-fast charging smartphones. DuRoBo Moodi The Moodi is a standalone, optional accessory for your Krono. It is a wireless remote with two customizable buttons that you can use to flip pages, control media, or scroll webpages. The accessory connects via Bluetooth. Despite having a built-in rechargeable battery, it is extremely light. While the Moodi's shape and form factor is not what I would call particularly ergonomic, it is not uncomfortable to hold and use. The Moodi comes with six removable magnetic buttons with various smiley faces. Buttons sit securely, and they have nice-feeling, albeit a little loud, clicks. It is a cute touch that adds a little more fun and character to the device. There is also an accented power button and a single status LED. The latter displays charging status and connection mode. The Moodi supports three modes: Reading: Buttons work as volume buttons, allowing you to flip pages in the built-in reader or other apps that support page turning with volume buttons. Media: Buttons work as skip forward/backward, which is useful when listening to audiobooks, podcasts, or music. Scroll: The third mode lets you scroll pages in the web browser or any other application The Krono properly detects the Moodi and presents you with an on-screen guide when you connect it for the first time (it also displays the battery level). However, you can only change modes by holding both buttons for a few seconds. It is also worth noting that the Moodi works with other devices. I connected it to my iPhone and it let me adjust volume or control media playback. Sadly, the scroll did not work, so you cannot use it to waste time scrolling TikToks. Overall, the Moodi is a cute little accessory, which I can recommend for those who read a lot. It is very useful for remote page flipping when you do not want to burden your hands by holding the Krono all the time. I only wish DuRoBo included a lanyard for the built-in loop. As for the battery life, after using the Moodi for a few days, I only managed to drop several percent of its 90 mAh battery. Despite the small size, it is rated for weeks of use, which is pretty impressive. At $35.99, I cannot say the Moodi is a must-have accessory, but I see the appeal. I prefer using the Krono with its Smart Dial, as I rarely read for more than 40-60 minutes in one sitting. However, if you have a stand and like reading for long periods, the Moodi is the right thing to have. It is a bit more expensive than regular page flippers on Amazon, but it is on par with similar products from Kobo or BOOX. Plus, it has a little more fun to it with removable buttons and better integration into the Krono. Conclusion At the end of the day, DuRoBo Krono is a nice pocket-sized e-reader. Its software focuses on the main things without trying to be everything at once. The smart dial idea is unique and great, and I wish more manufacturers had something similar in their devices. The display is also good, with an even frontlight and "always-on" support. I did not notice any deal-breaking issues with the Krono. However, you can feel that the idea needs some improvements, such as a slightly stiffer dial in a more ergonomic location, perhaps a little more premium materials, and better software customization. I hope the company won't give up on the idea and improve the dial and ergonomics in the second generation. Buy DuRoBo Krono Black - $279.99 on Amazon Buy DuRoBo Krono White - $279.99 on Amazon Buy DuRoBo Moodi - $35.99 on Amazon As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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