My new Tiburon.

[Thingfish]

plenty of plastic

http://www.tamiya.com/

[morficus]

^ LOL, yes - saturn also has bad chasis :yes:

I must admit that I haven't done any reserch on the '05 Tiburon. but I do know that the '03 had a bad body.

[acoustikrage]

^oh yea, those were terrible...and ugly, ugh.

[Thingfish]

03 and 05 are the same car. Bodies from japan / korea have been VERY good since they inacted galvanized steel laws. Much before 03.

I almost bought a loaded 03 tib in early 03 , full of goodies for 20k out the door. Just felt cramped to my big azz.

[tajddin]

Nice car, Cake. We'll have to race some time. JK :p

[jwoair23]

yeah, all good on the outside. hat about under the hood?

what about the body it self? what if another car hits me? Total lost or what?

and I said, it looks REALLYSWEEET - but the body is all plastic

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You are incredibly ignorant. My dad was t-boned by a lady into his 2000 Elantra, right in the driver side door, the outside was crushed but the inside didnt move AN INCH. He was perfectly fine, the door didnt give at all.

Please be informed before posting nonsense.

[Thingfish]

Glad all are OK from that accident. Not everybody is fortunate enough to have safe cars.

Wanted to put this up from earlier.

Under 50K original miles, she sits in the garage, and has been promised to my daughter. Not a bad looking car, eh ?

Edited April 29, 2005 by Thingfish

[randy_tho]

Glad all are OK from that accident. Not everybody is fortunate enough to have safe cars.

  Wanted to put this up from earlier.

  Under 50K original miles, she sits in the garage, and has been promised to my daughter. Not a  bad looking car, eh ?

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How old is you daughter? I'm hoping your not giving that to a teenager.

[Cero]

I love the new tibbys.

drools

How much did you pay?? :rolleyes:

[Thingfish]

That has been promised to an 8yo little girl.

She can have it , when she can show me she can drive it.

She will be tought control and chassis dynamics right, and hopefully will have skills.

Its only about 400 hp.( Very mild VT cams, head work , bolt ons , 4.10 rear end, and a 6 speed ) But its close to a .95g car.

And before its asked, it has never and will never be down a dragstrip.

[Darkluminaz34]

You are incredibly ignorant. My dad was t-boned by a lady into his 2000 Elantra, right in the driver side door, the outside was crushed but the inside didnt move AN INCH. He was perfectly fine, the door didnt give at all.

Please be informed before posting nonsense.

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I hit a guy in a 2004 Elantra in the side because he ran the light.. I was going about 30 mph and demolished his car. It crumbled like a paper cup.. The door was pushed in to the point the passenger was injured badly. The police officer said the car did VERY poor in the crash. Not only that the airbags didn't even go off gotta love all those safety features! My car was still running and driveable after the wreck.. they were rushed to the hospital...

[Thingfish]

Airbag deployment has many factors. They will not always go off, nor should they.

That car has government standard side impact beams. However it is still a tiny car. Crumpled ? Yes, thats EXACTLY what it was supposed to do. Thats what absorbs energy, so it wont be transmitted into the occupants. They are called crumple zones for a reason.....

A 30 mph t bone is very nasty, even with the best saftey equipment, its a violent crash. Police are not trained to tell how cars do in an accident, as they assume crushed = bad.

And yes, they went to the hospital , because of the nature of a t-bone. And the way it makes the brain behave inside the skull.

Look at Dale Ernhardt's crash. Watching it , it looked like a very mild crash. Yet it killed him. And look,. no crush.

http://www.internetautoguide.com/crash-tes...ntra/index.html

Its crash test numbers are very good. Vastly better then the MAJORITY of cars 10-15 years or older.

[randy_tho]

That has been promised to an 8yo little girl.

  She can have it , when she can show me she can drive it.

  She will be tought control and chassis dynamics right, and hopefully will have skills.

