easternBrain Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 A beta or test version of Internet Explorer 7 will debut this summer, Microsoft's chairman and chief software architect said in a keynote address at the RSA Conference 2005. The company had said that it would not ship a new IE version before the next major update to Windows, code-named Longhorn, arrives next year. Do you trust IE7? Will you switch back to IE? I am always eager to get hold of any new Microsoft product related with my needs..... anything new from Microsoft is supposedly better than any market equavalent, i feel that way.... maybe Linux and Mac fans will strongly disagree with me, but this is my personal opinion influenced from Microsoft's product launch and subsequent market capture history..... what do you all think about this aspect?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
galoosh33 Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I'll get IE7. Though now I use Maxthon... Microsoft does a good job overall ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanekiwi Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 no. i'm using firefox atm (ramhog tho) and am switching to maxthon by now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Lampkins Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 You don't say? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrischua83 Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I using Maxthon now too. :) I had tried Firefox , but now still stick with IE, just feeling Microsoft is more user-friendly for 'something' which I can't tell out now.. IE7? Is a Must Have for me! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyi Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I think i would still stick iwth firefox unless the new IE is more powerful Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypoxiaicon Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 All this speculation sucks. Come on guys, atleast wait till a BETA IE Explorer 7 is released before you start saying which is best and which you should still use. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniacidz Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 All this speculation sucks.Come on guys, atleast wait till a BETA IE Explorer 7 is released before you start saying which is best and which you should still use. 585497870[/snapback] Agree Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Do you trust IE7? Will you switch back to IE? 585497702[/snapback] Probably not. Unless they make some huge rendering engine changes and a completely rethought security system (really in Windows), there's no appeal to it. I am always eager to get hold of any new Microsoft product related with my needs..... anything new from Microsoft is supposedly better than any market equavalent, i feel that way.... maybe Linux and Mac fans will strongly disagree with me, but this is my personal opinion influenced from Microsoft's product launch and subsequent market capture history..... what do you all think about this aspect?? 585497702[/snapback] I would somewhat disagree. While some people do believe Microsoft products are the best, the real fact is that they only really gain market share from Windows, which was only really bought because it was cheaper than Macintosh when it came out. Now that there truly are better alternatives at comparable prices, individuals may be able to switch, but that still leaves large companies that would have to spend a lot of time and money to completely change their infrastructure. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZOOzzoo Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I always keep going back to IE after using alternatives, simply because I find it fastest compared to others. (with exception of Opera, but I don't like the ad) Improvement on the IE engine means improvement on Maxthon, so I'm looking forward to this update. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadBoat89 Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Hopefully 7 will be better than 6. It is very slow on my computer, and I just reformated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I'm just going to try IE7 IF it comes out. Will stick to Firefox until then Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FaX Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 This thread is sad :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolslacker Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I am using firefox and really happy with it. However, I'll try IE7. I would go with whichever is better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585497984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 All I want is tabs from IE7... that's all I ask ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2005 Ill stick with Firefox as it's more customizable, and the rendering engine supports much more than IE's (But IE's is still faster) I just hope the rendering engine will be upgraded, some people (Mostly rabid MS fan-boys (there's more than one type)) dont want to see it updated to support current standards (which i dont understand why) but i really hope it is, CSS can really do some cool things, and MS seems to ignore that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternBrain Posted February 19, 2005 Author Share Posted February 19, 2005 :( seems like i just hurt a lot of firefoxians, but the heartning new is that I also use firefox sometimes :) But if we consider today's browser market, we have to logically speculate that a Company like Microsoft will use breakthrough technologies in IE7 to bring all the browser market share wars at an end and like IE has done in the history, it will again make the other Browsers work hard to keep up with it.