Change hard drive serial number

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Besides it's not possible...

Too my knowledge the HD serial number is stored in write once ROM chip that is set once and can not be changed...

Besides there is NO reason to change your HD serial number, NOT ONE!

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Doing so may cause the WinXP product activation to report the computer is different, so caution on this reguard.

Changing the serial number would also be useful to someone who stole a HD, since the serial is sent out upon activating WinXP. :ninja:

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All I know is that you have no legitimate reason to want to be doing this. If you were using cracks in a game, got busted, and got banned, that's exactly what you deserve.

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Um cracks are perfectly legit.......what if I dont wanna put but CD/DVD every time I wanna play a damn game? Thats my problem...

Yall too stuck up with your "dont cheat/hack" stuff. Chill out....

Anyways the reason Im looking for a HD serial number changer is that I know a person that accidently booted their Xbox up with a modchip, went to play Halo 2 on Xbox Live and now is banned (well his hard drive is banned). So if we change the serial he can once again play online using Xbox Live. So from now on lets get some real posts saying how to change the hard drive serial....

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So you want to change the serial... on your XBox? I don't think that's possible, short of buying another XBox and swapping hard drives.

Then again, I don't even know if that's possible. As far as I'm aware, your friend is going to have to take a loss on that one. Hopefully someone will be along to help you.

And FYI, no CD cracks (which I wasn't talking about, by the way) aren't legal. At all. You're not allowed to change the code of the games that you buy, and guess what a no-CD crack does? Exactly. Changes the code so you can get around the security on the disc.

Despite that fact, like I said before.... I don't think there's a way to do what you're talking about. The problem has interested me to the point where I think I'll look around on Google and see what I can see though.

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And FYI, no CD cracks (which I wasn't talking about, by the way) aren't legal. At all. You're not allowed to change the code of the games that you buy, and guess what a no-CD crack does? Exactly. Changes the code so you can get around the security on the disc.

Despite that fact, like I said before.... I don't think there's a way to do what you're talking about. The problem has interested me to the point where I think I'll look around on Google and see what I can see though.

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They are perfectly legal because if they wasnt there would be alot of web sites shut down....

And thanks for looking. BTW it doesnt have to be for a drive that was in a Xbox...

Could be more any drive

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They are perfectly legal because if they wasnt there would be alot of web sites shut down....

And thanks for looking. BTW it doesnt have to be for a drive that was in a Xbox...

Could be more any drive

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Actually they are NOT perfectly legal, they fall into a "grey" area of the law. Make no mistake in the past modchip sites have been shut down and modchips were deemed completely illegal in some countries (like australia)

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If you are looking to change a Xbox hard drives serial there is no way short of getting a new hard drive....If you stuck a new one in it might still not work....When you first go on Live it like logs on what you have and everything...if you ever go on again without the hardware it first had then most of the time you are screwed and can never go on live again...or that was my understanding.....

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If you are looking to change a Xbox hard drives serial there is no way short of getting a new hard drive....If you stuck a new one in it might still not work....When you first go on Live it like logs on what you have and everything...if you ever go on again without the hardware it first had then most of the time you are screwed and can never go on live again...or that was my understanding.....

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Xbox Live checks for hardware modifications, eeprom, and the serial of the HD. The modchip can be turned off and the eeprom can be reflashed so the only thing needed is the serial number changed

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Actually they are NOT perfectly legal, they fall into a "grey" area of the law. Make no mistake in the past modchip sites have been shut down and modchips were deemed completely illegal in some countries (like australia)

To sell them publically is illegal. But the stores online arnt. Also modchips are illegal EXCEPT in one country: Spain :p

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Good luck as im sure MS probably has a database similar to what most PC manufacturers have...

For instance if i type in my serial number (Service Tag) on Dell's website i get a list of all the hardware in my PC when they shipped it. I'm sure MS has (or will have) something simlar to that for the XBOX, because afterall you're not supposed to open it at all... ever...

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Good luck as im sure MS probably has a database similar to what most PC manufacturers have...

For instance if i type in my serial number (Service Tag) on Dell's website i get a list of all the hardware in my PC when they shipped it. I'm sure MS has (or will have) something simlar to that for the XBOX, because afterall you're not supposed to open it at all... ever...

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IM not sure if that frase about suppose to open it is entirly true....We do void our warrenty but for somethings that are done to the Xbox they look great.

And Microsoft does not have that database because they are not registered as a "PC Maker/Distrubuter" because they have not once made/labeled a PC with the Microsoft name so I doubt they will do it for a console.

Plus its already been exposed that the only things Xbox Live checks for is the

eeprom (which can be reflashed if banned), hardware modifications to the motherboard (modchip, RAM ect. The drives are not checked. The modchip can be disabled) and the serial number on the Xbox that was first used with Xbox Live on the machine (which until someone here can show me the program to modify the serial is the only check that cant be bypassed from a ban)

Im counting on Neowin :D

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  rIaHc3 said:
IM not sure if that frase about suppose to open it is entirly true....We do void our warrenty but for somethings that are done to the Xbox they look great.

