Which car has the best performance-to-cost ratio?


Recommended Posts

pwnd  <-- God how I hate that "word".  Way overused by people that think it is "cool"...cool to use such a stupid "word".

Anyway...I would have to go with the Corvette (higher end) and the Mustang (lower end).  Screw those little 4 cylinders with turbo.  A grin comes over my face every time I see one of those cars with smoke coming out of its exhaust.

585344390[/snapback]

What's with American's fancination with how many cylinders a car has?? I noticed this when I was in the states this summer, a friend had just bought a new Honda and I asked him what size the engine was, all he said was that "oh I don't know, it isn't a V6 as that was quite a lot more". It's almost as if you've accepted the marketing crap as truth, that more cylinders must mean a better car. Pfft.

What's with American's fancination with how many cylinders a car has?? I noticed this when I was in the states this summer, a friend had just bought a new Honda and I asked him what size the engine was, all he said was that "oh I don't know, it isn't a V6 as that was quite a lot more". It's almost as if you've accepted the marketing crap as truth, that more cylinders must mean a better car. Pfft.

585345078[/snapback]

More cylinders always mean more power when you're in reference to a sports car there chap. While the Accord V6 isn't really a sports car, it is much faster than any stock I-4 that Honda offers [other than the S2000].

What's with American's fancination with how many cylinders a car has?? I noticed this when I was in the states this summer, a friend had just bought a new Honda and I asked him what size the engine was, all he said was that "oh I don't know, it isn't a V6 as that was quite a lot more". It's almost as if you've accepted the marketing crap as truth, that more cylinders must mean a better car. Pfft.

585345078[/snapback]

Seriously

Anyways, the Ariel Atom is street legal in the UK. It's also damn fast. We were talking about performance cars, and this is exactly what he was asking for. I personally think Clarkson is funny. He's biased, but I still find him funny.

And why are we comparing a $45000 car to a $30000 car? I'd rather have the STI either way

I'm just wondering what cars you think have the best cost-to-performance ratio.

I'm thinking the Acura TL A-Spec myself; quality car, great handling and performance, sub $35,000 (if I'm not mistaken) price.

585336869[/snapback]

the most bang for the buck and power car that is available right now, is mitsubishi lancer evolution, it has extremely good value ,performance & handeling.

or you can go for Nissan 240sx(i think you know what this car can do) , i heard that nissan is going to start producing it, next year. so im saving my money for 240sx.

the most bang for the buck and power car that is available right now, is mitsubishi lancer evolution, it has extremely good value ,performance & handeling.

or you can go for Nissan 240sx(i think you know what this car can do) , i heard that nissan is going to start producing it, next year. so im saving my money for 240sx.

585351258[/snapback]

Woah, they are going to make it again? Interesting. This should be a peppy turbo 4 cylinder rwd or a nice NA V6 3.5 L similar to a 350Z.

I'd see this as being sub 30K (maybe sub 25K.) with one of the above engines. Most likely a 3.5L in the top end. That should keep it from competing against the Z.

Those were cool cars with the turbo I4. Or did the Silvia have a 6 cylinder? Pretty sure not.

the most bang for the buck and power car that is available right now, is mitsubishi lancer evolution, it has extremely good value ,performance & handeling.

or you can go for Nissan 240sx(i think you know what this car can do) , i heard that nissan is going to start producing it, next year. so im saving my money for 240sx.

585351258[/snapback]

you can't be serious right? They discontinued after the S15.

Woah, they are going to make it again?  Interesting.  This should be a peppy turbo 4 cylinder rwd or a nice NA V6 3.5 L similar to a 350Z.

I'd see this as being sub 30K (maybe sub 25K.) with one of the above engines.  Most likely a 3.5L in the top end. That should keep it from competing against the Z.

Those were cool cars with the turbo I4. Or did the Silvia have a 6 cylinder? Pretty sure not.

585351348[/snapback]

The SR20DE(T) for S13/4/5's are I believe are 4 Bangers.

Edited by Razorwing
and WRX STi will also not hold its own against a corevette...

