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its not an industry standard for anything. just because you people say it is, doesnt make it so.  ;)

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Let's see.....I'd like you to open a 'How Design Mag' and check out the 'their spaces' feature, every issue, all the design firms are toutin mac's....the newspaper I work @ (campus paper) is run on 15 or so powermacs....as is the newpaper my g/f works at.

It IS the standard...more so in the past...but that's not to say win machines can't cut it...it's just that's what macs are known for...

As for film, well...that's an equally all over the place medium. But I can tell you most lower budget film houses use macs and final cut pro HD.

It's not us that says it is...it's the industry.

Let's see.....I'd like you to open 'How Desisng Mag' and check out the 'their spaces' feature, every issue, all the design firms are toutin mac's....the newspaper I work @ (campus paper) is run on 15 or so powermacs....as is the newpaper my g/f works at.

It IS the standard...more so in the past...but that's not to say win machines can't cut it...it's just that's what macs are known for...

As for film, well...that's an equally all over the place medium. But I can tell you most lower budget film houses use macs and final cut pro HD.

It's not us that says it is...it's the industry.

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well its not the OFFICIAL industry standard. PC's dont say "Apple compatible DV software included" on them.

but in windows, you have the option of either

a)reshack for free

b)buy stylexp

c)buy window blinds

in OSX you have

a}buy shapshifter(IIRC)

well...

I work on final cut pro and shake at school on dual G5... they are pretty nice machines.. but when it comes to hardcore multitasking... I just think that even with a machine like that... my workflow lag as hell...

I've got to say that I prefer my dual Xeon P4 3Ghz than a dual G5....

...Yes Final Cuts rocks... but come on... it's a freakin editing software.... the new version of premiere does the exact same thing for me.... so I'd say I like final cut interface better... but the end result is the same...

As for shake, I like it.... but GOD DAMN I just prefer digital fusion on PC. Same node based interface... but personnally I think it's waaaay better... version 5 will even include raw 3d import ;) can't wait

And guys... please... I read somewhere in this thread that mac is the industry standard?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Hmmm... for who? web design firm?? heh.... I don't want to go overboard here but i've worked for multiple design firms and the majority of them (i'd say a good 90%) work completely on PC....

Some TV studio I've worked for had some final cut pro stations.... that I can't lie.... but all around.... PC is a lot more used in the industry.... from pharmaceutical companies... up to design firm....

anyway... just my two cents..

it's not like i've never been in the industry... or never tried a mac

just wanted to say what I feel :p

industry standard for what? what industry?

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exactly... some people should think twice before they write...

industry of what???

tell me... which company?? what standard??

I'm not trying to say that PC are the standard here....

but... for what I've seen....

mac are faaaaar from being the industry "preference"

Let's see.....I'd like you to open a 'How Design Mag' and check out the 'their spaces' feature, every issue, all the design firms are toutin mac's....the newspaper I work @ (campus paper) is run on 15 or so powermacs....as is the newpaper my g/f works at.

It IS the standard...more so in the past...but that's not to say win machines can't cut it...it's just that's what macs are known for...

As for film, well...that's an equally all over the place medium. But I can tell you most lower budget film houses use macs and final cut pro HD.

It's not us that says it is...it's the industry.

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what kind of design work? i do alot of 3d design/thermal modelling work. All the apps are either for unix or windows.

so does OSX magically change the UI every day?

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Yeah, it does but it seems to happen about every few months rather than every day. I'm just not sure it's really a feature.

  • Open a Finder window and take in brushed metal.
  • Then launch Mail and take in Aqua.
  • Start terminal and bask in text-based glory.
  • Start an X11 app like oo.org and use that "what platfrom is this UI designed for" look.
  • Launch GarageBand and take in the 1970's Atari interface style.
  • Swing over to Final Cut Pro to see the "Way to professional for you" dark aqua-ish look.
  • Take your FCP project into motion and let-loose in the "black monochrome transparent window orgy"
  • Start your favorite Java application to see the "Stuck in the OS X public beta" look
  • Launch an old copy of KidPix to see the old-school platinum interface.
  • Lauch some of the developer tools (Quartz Debug) to see the "I learned interface design at ITT Tech." style.

The next Mac OS promises to add the "ugly gimmick UI style" for dashboard widgets and the "not quiet aqua, not quiet brushed, but check out these ugly bubble icons" look for Mail and probably half a dozen other applications.

