L E D 2

[insaneshaft]

and i'd like to add that if you make bevelled cheese to sell, purely because it IS what sells, as you did admit, it';s not wise to post said purpose built 'bevelled cheese for sale' on a forum where a majority of the users can detect a good design with their eyes closed.

and THEN, when they offer advice/critique, you in turn try to justify it as 'originality' over and over again.

like someone said, it's art & you can't pleae everyone, but don't try to play people for fools. (well the one's you arent making money off anyway :shifty: ) It's like a sweatshop factory worker going to a designer house in italy and telling them they know how to make clothes better because they sell more.

[Favorable7404]

It's G E L rather than L E D. :)

[Alan Zeino]

and to.. StenvonW, you give my homeland a bad name my friend. Pitiful.

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Do you mean the US? Cause I think its had a bad name for decades.

[Winswy]

no man... read his location. :rolleyes:

[Axel]

This style looks very unusable. You need to work on practicality as well as aesthetics... Right now it's very messy.

[BMac]

I have to tell you guys that you're wrong. Although you think that the style is unuseable it is not. As a beta tester I have seen first hand that this style is great and completely usable. I had it applied for so long that I opted to post it as my dt in the monthly thread. Do me a favour and try this style before you jump to conclusions. If you still feel that way after trying it then to each his own but until then don't even try to argue with me.

[Winswy]

I can tell you that i set out to make a useable, clean Dark style,

real close to pulling this one off... and thanks Bmac for you kind words and invaluable help.

:alien:

[Meshuggah]

getting better by the day

[Rob Veteran]

I have to tell you guys that you're wrong.  Although you think that the style is unuseable it is not.

People are allowed opinions. And the popular opinion is that the skin is largely unusable. You can't say we're "wrong", each to his own.

[+StevoFC MVC]

People are allowed opinions.? And the popular opinion is that the skin is largely unusable.? You can't say we're "wrong", each to his own.

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yes he can, because he has acutally used it. you are basing your opinion off of a single screenshot. once you havusedb> it, like only he has, you can tell us how unusable it is. if you still think so that is. but until then quit bitching. if you hate it so much get the hell out of the thread.

[Rob Veteran]

yes he can, because he has acutally used it. you are basing your opinion off of a single screenshot. once you have used it, like only he has, you can tell us how unusable it is. if you still think so that is. but until then quit bitching. if you hate it so much get the hell out of the thread.

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Let's not get so accusitive here, StevoFC. I was merely stating that someone telling us that we're wrong is a very poor way of offering an opinion. I haven't used the style no, nor was I giving an opinion myself. Those that have given an opinion are giving so with the only information they have available - the screenshot. My post was merely in response to his choice of language, and I don't appreciate the tone of your post.

[+StevoFC MVC]

My post was merely in response to his choice of language, and I don't appreciate the tone of your post.

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umm sorry, i guess :rolleyes:

[Winswy]

I can assure any and everyone posting that my work is totally useable in every area of the windows interface, I pride myself on making usuable, provocative skins that offer maximum userbility and customization with respect to the balance needed for both.

Thanks StevoFC and Rob.. theres no such word as accusitive.

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First post \ screeny, updated y'all :)

[Rob Veteran]

...and Rob.. theres no such word as accusitive.

I don't want to get petty about this, but yes, while I may have spelt it incorrectly, the word does exist:

ac?cu?sa?tive  Audio pronunciation of "accusative" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (-kyz-tv)

adj.

  1. Of, relating to, or being the grammatical case that is the direct object of a verb or the object of certain prepositions.

  2. Accusatory.

ac?cu?sa?to?ry  Audio pronunciation of "Accusatory" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (-kyz-t?r, -tr) also ac?cu?sa?to?ri?al (-t?r-l, -tr-)

adj.

    Containing or implying accusation: an accusatory glare.

Your theme may not be to everyone's taste. Sure, it may "pay your bills", a fact you're touting quite heavily, but reading through the thread I find it sad that on several occasions you've made unnecessary remarks to anyone that has posted anything but praise. One example is that people should stop making the same comments on all your work; but if that's what they feel about all your work, why shouldn't they? Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not meaning to flame you, I just think you need to take criticism a little better if you're to post your c:)ations here :)

Edited April 27, 2005 by Rob

[wstaylor]

All accusations aside...