585338301[/snapback]

Yes it will. Not in a drag race, but with good drivers it would be pretty close on a windy track.

The WRX STi may be fast for a while, until you smashing the pedal at every stop sign blows your turbo. Then you're just like every other I-4 out there.

585342001[/snapback]

Hey, smartguy, the STi doesn't have an I4 :laugh:

More cylinders always mean more power when you're in reference to a sports car there chap. While the Accord V6 isn't really a sports car, it is much faster than any stock I-4 that Honda offers [other than the S2000].

585345902[/snapback]

Uh ... no. May I point out the old 4 cylinder F1 cars that produced what ... 700-800 hp?

The best bang for the buck cars are the Neon SRT-4, the WRX, and the Miata. There's a good reason so many club racers use those cars. Used ... there's tons of stuff out there. My vote would be for a Focus with a 5.0 :shifty:

  • 1 year later...

Uh ... no. May I point out the old 4 cylinder F1 cars that produced what ... 700-800 hp?

You are kidding me right? We can't even measure the power of a top fuel engine. They break the 5000 hp limit that the best dynos go up too. They can get your 700hp wimp ass 4 bangers power out of one cylinder!

We are all more stupid for having read your post.

You are kidding me right? We can't even measure the power of a top fuel engine. They break the 5000 hp limit that the best dynos go up too. They can get your 700hp wimp ass 4 bangers power out of one cylinder!

We are all more stupid for having read your post.

Uh.. yeah. Lets calm down. Since your new here it will probably be a good idea to read our ruleset: https://www.neowin.net/forum/rules.htm

Next time its a warn.

For the American's a Pontiac GTO. For the Brits, a Vauxhall Monaro.

The car differs slightly between it's various editions (Pontiac GTO in the U.S.A., Vauxhall Monaro in the UK, Chevrolet Lumina Coupe in the Middle East, and Holden Monaro in Australia) but for the most part it's the same. One of the fastest stock cars available, it's an American muscle car that can actually turn corners.

Not necessarily the best performance for it's price, but probably one of the best all round sports cars.

well all i can say.. is that i love cars from all countries... Ferrari's are amazing(been in many), subaru's WRX STI is just a little beast on the road, Camaro's beat mustangs hands down(sorry to all you ford fans).. i own an acura EL and love it.. hoping to replace it with an A-Spec TL..

but in my opinion.. the car is only as good as the driver.. you can have an enzo.. but if you drive like sh!t.. the car is useless...

one thing i think is hilarious by acura/honda.. is the new CSX/Civic with the paddle shift's.. the car has around 150hp.. now if they beefed up the RSX and put a v6 in it(say around 270+hp) with a 6spd paddle shift.. that car would sell like crazy.. just my idea..

03 cobra is probalby your best bang for your buck.

That's one hell of a mean machine. But in today's world with rocketing gas prices, American cars are (N). I used to be a die-hard muscle car fan, but with gas prices I like imports. :p

And I dont know what this rant about American cars comes from. Admittely some American cars aren't top whack, but there is a classic saying which holds true for American cars - there is no replacement for displacement. You can take all the turbo's, nitrous and all that other crap you want and stick it on a 2.0 4 cylinder motor, but you just can't beat the kind of muscle (and quite frankly soundtrack) that a big V8 or V10 will give you. If the sound of something like an American V8 just doesn't just make you smile, then I seriously doubt you have a real interest in motoring.

You forgot gas consumption too. :laugh:

Mustang = Ugly as sin.

WRX/Lancer = Not as hot as everyone says.

Acura TL = Hot car for a 4door

But Ferrari trumps almost all in terms of consistant quality damn good looking design.

