brokenlavalamp Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 hi i found this program and i used it to resize the clusters on my ntfs drive http://www.paragon-gmbh.com/f_fm.htm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenomorph Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 wow thanks! i was looking for something like this. Partition Magic 7.1 (or is it 7.01?) doesnt support cluster resizing for NTFS... seems funny that WinXP will convert FAT32 to 512byte NTFS when its default NTFS cluster size on formats is 4096bytes (faster than 512byte) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-294848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr33k Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Originally posted by brokenlavalamp hi i found this program and i used it to resize the clusters on my ntfs drive http://www.paragon-gmbh.com/f_fm.htm thats nice, but you have to buy the program to use this feature Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-294905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prasanth Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 ok a stupid question why you want to resize the cluster size? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-294911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr33k Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Originally posted by prasanth ok a stupid question why you want to resize the cluster size? I think for performance reasons a larger cluster uses more disk space but is faster I think I hope I got that right :ermm: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-294924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prasanth Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 so which cluster size is good for better perfomance Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-294933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xahid Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 a larger cluster uses more disk space but is faster Nah , smaller cluster is better for performance !!! and efficient. and I think 512byte(default) is better enough. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-294949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr33k Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 here is an article worth reading http://www.digit-life.com/articles/ntfs/index3.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-294994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C@N'T }{1T $}{1 Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 The typical cluster's size for NTFS constitutes 4 KBytes. But with the cluster of a big size, there isn't any more an opportunity of compression of separate files. So, the optimal size is 16 KBytes. The further increase is not effective. If you want to increase the performance of NTFS (though you will lose possibility of compression), make your disc formatted with the cluster's size more than 4 KBytes. seks :) I will look into that next time I format C: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-295007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nartac Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Originally posted by fr33k here is an article worth reading http://www.digit-life.com/articles/ntfs/index3.html Well said. End of argument. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-295131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C@N'T }{1T $}{1 Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/...kc_fil_lxty.asp And... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...b;EN-US;q140365 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-295228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenomorph Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Originally posted by fr33k I think for performance reasons a larger cluster uses more disk space but is faster I think I hope I got that right :ermm: its the same with FAT32 (just try changing your cluster size on FAT32 to 512bytes, and disk performance will slow to a crawl). Windows 2000 defaulted to 512 byte for both formatting and converting. this was fine since Win2k wasnt really designed for speed. Windows XP defaults to 4096 bytes for a format, but still 512bytes for a conversion. it goes for the larger cluster size on formats for speed. unfortunalty, MS seemed to forget to update their conversion program. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-296372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howe Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Actually plain FAT rules......period. RAM size and err -- cache is the chief factor influencing ANY file system performance. IEx; in case of 64-96 MBytes both NTFS and FAT are equal. If you are using only simple applications, FAT32 is better on the PCs with lot's of memory. Take a typical game system on NTFS is total crap and won't show speed. The main advantage is directory structure, disc size, fragmentation do not have an influence on the system performance. FAT 32 with ton's of memory is the better choice for simple users' systems. Use NTFS for graphics workstations, office computers with thousands of documents and moreover file-servers, NTFS shows higher performance level's.... Bottom line, HD's are the bottle-neck, buy the fastest HD with the largest cache buffer and as much RAM as possible......Done!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-296736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C@N'T }{1T $}{1 Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Originally posted by Xenomorph Windows XP defaults to 4096 bytes for a format, but still 512bytes for a conversion. it goes for the larger cluster size on formats for speed. unfortunalty, MS seemed to forget to update their conversion program. The conversion process will ONLY allow 512 due to FAT's 512 trend. It says something similar on the M$ website. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/30683-resize-ntfs-clusters-without-reformating/#findComment-297735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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