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazcook Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I use Maxthon - which uses the IE engine - and is likely what IE 7 is going to be a about from a front-end view. Tabs, ad and pop-up blockers, skins, that sort of thing. But I think that the only way IE7 is going to be markedly better than 6 is if they start from scratch and build a new, more secure browser. Given MS's history on such things, that ain't likely to happen, so they'll just buyout someone else's technology/browser and make it their own. See Antispyware, AV products, WinOS defrag, etc , etc..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2005 I'm all for new (and cool) web technologies, but if microsoft does introduce any, i want it to be a standard, not a "we are microsoft, so lets throw our weight around and make a new standard" i want them agreed upon by the industry, like XHTML, CSS, XML, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan C Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 This thread is sad :| 585497980[/snapback] How so? We are just having a discussion about IE7. Please shut up, troll. Anyway, I can't wait for IE7. I don't really care for the features, but would be nice to see some new features, like a download manager. I do hope they add things like transparent PNG support and better web standard support. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZOOzzoo Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 This thread is sad :| 585497980[/snapback] And you are......... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mx Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 hahaha :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternBrain Posted February 19, 2005 Author Share Posted February 19, 2005 I use Maxthon - which uses the IE engine - and is likely what IE 7 is going to be a about from a front-end view. Tabs, ad and pop-up blockers, skins, that sort of thing.But I think that the only way IE7 is going to be markedly better than 6 is if they start from scratch and build a new, more secure browser. Given MS's history on such things, that ain't likely to happen, so they'll just buyout someone else's technology/browser and make it their own. See Antispyware, AV products, WinOS defrag, etc , etc..... 585498056[/snapback] well maybe i dint make my self clear, thats exactly what I was saying, they are gonna buy the best technology or maybe use the best developers and use them to make IE7 a out of reach standard for other Browser developer teams/companies..... thats is their history, and theres no doubt they are gonna repeat the history all over again. :yes: I dont think it is too early for other mainstream browser to start thinking about new versions ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2005 (edited) they are gonna buy the best technology or maybe use the best developers and use them to make IE7 a out of reach standard for other Browser developer teams/companies..... thats is their historyI dont think it is too early for other mainstream browser to start thinking about new versions ;) 585498124[/snapback] Well, i dont want this to sound like a flame, cause it's not. Unless IE7 is some stella thing, it will most likely be beaten. Their rendering engine has had almost no development work since IE4, and it most likely will be the same with IE7. (which is a bad thing, cause im doing work with web designing at the moment, and i dont want to keep having to change my CSS file to support IE bugs) Also, unless the development of all other browsers have stalled, there will be new versions. Edited February 19, 2005 by The_Decryptor Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternBrain Posted February 19, 2005 Author Share Posted February 19, 2005 Well,i dont want this to sound like a flame, cause it's not.Unless IE7 is some stella thing, it will most likely be beaten. There rendering engine has had almost no development work since IE4, and it most likely will be the same with IE7. (which is a bad thing, cause im doing work with web designing at the moment, and i dont want to keep having to change my CSS file to support IE bugs) Also, unless the development of all other browsers have stalled, there will be new versions. 585498159[/snapback] do you use firefox?? most likely yes. I must make one thing clear at his point, i am not a supporter of firefox or IE, I only prefer to use the bettter product, that can make my surfing experience better.... and right now I use both simultaneously, Firefox more than IE cos of the tab feature, but IE with SP2 is generally better performer.. I did no mean that new versions wont be there.... but that they must be somewhere near the IE7. However, if you are aware of marketing (or market grabbing) concepts, you can understand that strategically Microsoft needs to do something to make IE7 a stella which isn't difficult et all for the"paid" developers it employs, cos its already lost a big share to Firefox and Opera like browsers.. and the situation is an all time bad for the present version of IE. Just ask those who are using IE after SP2, they'll tell you that even without a engine update it is a lot better, as I use both simutaneously I can tell you IE is generally the better performer.. Also, an engine update or even a complete redo can not be written off, Just wait and watch...... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287324-ie7-coming-this-summer/#findComment-585498241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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