See the F430 and tell me im wrong.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • It wouldn't be hard for me to turn off my TV, if I had one. For one thing, I never scroll Instagram. The only reason I have an account is because Meta created one when it merged the account systems for its various services.
    • OpenAI's new GPT-5.5-Cyber tops Claude Mythos 5 in vulnerability benchmark by Pradeep Viswanathan OpenAI today announced a major expansion of Daybreak, a cybersecurity initiative designed to help defenders find, validate, and fix software vulnerabilities earlier in the development process. The availability of powerful AI models has definitely changed the cybersecurity landscape by making vulnerability discovery much faster. However, the bigger bottleneck for the industry is now patching those vulnerabilities. Impacted software teams need to validate the discovered issues, understand their impact, develop fixes, test them, and deploy patches. Back in March, OpenAI launched a preview of Codex Security, which uses agentic reasoning with automated validation to discover high-impact issues and actionable fixes specific to the codebase. Since then, it has scanned more than 30 million commits across over 30,000 codebases; more than 70,000 findings were marked as fixed by human reviewers, while over 500,000 findings were automatically determined to be fixed. Now, OpenAI is releasing an updated Codex Security plugin that can run deep scans, review recent code changes, generate security reports, trace attack paths, validate findings, and create codebase-specific patches for human review. It can also triage findings from existing scanners, advisories, bug bounty reports, and ticketing systems. OpenAI says the plugin can export results to vulnerability management systems and integrate with workflows using SARIF files, CodeQL queries, the Codex CLI, and the Codex app. Back in May, OpenAI announced the preview of GPT-5.5-Cyber, a new model built on top of the recently released GPT-5.5, designed for specialized cybersecurity work. Today, OpenAI launched the full version of GPT-5.5-Cyber through a limited release for verified defenders. On CyberGym, GPT-5.5-Cyber scored 85.6%, compared with 81.8% for GPT-5.5 and 83.8% for Claude Mythos 5. It also scored 39.5% on ExploitGym, compared with 25.95% for GPT-5.5, and 69.8% on SEC-bench Pro, compared with 63.1%. OpenAI also announced the new Daybreak Cyber Partner Program, which will allow security vendors and service providers to use GPT-5.5 with Trusted Access for Cyber in their products and services. Accenture, Akamai, Cisco, Cloudflare, CrowdStrike, IBM, Palo Alto Networks, Proofpoint, SentinelOne, Wiz, Zscaler, and others were listed as initial partners for this program. OpenAI is also launching Patch the Planet with Trail of Bits, HackerOne, Calif, researchers, and maintainers. More than 30 open-source projects have committed to participate, including cURL, Go, Python, Sigstore, and pyca/cryptography.
    • AMD confirms 26.6.2 FSR driver breaks on many Windows PCs by Sayan Sen Earlier today AMD released a major graphics driver update as it brings support for FSR 4.1 to Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs. The new update, version 26.6.2, also brings support for Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced and more. And while the driver technically supports Windows 10 version 21H2 and newer, the tech giant has confirmed that there is a major issue with the new driver on non-Windows 11 PCs as it fails to launch properly on such systems. The error message says, "The version of AMD Software that you have launched is not compatible with your currently installed AMD graphics driver." Therefore on the surface it looks like a compatibility problem. AMD has also confirmed that the device manager will display the yellow bang or yellow exclamation sign alongside your GPU under the Display adapters dropdown. Here is what the Radeon team's official advisory recommends to affected users: "Users Running Windows 10 and AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.2 May Encounter Yellow Bang in Device Manager Affecting AMD Radeon RX Series Graphics ... Our Engineers are currently investigating this issue and will provide a fix once it is available. Affected users may revert to AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.1 as a temporary workaround." As such you should revert back to the previous 26.6.1 driver which was released earlier this month. In case you were looking to play Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced and DOOM: The Dark Ages | Revelations you will probably have to wait a while if you want the driver to support those games officially. You can find the support article here on Microsoft's website.
    • https://uupdump.net/selectlang...7829-4524-978d-7b5fe79263e3
    • A McDonald's restaurant uses about 1.5 to 2 million gallons of water per year for operations like food preparation, cleaning, and restrooms. That is a lot less than the 2,083 gallons of water per megawatt hour mentioned above.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      Almohandis earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Rookie
      dorf went up a rank
      Rookie
    • First Post
      mike_rumble earned a badge
      First Post
    • Dedicated
      tuben earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • Week One Done
      mnsgroup earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      505
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      208
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      100
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      88
    5. 5
      neufuse
      71
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!