My server, plans to setup

[+dave164 Subscriber¹]

Ok, step one, i now know how to achually log into it :p

Is there anything i should know in the Linux installation?

[markwolfe Veteran]

Is there anything i should know in the Linux installation?

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You (almost) can't do anything too wrong. If you forget to add a package, it can be added after install. If you have things you don't want/need, they can be removed. :yes:

[dotRoot]

Fedora may be an OK choice for a server, but it isn't really made for a server, its made for a desktop. I do use FC2 on my personal testbed server, just because I wanted to try it out. Don't worry about the GUI thing. I'm not a GUI guy myself, but you may be. Go ahead and when it installs if you want a GUI select: X Windows Server, KDE, Gnome...to see which one you like.

Also be sure when looking through the apps installs to select SAMBA. It will allow you to fileshare with windows computers on the same network. And don't worry, all the install apps are just checkboxes beside their names with descriptions of what they are in FC2.

As for VNC not working on linux? WHAT? Sure it does, AT&T when they made VNC, I believe they first have the UNIX version. Anyway VNC does work on linux.

Also to SSH to your server from a windows machine get: PuTTy. Its an SSH client.

As for webmin, its a great tool for someone starting out and even for the expert. Webmin also runs its own webserver so that if Apache or whatever webserver you use goes down you can still access webmin, making it all the better for troubleshooting. It has plugins that are great and let's you point and click your way through the more 'advanced' tasks in linux.

It even has a plugin for VNC. And it also supports installing RPM packages, YUM, apt-get, etc. I'd recommend getting it!

If you like FC2 then I'd look into: WhiteBox. Fedora is RedHat's distro for the home consumer and RedHat Enterprise Linux is for the server market. Well RHEL does cost from $1,300 - $6,300. However WhiteBox is RHEL, just without RedHat's trademarks. Whitebox was actually compiled from the RHEL source code.

I hope this all helps you. Most people download like 5 or more distros, then install them and see which they like the best.

[+dave164 Subscriber¹]

Thanks alot dotRoot that really helped, i would prefer using a GUI so i can see what is going on, maybe in a month or so ill just advance to commands via SSH.

On Webmin can you install things, uninstall things, configure, do everything you need to do to set up all the required apps i need?

dave164

[dotRoot]

Thanks alot dotRoot that really helped, i would prefer using a GUI so i can see what is going on, maybe in a month or so ill just advance to commands via SSH.

On Webmin can you install things, uninstall things, configure, do everything you need to do to set up all the required apps i need?

dave164

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Yes you can. You can even put in the URL of where the RPM file is and it will download it to a temp folder, install it and then keep the info in the RPM database for future updating and uninstallation. It also will clean the temp folder out every once and awhile unless you tell it to do it yourself.

When you do use Webmin, the first thing I'd suggest is use its YUM interface (same place) and type: apt-get and then click install. That's another thing, with YUM and apt-get you don't have to know where a app is to install it, you just type the name and it searches its internet repositories and downloads, installs and all that for you. What's great about YUM and apt-get is also that it will find the file's dependancies for you and install those too...kind of like having windows and downloading a file only to have it error and complain, because you need a runtime file or library.

Anyway both apt-get and YUM are also accessable via the command line and VERY easy to use as well as both should have a GUI on the desktop if you so desire to download the GUI interface...although webmin is just another GUI to them umong other things.

Don't worry about SSH. Yes you'll need to learn the commands, but its not hard. What makes linux hard with and/or without a GUI is that mostly people come from windows, so they are used to stuff being the same. But just a child coming and using linux for the first time is just like them using windows for the first time and both are just as easy. I'm not saying you'll make your whole computing experience switch to linux (lots of people do), but you will find a much more rewarding experience if you stay with it.

Besides, we're all here to help on Neowin's Nix support forums, but we only count for probably less than 1% of the huge communities out there willing to help people with linux, BSD, or whatever.

[+dave164 Subscriber¹]

Right ok, i guess ill have to have a play when i install it :p

dave164