And Microsoft does not have that database because they are not registered as a "PC Maker/Distrubuter" because they have not once made/labeled a PC with the Microsoft name so I doubt they will do it for a console.

Plus its already been exposed that the only things Xbox Live checks for is the

eeprom (which can be reflashed if banned), hardware modifications to the motherboard (modchip, RAM ect. The drives are not checked. The modchip can be disabled) and the serial number on the Xbox that was first used with Xbox Live on the machine (which until someone here can show me the program to modify the serial is the only check that cant be bypassed from a ban)

Im counting on Neowin :D

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I'm not sure if you understood what i was saying... There is no reason why MS wouldnt have a database of that information, because they are making hardware. This database isnt a requirement to be called a "PC Maker" or anything else and only serves to help the company itself.

The reason im sure I'm accurate when i say you're not supposed to open it ever is because of XBOX live. If you were allowed to open it and only suffer the consequence of a voided warrenty it wouldnt be possible to ban people from XBOX live as afterall they are allowed to open their consoles and do as they see fit.

MS has this database im pretty sure of to prevent things like this and hardware swaps to enhance warrenty's. What i mean by that is you taking a part from your broken XBOX (which is no longer warrented) and sticking it in your friends (who's is still under warrenty) XBOX then sending it to MS, getting it fixed, and then reswapping the parts achieving a repair on ineligable parts...

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I'm not sure if you understood what i was saying... There is no reason why MS wouldnt have a database of that information, because they are making hardware. This database isnt a requirement to be called a "PC Maker" or anything else and only serves to help the company itself.

Um they are not making hardware. Dell does not make hardware they just put a PC together and just brand it with their name. MS is even less in this as they are not making a PC but a console.

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The reason im sure I'm accurate when i say you're not supposed to open it ever is because of XBOX live. If you were allowed to open it and only suffer the consequence of a voided warrenty it wouldnt be possible to ban people from XBOX live as afterall they are allowed to open their consoles and do as they see fit.

They ban people because of modified parts because there are trainers for Xbox games and they wanna keep goes out of Xbox Live. If there werent any they wouldnt care

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MS has this database im pretty sure of to prevent things like this and hardware swaps to enhance warrenty's. What i mean by that is you taking a part from your broken XBOX (which is no longer warrented) and sticking it in your friends (who's is still under warrenty) XBOX then sending it to MS, getting it fixed, and then reswapping the parts achieving a repair on ineligable parts...

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If your machine is banned from the serial number from a harddrive but is swapped with a brand new hard drive and the eeprom is flashed you can perfectly go on Xbox Live again.

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Here's the definition of hardware in relation to computers

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computer equipment and peripherals:

the equipment and devices that make up a computer system as opposed to the programs that are used on it

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/Hardware.html

Just so you are aware the XBOX is a computer, it's just designed for a different purpose.

Also by your definition there are very very few hardware makers in the industry... As Asus dosent "build" the motherboard they just assemble a whole bunch of parts from various vendors that end up being the final board, much in the same way that Dell assembles various parts to make a PC, both are hardware makers...

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Um they are not making hardware. Dell does not make hardware they just put a PC together and just brand it with their name. MS is even less in this as they are not making a PC but a console.

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The XBOX contains everything a PC would: system board, processor, memory, etc. So it IS a computer. I do believe they make the system boards for the XBOX, I could be wrong. Microsoft do make hardware such as keyboards, mice, mostly input devices. I would consider Microsoft a hardware manufacturer. Being into computers almost my whole life, I'd have to say frazell is correct on the definition and I have to agree with almost everything he is saying.

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Your consistent arent you :p

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Here's the definition of hardware in relation to computers

Just so you are aware the XBOX is a computer, it's just designed for a different purpose.

Once again in relation to computers. Xbox (out-of-the-box) cannot be used as a computer. Neither can Playstation 2 or Gamecube. They all have computer parts inside (CPUs, Graphics Card, Memory ect) but they are not computer

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Also by your definition there are very very few hardware makers in the industry... As Asus dosent "build" the motherboard they just assemble a whole bunch of parts from various vendors that end up being the final board, much in the same way that Dell assembles various parts to make a PC, both are hardware makers...

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Nope what your saying is not a compering to what I said. Does Asus make a full tower with their name on it and include (for example) CDs that can only be installed on a Asus machine? No. Asus is a motherboard maker while Dell is a PC vendor/distrubuter (sp?). They are 2 whole different things. You can see a Asus part inside of a Dell but youll never see a Dell part inside of a (non-existing) Asus.

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Microsoft do make hardware such as keyboards, mice, mostly input devices. I would consider Microsoft a hardware manufacturer

While you are correct (I forgot about MS' input devices) they do not make internal hardware such as harddrives and such and do not make make motherboards.

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