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Visual C++ .Net vs Borland C++ Builder

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azcodemonkey

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  OfF3nSiV3 said:
are there any differences between the languages?

i mean, it's C++, but i've seen some books like 'Learn Borland C++'

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Between the languages, no difference. Between focus, certainly. Builder X is really targeted at developers that want to do cross-OS development for the enterprise(using CORBA). C++.NET is specifically for Windows development and all that comes with it.

I'd recommend C++.NET simply because Borland is moving towards supporting MS's technologies instead of developing their own. It used to be that Borland's framework for building Window's apps was superior to Microsoft's. Borland had the Visual Component Library(VCL) and it was all C++ code, visual development. It was way ahead of MS. They've abandoned it, pretty much, in favor of .NET and building tools for cross-OS dev.

You can still get the earlier version of C++ Builder that supports the VCL.

http://www.borland.com/cbuilder/

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Borland has a much richer API base to work with than Visual C++. But it can be tricky to port code over from one to the other sometimes, as the compilers are quite different. Try Visual C++ Express and the trial of Borland C++ Builder and see what you like better.

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C++ .NET is actually quite a bit different from normal C++. It's like VB or C# where you can design a form, double click a button, and have the event auto-generated for you. It's much simpler than writing real Windows code and at the same time you still get most of the advantages of C++. I don't know if it's better than the new Borland C++ though, since I have yet to try it.

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Visual C++ is probably the most popular most most favored compiler, because of it's history (i.e. Visual C++ 6.0) of quality and stablity.

Borland C++ is a less popular, but is a much more powerful and robust compiler. The IDE is also a lot more powerful than MSVC.

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C++ .NET is actually quite a bit different from normal C++. It's like VB or C# where you can design a form, double click a button, and have the event auto-generated for you. It's much simpler than writing real Windows code and at the same time you still get most of the advantages of C++. I don't know if it's better than the new Borland C++ though, since I have yet to try it.

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Well you have to understand that Visual C++ .NET can compile Managed C++ apps that run on the .NET Framework, and Win32 apps that run on Windows - not the .NET Framework. AFAIK, Borland's compiler only builds Win32 apps.

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Well you have to understand that Visual C++ .NET can compile Managed C++ apps that run on the .NET Framework, and Win32 apps that run on Windows - not the .NET Framework. AFAIK, Borland's compiler only builds Win32 apps.

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Builder X builds for Windows, Linux, or Solaris. It doesn't have any RAD tools with it, so if you program win32 gui stuff, you'll be doing it the old-fashioned way.

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No, C++ .NET is not what's used to compile normal C++ code. Visual Studio/Visual C++ .NET comes with two seperate implementations of C++, one that's managed (.NET) and a classic one.

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I think you're confusing C++.NET and managed C++. One's a product name, and one's a technology. You can compile standard C++ with C++.NET. It's the same compiler, cl.exe, that is used for managed C++. You only need to add the /clr to your command-line to enable the managed extensions.

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  OfF3nSiV3 said:
thanks for the replies..i

i only know ansi c++ (the one you use with devc++) so which one of these is most indicated for a newbie like me?

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For a newb, I'd recommend something free. Either Eclipse with the CDT, or Dev-C++.

http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/

http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html

If you really feel compelled to go with a commercial app, you can get a Personal Edition of Borland C++ Builder X for $10 for the CD.

http://shop.borland.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entr...RP=0&CACHE_ID=0

Also, Microsoft has a Visual C++.NET Standard for $99($93 at http://www.programmersparadise.com).

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