I have used this skin. I think that the skin is amazing and very detailed! It has color where color should be it has brightness where brightness should be... all of the roll-overs are in tact. Overall this skin is very pleasing to the eyes and very well designed.

9/10 VStyler !!!

[Winswy]

..umm.. u didnt say accusative you said accusitive.. may i suggest you look a little more carefully next time? at the grammar and dare i say..at the theme? :)

thanks Wstaylor..well put.

[Rob Veteran]

..umm.. u didnt say accusative you said accusitive.. may i suggest you look a little more carefully next time? at the grammar and dare i say..at the theme?

And may I request you look more carefully at my post, where I stated "but yes, while I may have spelt it incorrectly, the word does exist". And if we're being picky, my grammar was impeccable, even if my spelling was not.

And why are you suggesting I look more carefully at your theme? Just because I don't particularly like it, does not mean I'm wrong or that my eyesight needs checking! It's just a personal opinion, can we just agree to disagree here because this is getting very petty, and for the theme author to get into an argument over one person diagreeing with them is very sad indeed.

Edited April 27, 2005 by Rob

[daydream nation]

Although still not my taste, I can definitely see a positive evolution in this theme since the first screenshot.

However, if you want to be nitpicky: there's no such word as 'userbility' either, Winswy.

[Winswy]

Although still not my taste, I can definitely see a positive evolution in this theme since the first screenshot.

However, if you want to be nitpicky: there's no such word as 'userbility' either, Winswy.

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:laugh: @ myself

[BMac]

Look Rob if you are offended by what I said I'm sorry. I wasn't intending to attack anyone, however I see trolls in all of Winswy's threads that will bad mouth the vs without even giving it a chance. I've tested the vs and I wanted to clarify to all that it is usable.

It may not be your tastes, hell it's not even my taste as I am a minimalist. I try to make an effort to not let my agenda get in the way and judge all of Winswy's works fairly. I respect everyones right to free speech, but after you've made your insulting comment, can't you please leave this poor guy alone. All he is doing is trying to feed his family and some people here tear a strip off his back for no reason. I don't know how John takes it. I know I wouldn't.

@ Stevo: Thanks for clarifying my post faster than I was able to.

[Meshuggah]

WELL, after just finishing the 'port' from IEbar to Y'z Toolbar, I can say the theme is coming along nicely. V-S is working his ass off to try and finish the theme up :) Hopefully he releases it soon and gets to work on the next theme which is what im stoked for. After using this theme for a few mins, it's easily a very user friendly theme. It's very dark but is still very bright by the font color choices. I have one complaint about the Font, as it can be a little too futuristic for me, but that's kind of the whole point of this theme.

One thing that should be pointed out is the attention to detail V-S puts into these Visual Styles. A screenshot doesn't really do justice to any of his themes, as there are little mouse overs and stuff like that that just suprises you when you first test it out. I really like that about these themes. Of course, I'm a half minimalist. There are some things that even at 1680x1050 seem a little big to me, but thats just because i like a smaller size startbar. But I didn't spend hundreds of hours making this theme, so yea. There's a lot of details I'd like to show off, but I think we will just have to wait until it's completely finished, plus I really don't feel like taking a screenshot right now. :)

I wish I could say more, but there is only so much you can say. However, let's again make one thing clear about the theme.

IT IS USABLE I could easily use this day to day, especially LED Red.

8.5/10 - It would be a ten if I wasn't a half minimalist.

*waits for his shellstyle*

:::forgot to say, Wallpapers own too, good stuff

[Winswy]

LED 2 is now complete, ive tried to make it the most advanced, useable and perhaps provocative dark theme ever designed.

Look for it around 8 pm tonite on MAXstyles.com...

Thanks to all my beta testers and those who have supported me throughout this endeavour.

[Winswy]

RELEASED !...11 pm !

www.maxstyles.com

[rschultz2002]

Another pay theme. I thought Neowin said no pay themes. :no: :unsure: Stupid ad again.

[xMorpheousx416]

I think it kicks ass. Very well done. However, since I am an artist that shares my work for free, I am not inclined to purchase the work of another...

Trust me, I know how many hours can be put into work like that, but unless you're doing it strictly for a living, those of us that present work of this type are doing it in our spare time anyways for the use and enjoyment of others.