• 0

[VB.NET] Send form to always be in the back?


Question

17 answers to this question

Recommended Posts

  • 0
  gameguy said:
Why? What's the point of even having a form to show anything if it's never going to be seen?

585546886[/snapback]

Well, I want it to be in front while the form is visible, but when it is not visible it still takes the focus away from other windows that are open (which is a huge problem).

  • 0

I don't get it. When a form isn't visible (hidden or closed), it's not taking focus away from other windows :huh:

Also, wait at least 24 hours to bump a thread (Y) Not everyone is in the same time zone, not everyone is online every day, and not everyone checks every thread in every forum ;)

  • 0
  gameguy said:
I don't get it. When a form isn't visible (hidden or closed), it's not taking focus away from other windows :huh:

Also, wait at least 24 hours to bump a thread (Y) Not everyone is in the same time zone, not everyone is online every day, and not everyone checks every thread in every forum ;)

585550836[/snapback]

Sorry about the bump. :blush:

  weenur said:
I'm a little confused, too. How is it that a child window on a hidden form is taking focus?

585552122[/snapback]

The webbrowser control (the IE component) on the form automatically brings the form to the fore front. So when the form is visible, the form is on top of every other form - however, when the form is not visible the form just steals focus from the current window with focus.

I was thinking of a way to solve it- would it be possible to detect the process that has focus automatically. For example, if I have Firefox as my active window and then I switch to notepad as my active window, could I detect that change in focus using an existing library or class? That way I could automatically send focus back to the window that my form stole focus from.

I'm not asking you to write code for me, I just want to know if such a class exists.

Thanks

  • 0
  gameguy said:
I still don't see how a control on a hidden form is taking focus... can you post some code and a screenshot?

585552765[/snapback]

It's the webbrowser control. It's like using Internet Explorer and getting a pop-up. The webbrowser control somehow hooks into my program's form and sets it as the active form. A screenshot wouldn't really show you much - but I'll try to explain it a little better.

I create a program that sits in the system tray (just a little icon) while the form is invisble. While it's hidden I programmatically visit site and extract the important information from the HTML file. The problem is that some sites act as a "pop-up" and try to mimic the behavior of a popup. When the form is visible the form really does pop-up. It also pops-up when the form is invisible, but it remains invisible, so all that you see happening is the form taking the focus away from the window you were working in.

Maybe there is a way to suppress the browser control from altering any of the properties of my program. I'm not really sure. It's really bugging the heck out of me though.

  • 0
  weenur said:
Perhaps you should use the WebClient object to get your page data instead of the browser control, and only use the browser control when you want to display something.

585553577[/snapback]

I do ocassionally look at the rendered page - so the browser control is necessary.

  • 0

Try This:

Add a checkbox to the form.

- In my code I used "khchk" as the name of the checkbox.

Change "Form1" to whatever your form name is in the code below.

This makes sure it doesn't pop up without permission from the user(by checkbox).

 ? ?Private Sub Form1_GotFocus(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Me.GotFocus

? ? ? ?If Me.khchk.Checked = True Then

? ? ? ? ? ?Me.Visible = False

? ? ? ?End If

? [b]This minimizes the form to tray.[/b] form to tray.

[code] ? ?Private Sub Form1_Resize(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Me.Resize

? ? ? ?If Me.WindowState = FormWindowState.Minimized Then

? ? ? ? ? ?Me.Visible = False

? ?[b]Restores the window. This code is needed for the next code clip[/b]s needed for the next code clip

[code] ? ?Private Sub RestoreWindow()

? ? ? ?Me.Visible = True

? ? ? ?If Me.Visible = True Then

? ? ? ? ? ?Me.WindowState = FormWindowState.Normal

? ? ? ? ? ?Me.TopMost = True

? ? ? ?End If

? ? ? ?If Me.TopMost = True Then

? ?[b]This makes the form visible or hidden depending on whether it is visible or not and whether the checkbox is checked or not.[/b]ther it is visible or not and whether the checkbox is checked or not.

