Im in love!

[Daffy_Duck]

If your car is drifting it's time for an alignment.

umm...the reason we like the car's not really about the looks. try driving one HARD, it can handle a lot better than most other vehicles. It's recognised as being one of the best if not the best car for drifting

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[BLEHINATOR!]

If your car is drifting it's time for an alignment.

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LOL :laugh:

[yanman]

There are heaps of them around here. I'm not sure what engine comes stock in it, but almost every one I have seen has a 4AGZE (supercharged MR2 engine), with the supercharger taken out and a turbo bolted straight in. They are not considered fast, although they are very light. A guy around here put a moderatly modified RB25 into his Sprinter, it ran a 10.02 on street tyres.

The stock engine is a 4AGE, I think. A RB25 in a AE86? Does that fit? They must've modified the firewall or something. The craziest I've seen is a clip of an AE86 with a 20B triple rotor with some sort of turbo, video didn't show what it was, but damn was that quick. It was driving in front of another AE86 where the camera crew was, then all of a sudden you hear the AE86 gearing down then stepping on the gas, with a blink of an eye, it's gone.

Doh...Even worse, then. :laugh:

I knew you were gonna say that LOL

[.calibre]

Nice :yes:

Though, it makes me sad to see people judging cars on looks :no:

[Iamit2900]

I'm sorry man, I'm not impressed. Still I do like Toyota's... especially Lexus's :) .

I would say that. I'm very interested in virtually anything Japanese.

[shockz]

Though, it makes me sad to see people judging cars on looks?:no::

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Thats a bad thing???

When I drive something... I prefer not to have rust holes, faded paint, etc...

Looks are a lot of when it comes to cars.

If you had to pick the wonderful handling of this AE86 or the nicest looking car, which would you pick?

[emo]

nice classic.

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If you had to pick the wonderful handling of this AE86 or the nicest looking car, which would you pick?

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One where I won't have to say "Yeah but, it drifts really well......." :laugh:!!!!

[.calibre]

If you had to pick the wonderful handling of this AE86 or the nicest looking car, which would you pick?

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Yes, it's a bad thing. If the 'nicest looking car' was only that, good looking, I'd go with the AE86. Why? Car's are for DRIVING.

[VGVL]

That car is hideous. :x

Maybe it had good handling for its time, but I highly doubt it handles better than a current BMW M3.

[Koolslacker]

Whatever makes you happy!

[Got3n]

That car is hideous. :x

Maybe it had good handling for its time, but I highly doubt it handles better than a current BMW M3.

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hmm you would be surprised, for the price of an M3 you can easily fix the 86 up and it would pwn the M3

[....]

Yes, it's a bad thing. If the 'nicest looking car' was only that, good looking, I'd go with the AE86. Why? Car's are for DRIVING.

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But for what? To take residential turns at 45 mph? The things that make that car so 'superior' to others is worthless if you obey the law. :laugh:

[fcdrifter13]

Ok I ran across this while searching for some cursors so how nad I own to 1985 AE86. And I would like to set the records strait. First the reason the car is so desirable right now is because of this whole American Drifting thing. Americans cannot drift although this has brought back interest in the AE86 and its counterparts because everyone wants to get on the band wagon.

Now for performance specs the car in the top of the line model only has around 150 horse power nad the SR-5 Model only has like 90hp. But power is not the appeal of the car it is its front engine rear drive layout, and the light wieght of the car. Another thing that makes the car so fun to drive is that it has a solid rear axle. Unlike independent rear suspension the soild rear axle lets the car slide more easily because it cannot maintain grip at high speed conering. And thus the art of drifting was born.

OK lets take that M3 for example yes it can hold the road better and has more power but with that road grip comes loss of speed entering a corner. This is where an AE86 shines. A car that drifts from the beginning of o coner threw the exit can accelerate thought the whole coner whereas the M3 must brake at the entrance and then finally start to accelerate towards the end of a coner. Thus the AE86 in stock form can keep its momentun throughout the entire coner. Thus letting it keep its spped at the exit and already have more spped on he strait streches than the M3. I ma not saying that if the M3 were to drift it would not wup the 86 but the M3 is not made for that type of racing. Theres grip racing and then theres drift racing. Each has its advantages and disadvantages.

This is why the Corolla GT-S (american spec trueno or AE86) HGas sold so well. Because of its fun to drive factor not its looks that is why people wanted them so bad and then the American drifting thing started and increased its popularity 10fold. In other words LOOKS LIKE **** GOES LIKE STINK.