  Its only about 400 hp.( Very mild VT cams, head work , bolt ons , 4.10  rear end, and a  6 speed )  But its close to a .95g car.

  And before its asked, it has never and will never be down a dragstrip.

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Thats better. Also it sounds like your not going to make it her first car so that is good to. Make her drive a big car with a small engine and if she doesn't ever have a small accident or speed, and after a few trips to the parking lot with cones, she should be in pretty good shape. :)

[Thingfish]

She is already learning in go-karts. Learning proper line, braking and throttle points.

She will probably never race a car, but it will be nice knowing she knows whats shes doing on the street.

I wish these parents that want to buy there kids a Evo or Sti would pull there heads outta there asses , and send them to a driving school first.

[kombolcha]

Hyundai used to have a bad rep but they've really fixed things in the last few years. Only ignorant people still think Hyundais are crap, bad-quality cars.

Congrats on the purchase, great car for the price. Checkout Newtiburon.com to learn more info about it. They've been around for a while.

I know Hyundai got one of the best places in Consumer Reports. 1st place initial quality by J.D. Powers

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not all their models are great.. their Elantra = crap.. the noise level above 65MPH is incrediably loud and the car vibrates a lot.. things easily fall off, very cheap car.

And none of the top 3 are jap , SO WHAT ? Does that mean they suck ? Hardly.

Just because we get spammed by hundreds of thousands of japanese cars off the boats that needs to be sold no matter what.....

  I will BET that the japanese also MAKE many times the cars americans do....

The ratio puts it into perspective.  Cars are no longer supply demand. They sit by the thousands on lots everywhere.

  Obviously you can sell mmore, if you make more.

Morf,  go for a ride in a  top of the line Sonata or XG350.

You get ALOT of car , for the money. We are on our 2nd Sonata, a 02 and the 05, and have had NO issues what so ever with either. I mean nothing at all. ( Other then the factory Michelins seen to like nails ).

  I am not a cheap guy , have a good job and family. I just see no reason to spend so much more, and gain nothing gut a name.

  10year 100K mile bumper to bumper. 6 airbags. Best in class saftey ratings.  Decent specs, V6 , 4 speed autostick , leather everything, 4w disks, Abs, projectors,

so on.

  I will buy another sonata. the 06 will be 230+ hp.

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the 100,000 mile warrenty is not bumper to bumper, thats the power train warrenty (engine, transmission, axel) the bumper to bumper is 60,000 miles.

She is already learning in go-karts. Learning proper line, braking and throttle points.

  She will probably never race a car, but it will be nice knowing she knows whats shes doing on the street.

I wish  these parents that want to buy there kids a Evo or Sti would pull there heads outta there asses , and send them to a  driving school first.

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my dad did the same for me, taught me how to drive stick when i was 9 and drove by myself for the first time when i was 11 in the neighborhood, and drove 100 miles nonstop when i was 13 in a manual Fiat Turbo Diesel car... we also went to speed zone a lot.

[Thingfish]

Go drive an elantra. There is no vibration and they are not loud. Test drive one.

You are correct about the warranty, kind of. Thats the base warranty, myself and most otehr Hyundai owners are automatically upgraded at the dealer to a bumper to bumper. It was thrown in with the negotiations for the car. ( we have an 05 Sonata LX and had an 02 before it) Both got the Full bumper-Bumper.

Cheers to your dad, it was done right.

[xxkrnxstylezxx]

My dad got a '04 Sonata, loaded except sunroof. I think it's a great car, comfortable, smooth, and we haven't had any problems with it. I think he got it for around $16k, not sure, but it was a good price.

[linsook]

Go drive an elantra. There is no vibration and they are not loud. Test drive one.

? You are correct about the warranty, kind of. Thats the base warranty, myself and most otehr Hyundai owners are automatically upgraded at the dealer to a bumper to bumper. It was thrown in with the negotiations for the car. ( we have an 05 Sonata LX? and had an 02 before it) Both got the Full bumper-Bumper.