[code] ? ?Private Sub unhide()

? ? ? ?If Me.Visible = False Then

? ? ? ? ? ?If Me.khchk.Checked = False Then

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Me.RestoreWindow()

? ? ? ? ? ?End If

? ? ? ?El[b]This is an option for a button to check to checkbox and keep the form from showing itself.[/b]/code]

This is an option for a button to check to checkbox and keep the form from showing itself.

[code] ? ?Private Sub KeepHidden()

? ? ? ?If Me.khchk.Checked = True Then

? ? ? ? ? ?Me.k[b]Add a context menu to the tray icon with a button that runs: Me.unhide() and a button that runs Me.KeepHidden()

Like maby just the tray icon's click sub[/b]h a button that runs: Me.unhide() a[b][color=lightblue]DigitalSnow[/color][/b]e tray icon's click sub

Hope this helps,

[color=lightblue]DigitalSnow[/color]

Edited by DigitalSnow
  • 0
  VB Guy said:
I do ocassionally look at the rendered page - so the browser control is necessary.

585553724[/snapback]

Then I suggest you use a WebClient object and when you wish to view the page, create a WebBrowser on the fly (Y)

  • 0

I'd be interested in this to....basically, if the z-order of the form gets changed, it sends itself right back to the bottom of the order. I'm just not sure what event is triggered, if any, when the z-order gets changed. If I know that, then I can simply use a sendtoback command.

  • 0
  Cool4 said:
well, i see everyone is creating a browser for SJ :p

i think you should look in the webbrowser control methods because it's WB that is taking the focus even if the form is hidden

585560391[/snapback]

SJ? I'm not sure what that stands for.

