rustyPixel Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 I've done a bunch of searching but have not found a definitive answer...I was wondering if the new Mail (found in Tiger) can import my mail from Thunderbird. I'm getting my Mac on Tuesday so I haven't been able to play with it myself to find out...but I'm hoping someone can give me some insight. :) Thanks! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted May 6, 2005 Author Share Posted May 6, 2005 Okay, one website says that the Mozilla/Netscape eMail import wizard will work...another says that extra steps are required. Just wondering if anyone has done this before with success. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585879644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureEdit Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Last I checked thunderbird used the mbox format, which Mail will import fine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585879874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 I did it recently and it was successful. I followed these directions: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Export_to_Mail.app Tip: Before importing each mbox, Mail may display a dialog box of which messages/folders you wanted imported. If you get that dialog box, deselect everything except the first main mbox entry. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585879882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 I followed those directions, but it seems as though Mail only imports about 90% of the messages in any given folder. Interestingly, the Inbox folder which I imported had 0 eMails, but Mail found about 500 of 'em (eMails from years and years ago! *gasp*). Any ideas/thoughts? I really can't lose any of these old eMails. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585906449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Maybe try not deselecting anything if you did, I didn't have that problem so I can't help you there. As for the old messages appearing, it's because with the mbox system, when you delete an email, it's only marked as deleted. From my understanding it remains in the mbox until you compact/rebuild folders. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585909408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted May 12, 2005 Author Share Posted May 12, 2005 Maybe try not deselecting anything if you did, I didn't have that problem so I can't help you there.As for the old messages appearing, it's because with the mbox system, when you delete an email, it's only marked as deleted. From my understanding it remains in the mbox until you compact/rebuild folders. 585909408[/snapback] Oh wow...I didn't know that it worked like that. I rarely if ever delete eMails. I didn't think this would happen. The whole thing is very strange. I'm not sure how I'm going to proceed from here, unfortunately. :( btw, I didn't deselect anything; only the "original" mailboxes that I was trying to import showed up in the import selection dialogue box. Any other thoughts/ideas/success stories? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585909620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 perhaps try creating a new folder (aka mbox) in thunderbird and move all your important mail there. then close thunderbird and import that mbox. that way its a fresh mbox with no deleted messages or other problems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585909973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 perhaps try creating a new folder (aka mbox) in thunderbird and move all your important mail there. then close thunderbird and import that mbox. that way its a fresh mbox with no deleted messages or other problems. 585909973[/snapback] Nope. :( Believe it or not I'm still having the same problem. I actually found someone on the Mac discussion board that is having the same exact issue; no one has responded with a suggestion though on how to fix the problem. I'm not sure what to do at this point. The number of eMails is still off. I've tried rebuilding eMails, etc. No go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585925285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Last Hope: Are you sure you're selecting the proper mbox to import? In my last recommendation, if you created a folder called Test, you need to rename the "Test" file (no extension) in your profile folder to "Test.mbox" and import that into Mail. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585925513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Last Hope: Are you sure you're selecting the proper mbox to import? In my last recommendation, if you created a folder called Test, you need to rename the "Test" file (no extension) in your profile folder to "Test.mbox" and import that into Mail. 585925513[/snapback] I'm pretty sure I am selecting the right mbox; however for most of the process I've been selecting all of the mboxes at once in order to import *all* of my Thunderbird eMail. Do you remember if you selected "Other" or "Mozilla/Netscape" as the type of eMail store to import? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585927333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I imported one mbox at a time and used the "Other" type. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585927811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Do you remember having to compact your folders in Thunderbird before you imported them? And what platform were you running Thunderbird on before the import to mail? OS X, or were you running Thunderbird in Windows? Thanks for your patience and help thus far, tariq...I really appreciate it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585929313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I didn't have to compact the folders because when I created new folders in Thunderbird, and put my messages into them before exporting, those mboxes were in perfect condition having never been modified. I went from Mail (10.3) > Thunderbird (on 10.4) > Mail (10.4) because Mail 2.0 wouldn't import my mail after clean-installing Tiger. I just used Thunderbird as a intermediary since it could read my mail and export a mbox that was compatible with Mail 2.0 By any chance, do you have nested folders in Thunderbird? ie: Mailing Lists -- Straight Dope -- Loop -- TheList Each nested folder has its own mbox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585933825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 I didn't have to compact the folders because when I created new folders in Thunderbird, and put my messages into them before exporting, those mboxes were in perfect condition having never been modified.I went from Mail (10.3) > Thunderbird (on 10.4) > Mail (10.4) because Mail 2.0 wouldn't import my mail after clean-installing Tiger. I just used Thunderbird as a intermediary since it could read my mail and export a mbox that was compatible with Mail 2.0 By any chance, do you have nested folders in Thunderbird? ie: Mailing Lists -- Straight Dope -- Loop -- TheList Each nested folder has its own mbox. 585933825[/snapback] Okay...yes, I actually do have nested folders. Let me try one more time creating brand new mboxes by copying eMails over from my old folders. Maybe I did something wrong last time and the brand new mbox files will work better. I'll give these ideas a whirl and let you know what happens. :) Thanks again, tariq. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585934373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdafuture Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Does thunderbird let you view HOTMAIL MAIL? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585934457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted May 18, 2005 Author Share Posted May 18, 2005 Does thunderbird let you view HOTMAIL MAIL? 585934457[/snapback] No. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585935913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdafuture Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Which mail app does? besides Entourage Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585937210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 All do, just not out of the box like Entourage. You just need to use a third party program like HTTPMail (http://httpmail.sourceforge.net/). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-585938921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
petterpp Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I've done a bunch of searching but have not found a definitive answer...I was wondering if the new Mail (found in Tiger) can import my mail from Thunderbird.I'm getting my Mac on Tuesday so I haven't been able to play with it myself to find out...but I'm hoping someone can give me some insight. :) Thanks! 585879616[/snapback] I have had the same problem as you until today! I found a way that works good. 1. Install Entourage 2. Find your mailfolders (found in Library/thunderbird/profiles/your account/mail/local folders) 3. There are three versions of your folders (Inbox.msf, Inbox.sbd, inbox) 4. Copy the one without extention to the desktop (or wherever you want) 5. Add the extention .mbox to your folders 6. Open Entourage and drag the folders to the main folder (Folders on my computer) 7. Open Mail and go: File/Import and select Entourage. 8. Done! Hope this will help all frustrated minds out there. /Petter Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-586109426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothTeddy Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 I did this last week and was quite shocked to see Mail importing thousands of emails :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/317094-thunderbird-mail/#findComment-586111524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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