? Cheers to your dad, it was done right.

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elantra is garbage had an 05 for 2 weeks... haaaaaaated it. vibration? yo, forget about that... theres enough rubbing of parts inside t odrive you nuts.

edit: errrr i guess vibration has a part in the ugly noises.

Edited April 30, 2005 by linsook

[kombolcha]

Go drive an elantra. There is no vibration and they are not loud. Test drive one.

  You are correct about the warranty, kind of. Thats the base warranty, myself and most otehr Hyundai owners are automatically upgraded at the dealer to a bumper to bumper. It was thrown in with the negotiations for the car. ( we have an 05 Sonata LX  and had an 02 before it) Both got the Full bumper-Bumper.

  Cheers to your dad, it was done right.

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i was riding in an 04 Elantra, i never ever ever want to be seen riding on that piece of crap.

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

nice car :)

except i dont like the air conditioning.. those are so ugly.. :(

but sweet car :D

[xmr]

How much is the insurance on that? At current rates $21k ~= ?11k so insurance for a teenager on that (V6, sports coupe) over here would be like ?4k - ?5k ($9k-$10k) per year. I can't believe HS kids get cars like this! Pfft.

[jwoair23]

lol I don't know what kind of cars you guy are used to if you think the Elantra is garbage, I absolutely love my car, there is no loud noises or vibrations as you say, to each his own but I think your comments are unique and not the overall experience of people who have Elantras.

[Joel]

Agreed. Read some reviews on the Elantra, then test drive it. The money you pay for that car gets you everything you shell out thousands for from Honda (for example).

[Smitjel]

I am not talking about race cars either. My car is 100% street, passes smog every year. It has some money in the suspension , but so what. No, Toyota has nothing in the mustangs class, they DID, it was called the Supra. ( At least HP wise ) However, a 320 HP car that is  50K dollars  it hard to justify. In the midst of 335 HP Camaros and 315hp pre 03 cobras. ( Yes the supras been gone a long time ) I weep.  I wish I could have any 94+ TT Supra. Not an easy find.

  Im not by any means, bashing japanese cars, I love my wankles, I just feel there will always be a place for the American auto. No matter how good ( Saleen S7 ) or how bad ( Edsel ).

  It's hard to build a quality car, cheaply , and pay the Union auto workers , 60+ dollars an hr to take coffee breaks.  ( Prepares to get bashed by UAW )

  This is the top 10 most sold vehicles in the US. for 03

1. Ford F-Series (includes F-150, F-150 Heritage, F-150 SVT Lightning, F-250 and F-350) ? 845,586

2. Chevrolet Silverado (includes 1500, 1500 SS, 2500, 2500HD and 3500) ? 684,302

3. Dodge Ram (includes 1500, 1500 SRT-10, 2500 and 3500) ? 449,371

4. Toyota Camry and Camry Solara ? 413,296

5. Honda Accord ? 397,750

6. Ford Explorer and Explorer Sport Trac ? 373,118

7. Ford Taurus ? 300,496

8. Honda Civic ? 299,672

9. Chevrolet Impala ? 267,882

10. Chevrolet TrailBlazer and TrailBlazer EXT ? 261,334

  And this is 04, sorry, different sources.

  ? Ford F-Series 432,969 $19,920

? Chevrolet Silverado 322,907 $19,485

? Dodge Ram pickup 223,609 $20,365

? Toyota Camry 213,625 $19,560

? Honda Accord 192,106 $16,390

? Ford Explorer 168,059 $23,690

? Honda Civic 162,483 $13,500

? Ford Taurus 144,035 $20,320

? Chevrolet Impala 139,460 $22,395

? Dodge Caravan 131,367 $18,995

  No sales numbers dont lie.

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Asian Automakers Gain Further Ground

Hmm...sounds kinda familiar. :p

[cscheatsforyou]

how the performance of the tibby is it the same as 350z ?