Anyway - I do recall seeing some code written for VB 6 that showed how to do it - but I can't find it. It was at PSCode.com. If anyone has any progress don't hesitate to post. I'll keep looking too - there has to some API that can accomplish this.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • It’s encouraging that Intel is still competing, the best they can, in the gpu space.
    • Windows 11 KB5062233/ KB5060843/ KB5062197/ KB5061090 setup, recovery updates released by Sayan Sen This week Microsoft released non-security preview updates for Windows 11 22H2 and 23H2 under KB5060826 as well as for 24H2 under KB5060829. The company also published dynamic updates alongside them. Dynamic updates bring improvements to the Windows Recovery in the form of Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) updates, also called Safe OS updates, as well as to the Setup binaries in the form of Setup updates. These Dynamic Update packages are meant to be applied to existing Windows images prior to their deployment. These packages include fixes to Setup.exe binaries, SafeOS updates for Windows Recovery Environment, and more. Dynamic Updates also help preserve Language Pack (LP) and Features on Demand (FODs) content during the upgrade process. VBScript, for example, is currently an FOD on Windows 11 24H2. Both setup and recovery updates were released. The changelogs are given below. First up we have the Setup updates: Up next, we have the recovery updates: Microsoft notes that the Recovery updates will be downloaded and installed automatically via the Windows Update channel. The Setup updates, however, need to be downloaded and installed manually. You can avail them on Microsoft's Update Catalog website: KB5062233, KB5060843, KB5062197, and KB5061090.
    • Gaming mouse review: Keychron Lemokey G2 8K Wireless, high performance, light in weight by Robbie Khan Available in the UK and USA, the G2 is a wireless gaming mouse by Lemokey, the customised gaming peripheral arm of Keychron, a brand many readers will know well. I've checked out Keychron keyboards recently, models such as the top-tier Q6 Max, and the bargain priced B6 Pro. I never got the chance to check out the G1, but the G2 seems to put itself firmly in-between competing 8K gaming mice out there whilst coming in at a decent sum under £100/$100. The other benefit is that it uses Keychron Launcher, the web-based software that has been a staple part of Keychron keyboards for a long time now. I rate the launcher highly and have rarely had a problem with it, so it is great to see a robust piece of software being used on an affordable gaming mouse that's not only built well, but performs well, too. As it's a high performance gaming mouse with a flagship PixArt sensor, I will be comparing the G2 directly against my personal mouse, the similarly sized Pulsar Feinmann F01. Both mice are priced wildly differently, so it was interesting to compared several factors between them to see if one bests the other where it matters most, or if it just comes down to individual preferences. Let's check out the specs... Keychron Lemokey G2 SKU G2-A1 Sensor PixArt 3950 IPS 750 MCU Realtek 8762G Connectivity Bluetooth 5.1 / 2.4 GHz / Wired (type-C cable) Polling Rate Up to 8000 Hz (2.4 GHz / wired mode), 125 Hz (Bluetooth mode) Motion Sync Yes Angle Snapping Yes Acceleration 50g Cable Detachable Type-C to C Cable + Type-A to Type-C adapter Dongle Micro USB-A dongle Main switches Huano Micro Switch Switch lifespan 80 Million Clicks Battery 300 mAh Battery life 60 Hours (Under 1000Hz) 35 Hours (1000-4000Hz) 20 Hours (4000-8000Hz) Skates Teflon / PTFE Lift Off Distance 0.7 / 1.0 / 2.0 mm Material (Body and Grip) ABS Dimensions 118mm / 62.6mm / 38.2mm Tracks on glass (min. 4 mm thickness) Yes (max 1000Hz report rate) Weight 52 ± 3 g Colours Black / White Price £73.99 / $69.99 Fit and finish Made of all ABS, it certainly doesn't feel anywhere near as nice as the F01, but then again it's priced much lower, so no complaints there. To me it feels more like a previous generation Endgame/Zowie mouse, before they started to use the more grippy textured finish. It's a fine finish but how long that lasts only time will tell. With the Endgame mice I always found that the side buttons would go shiny first, and I suspect the exact same to apply here with the G2, since the size and shape of them is similar, as is the material quality. Speaking of side buttons, my personal preference is flat and large buttons, the long and pointed ones like those on the G2 shown above and GAMIAC PX71 at the bottom always felt a bit awkward to me for naturally resting a thumb on, whereas the large surface area of the ones found on the Feinmann and others like it feel more ergonomic and comfortable for long usage sessions. Pulsar Feinmann F01 (ergo shape) Lemokey G2 (ambidextrous shape) Under my 19cm hand, the G2 feels comfortable and stable for both claw and palm grip styles, though my usual style is a hybrid approach. I like to pinch a mouse with a thumb and ring finger, then articulate forward or backward movement with them to adapt to different play-styles. Both mice have a sloping back hump that works brilliantly for this and i had no problem getting comfortable with the G2 here. The underside of the G2 hides a cool feature I wish more more mice makers adopted, can you spot what it is in the photo below? That little flap at the bottom to store the USB dongle, it's convenient, especially for gamers who travel with their mice or laptop gamers. The skates applied are PTFE and cover three zones on the underside, sadly I forgot to take a photo of them before swapping them out to my preferred skates, the Wallhack Pro UWMP yellow dots. I found no problem with glide resistance on the stock skates, though find dots glide nicer overall and these yellow dots slide around like butter. Lemokey states 52g for the weight, give or