Yeah, it does but it seems to happen about every few months rather than every day. I'm just not sure it's really a feature.
  • Open a Finder window and take in brushed metal.
  • Then launch Mail and take in Aqua.
  • Start terminal and bask in text-based glory.
  • Start an X11 app like oo.org and use that "what platfrom is this UI designed for" look.
  • Launch GarageBand and take in the 1970's Atari interface style.
  • Swing over to Final Cut Pro to see the "Way to professional for you" dark aqua-ish look.
  • Take your FCP project into motion and let-loose in the "black monochrome transparent window orgy"
  • Start your favorite Java application to see the "Stuck in the OS X public beta" look
  • Launch an old copy of KidPix to see the old-school platinum interface.
  • Lauch some of the developer tools (Quartz Debug) to see the "I learned interface design at ITT Tech." style.

The next Mac OS promises to add the "ugly gimmick UI style" for dashboard widgets and the "not quiet aqua, not quiet brushed, but check out these ugly bubble icons" look for Mail and probably half a dozen other applications.

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lmao so true

what kind of design work? i do alot of 3d design/thermal modelling work.  All the apps are either for unix or windows.

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print/web design

3d/thermal...I have only seen on nix and win2000.

it doesn't matter what you work on, you can produc pdfs, tiffs, etc... on both a win/mac machine....so have at your preference...

Yeah, it does but it seems to happen about every few months rather than every day. I'm just not sure it's really a feature.
  • Open a Finder window and take in brushed metal.
  • Then launch Mail and take in Aqua.
  • Start terminal and bask in text-based glory.
  • Start an X11 app like oo.org and use that "what platfrom is this UI designed for" look.
  • Launch GarageBand and take in the 1970's Atari interface style.
  • Swing over to Final Cut Pro to see the "Way to professional for you" dark aqua-ish look.
  • Take your FCP project into motion and let-loose in the "black monochrome transparent window orgy"
  • Start your favorite Java application to see the "Stuck in the OS X public beta" look
  • Launch an old copy of KidPix to see the old-school platinum interface.
  • Lauch some of the developer tools (Quartz Debug) to see the "I learned interface design at ITT Tech." style.

The next Mac OS promises to add the "ugly gimmick UI style" for dashboard widgets and the "not quiet aqua, not quiet brushed, but check out these ugly bubble icons" look for Mail and probably half a dozen other applications.

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aka. apple cant make up their mind on a unified UI.

aka. apple cant make up their mind on a unified UI.

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so the independant window styling found on nix machines is something you'd never touch?

I think the different looks are fun, much more exciting then a blue gradient left to right and some grey, or some fischer price blue/gree and silver.

so the independant window styling found on nix machines is something you'd never touch?

I think the different looks are fun, much more exciting then a blue gradient left to right and some grey, or some fischer price blue/gree and silver.

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i AM a linux user ;)

yes, XP looks like ass unskinned, i agree, but i would prefer it if it all looked the same.

as for linux, i use KDE.

first, KDE apps use QT, duh.

second, gnome apps are done with the gtk-qt engine, which now is pretty mature, so gtk apps look like KDE apps as well

third, OOo has a KDE intefration pack which makes it look like, you guessed it, KDE.

fourth, azureus is the only java app i use, and surprise, surprise, it comes with crystal icons, the default for KDE.

so, yes, i do like a unified UI, and yes, i do use linux.

Edit: @^, i meant "you people" not just "you" :p im not sure if hes ever done it personally.

The problem with your topic b0b, is that it is obvious by the tone of your topic that your mind is already closed. So why even start this thread, you are just wasting everyones time. No reply is going to satisfy you (unless someone agrees with you) and its obvious.

The problem with your topic b0b, is that it is obvious by the tone of your topic that your mind is already closed. So why even start this thread, you are just wasting everyones time. No reply is going to satisfy you (unless someone agrees with you) and its obvious.

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bob, beh is right...heh, had to do that.

you're just baiting all the fanboi's into a falmewar...

hahaha, right clicking works in osx too  ;) Gives you the same kind of contextual menu.

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same kind of context menu, there just isnt anything in it :p

im not sure who it was, but ive heard mac users say that the osx>linux because the linux GUI isnt unified. you even just said it 5 posts ago. :shifty:

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