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for my backup PC

DVDRW - Master

IDE HD - Slave

CDRW - Master

DVD-Rom - Slave

SATA HD

This is my current setup but my system hangs when trying to boot from CD, when I remove the IDE HD, it boots CD just fine - must be that I'm using HD as slave

If I do

IDE HD - Master

DVD-Rom - Slave

DVDRW - Master

CDRW - Slave

would any of u have any comments on this? See my siggy for exact hardware. Thanks for the input.

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  obiewankinobie said:
you should never mix HD's and optical drives on the same channel. This is why your system is hanging.

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Can you go into detail on this, i've done so before and ahave never experienced a hangup or slow down in performance

you can mix them, but the HD's performance will decrease to the optical drive's speed. Example: HD could be UDMA capable, but if the optical drive uses PIO, the HD will use PIO also.

I have heard others say don't mix HD and CD/DVD

in all my computers I have done that without issues. Your optical drives shouldn't go to PIO mode unless u're installing the wrong chipset drivers. My previous install of Windows, my LiteOn went into PIO mode cuz I installed older Intel chipset drivers that came with my mobo CD. I just reinstalled windows last week and didn't install them (I used the ones already on the WinXPSP2 CD) and now no PIO mode.

Anyways thanks for the input all :). I'll be testing things out tonight

I use my DVDRW just to burn DVDs and CDRW to burn CDs. Nothing beats my Plexy anyways in terms of quality of burns, even if it is slow.

ok so I was hunting and found some answers. It seems that in some cases mixing HD and CD/DVD is good and bad. Idealy it's best to separate but it's not always the best configuration. It depends on your own needs.

I'm trying ripgut's setup now :)

/off topic

I'm trying to install Windows on my SATA drive but it requires 3rd party drivers, loaded that on, drive recognized, partitioned, selected the partitioned drive on my SATA to install windows, it's installing it on my IDE :\ we'll see what happens later :(

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nm it's installing on SATA :)

Edited by gummyz

Hate to start another thread so I'm just looking for a little help

So it looks as if Windows installed on the SATA but now then when it goes thru the first reboot process it says there's some hardware configuration issue and it cannot boot from the specified hardware.

I went into the Bios and just made SATA as my boot device but whe doing that it says 'Disk boot failure and to enter a system disk'

My hardware is on the secondary PC. I'm going to try the updated Silimage drivers to see if that helps. Anyone know what could be wrong tho?

  obiewankinobie said:
you can mix them, but the HD's performance will decrease to the optical drive's speed. Example: HD could be UDMA capable, but if the optical drive uses PIO, the HD will use PIO also.

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Why do i see posts like this all the time? they are pure and flat wrong...

The HD will run at it's max speed and so would the optical drive... The only time either one would slow down is when both are sending data as the same time, since only one drive could be sending/receiving data at a time. Theres no magic slowdown by mixing IDE devices other than that, pure and simple...

nice one frazell, that's what I read too. Only one device on the channel may be in use at a time so therefore if you are transferring from Master to Slave, there's the slowdown. Channel to channel is ok :) further on that topic tho, older motherboards (probably like P2/P3/K7 days, or maybe P1 days lol) have a problem having 2 devices that are running at different ATA speeds and will revert to the lowest speed drive. This doesn't happen of course now tho.

Ok on my off topic part I got everything going now on my SATA drive. I had to use the new drivers for the Silimage since the store I bought it from upgraded the bios.

  frazell said:
Why do i see posts like this all the time? they are pure and flat wrong...

The HD will run at it's max speed and so would the optical drive... The only time either one would slow down is when both are sending data as the same time, since only one drive could be sending/receiving data at a time. Theres no magic slowdown by mixing IDE devices other than that, pure and simple...

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flat and wrong? I have the A+ certification here....i said it COULD affect performance. It doesn't necessarily do this on all systems.....just on some, and I was offering the advice for troubleshooting. Since the error occurs when he has the drive connected, and it goes away when he takes it off......WELL, DUH!!!!!!! :wacko: also: just noticed.....my edit didn't go through on my original post......d**n cable modem suspended itself.....

also...i can provide my certification number as proof of my knowledge. :D

you see....I joined this forum a long time ago.....then i disappeared.....only to emerge with a degree in electronics/pc repair. Give me an O-scope, and i'm in paradise...lol

Edited by obiewankinobie

thanks obiewan :) both of you are correct on the theories, I thought it never mattered at all

I think it may be the nvidia chipset that causes the hang. It seems like it would check the first device (primary master) as CD then it expects the slave as to be a CD also, just my own hypothesis.

what I wondered was about file transferring and esp burning. it seems that burn quality won't matter what configuration you have, which is what I was looking for the most. Now wish me luck on buffer underruns :\ lol

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