take 3g, so my scales measure up perfectly here. It's not as lightweight as the Feinmann which currently is 45g, but it's still considered super-light and honestly, under the hand, this weight difference on dot skates is hard to tell apart. Gripping the G2 hard on both sides shows no obvious issues with flexing, so the internal construction is also up to scratch and exactly what i would expect in this price range. The differences start to be noticed when you are using the G2 as a combination mouse, both in gaming and desktop use. The wheel is thinner than the one on the Feinmann and other gaming mice with fat wheels. I much prefer a nice wide wheel, the diameter is also much larger as can be seen with the overhead photo above. The button tops also have a distinct difference in feel when actuating the switches. there is more of a hollow feel to the G2's tops, as well as slightly more travel post-click. the Huano switches feel and sound excellent, though, but I think the ABS contact surface on the outside could have been slightly more distinct in feel. Here is a demo of how the main switches sound, you can also hear the switch tops clap if you pay attention: Likewise the side buttons have extra play after the switches actuate, something the Feinmann and others in the higher price category don't tend to have. Features & software Aside from the usual features that all gaming mice support these days, such as Motion Sync, lift off distance and Macro, the big feature with the G2 is that is uses Keychron Launcher, the web-browser based software. All changes are stored directly onto the on-board memory, here is what the sections within it look like: I found no bugs with the implementation here, and unlike other Keychron wireless devices I have used with Launcher in the past, the G2 connects and can be customised in it over both wired and wireless. Just be aware that the firmware update option when connected via wireless will only check the dongle's firmware. To check the G2's firmware, a USB cable will need to be connected. Performance Whether on the desktop in Windows or in games, the cursor and motion performance is excellent, though this is to be expected from all modern gaming mice, regardless of price. The higher priced mice tend to have better use of high quality materials, and implementation of software and physical features. I'm currently pacing through nine games, all mixed genre, and in each of them I had no troubles quickly getting comfortable with the G2. If you're used to an Endgame XM2we sized mouse, then this will be just as familiar to you. The convenience of the DPI button at the top of the mouse instead of underside makes instant switching simpler, although the button can be remapped to do something else for those who don't care about DPI toggling. Here is a demo of the G2 playing Doom: The Dark Ages: The sensor tracking performance at 8K was perfect, aside from the few moments my physical movement on the mousepad slowed down causing some drops in the Razer mouse tracking measurement graph below: A consistent 7900-8000Hz polling was observed, though keep in mind that using such high polling rates will impact CPU performance whilst gaming. How much this affects framerates will boil down to the CPU you have. On my i7 12700KF there was no change whilst gaming, but during the measurement above I did observe 13% CPU package utilisation. In practice, though, I saw no performance difference playing at 8K versus 2K or even 1K. Battery life will drastically be impacted at 8K polling rates for obvious reasons, and whilst many prefer 4K, there is a growing trend to just stick to 2K which feels the safe middle ground of great battery performance, whilst still being suitably responsive on paper for even the most fast-paced of gaming sessions. Conclusion The Lemokey G2 has proven to be a rather excellent mouse, not just for gaming, but general use, too. Though being excellent doesn't give it any special status, as there are equally excellent mice out there that cost the same, less and even more. A buying decision will come down to individual needs, do you value the use of a browser-based software tool like Keychron Launcher? If so, then this is right up your street. Do you want something lightweight but also supports the gaming features and feel in the hand as more expensive mice? Maybe the G2 will satisfy. It's not totally perfect, nothing ever is, the thumb buttons could have been a bit wider, and the switch caps have more travel after clicking than what I am comfortable with, but otherwise this is a great mouse with features that rival the competition. The sensors on gaming mice these days isn't a key selling factor any more either, since even entry level gaming mice are capable of precision tracking and speed that was only possible on the top-tier models of the past, like many things in tech now, the point of diminishing returns has been reached, and brands have to work harder at giving us consumers a unique selling point to attract interest. I believe the G2 has at least one USP (Keychron Launcher), it also helps that it's a very comfortable mouse to use for all-day sessions.
    • Delays can happen any time and names changed, but the joke was still there to be made.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      Alexander 001 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      icecreamconesleeves earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Year In
      PAC0 earned a badge
      One Year In
    • One Month Later
      PAC0 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Year In
      Shahmir Shoaib earned a badge
      One Year In
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      564
    2. 2
      +FloatingFatMan
      187
    3. 3
      ATLien_0
      185
    4. 4
      Skyfrog
      113
    5. 5
      Xenon
      110
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!