[protomor]

Ive been drifting (legally) for about a year now and I have to admit that its an amazing drift machine compared to my E30 (1989 bmw 325i). The solid rear axle is one of the huge things that makes it slide easier. Alot of the guys that I know that have them love the old fashioned look, I dont like it much but they seem to. Ive driven one and it does perform very well. Much better than most cars now a days. A new age 240sx can do better but not by a huge amount. Drive one sometime, youll see why its getting popular.

[....]

Like I said....you may think you have a cool car, but everyone laughs at you from the sidewalk. :p

[protomor]

I like it, my car looks like an old man should be driving it. no one suspects you and even chuckles at how crappy your car looks ( I have a HUGE white flame on the side of my car on the redish panels i replaced). but when it comes down to it, my car rapes most guys that ever try to race me.

your civic may be pretty with all those body kits and it may have a rediculously big exhaust but ill bend you over and make you my bitch when that light turns green.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I've crapped better turds.....yawn...... :no:

[....]

I like it, my car looks like an old man should be driving it. no one suspects you and even chuckles at how crappy your car looks ( I have a HUGE white flame on the side of my car on the redish panels i replaced). but when it comes down to it, my car rapes most guys that ever try to race me.

your civic may be pretty with all those body kits and it may have a rediculously big exhaust but ill bend you over and make you my bitch when that light turns green.

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Oh noes. You can waste more gas than I can. :laugh:

[Nose Nuggets]

i lost all respect for initial d after watching about 4 or 5 episodes. the last one i watched, one of the guys used the acurate racing line, and did'nt drift. about half way through there stage he starts going off about how wrong he has been, and how drifting really is the fastest way around the track

it was about this time i choked on my cherry pepsi and proceded to urinate on my budd's VCR. the money i spent buying him a new initial d tape and vcr was plenty worth the satisfaction i gaind by doing my best to obliterate above remarks

Ok I ran across this while searching for some cursors so how nad I own to 1985 AE86. And I would like to set the records strait. First the reason the car is so desirable right now is because of this whole American Drifting thing. Americans cannot drift although this has brought back interest in the AE86 and its counterparts because everyone wants to get on the band wagon.

conrad grunewald is all im gana say. if you watch any d1 events in recent history you will notice this AMERICAN up an comming drifter. used to race with J-Spec, one of the only other teams with americans that can hold there own. conrad is driving a falcon 240sx right now, he placed 2nd in last weekends event. he should have won, but the crowed wanted one more.

OK lets take that M3 for example yes it can hold the road better and has more power but with that road grip comes loss of speed entering a corner. This is where an AE86 shines. A car that drifts from the beginning of o coner threw the exit can accelerate thought the whole coner whereas the M3 must brake at the entrance and then finally start to accelerate towards the end of a coner. Thus the AE86 in stock form can keep its momentun throughout the entire coner. Thus letting it keep its spped at the exit and already have more spped on he strait streches than the M3. I ma not saying that if the M3 were to drift it would not wup the 86 but the M3 is not made for that type of racing. Theres grip racing and then theres drift racing. Each has its advantages and disadvantages.

im sorry but this is largly incorect. contrary to popular belief, there are only 2 things a drifting car needs; steering angle and horse power. thats why samuel hubinet owned the drifting world in his competition viper.

a stock ae86 is imposible to drift soley on power. the only ways to get the back end out is to pump the clutch (lame) use the hand brake (just as lame) use spring energy, most drifters call it "feinting" to a race car driver the term scandi flick might ring a bell, its the process of sharply steering away from the aproching turn before turn back into the turn even sharper. this moves all the weight of the car to one side, then flings it back to the other. all three of these things acomplish the same efect, they disturb the weight ratio of the car (how much weight on the front wheels as aposed to the rears).

the reason your M3 will need to brake before it initiats its drift is because its going to be entering the turn at no less then 30mph faster then your **** box toyota. a good drifter in the m3 would "pop" the brake peddle to start his drift (sends loads of weight to the front tires and consiquently loos a crap load of traction in the rear, the other posative action this insitgates is a lot more steering responce due to the added weight on the front tires), then proceed to steer and feather the throttle through the turn and, depending on the configuration of the track, most likly be full thrttole by 3/4 the way through the turn as he tracks out to the exit.

you cant get tire smoke if your not on the gas. and smoke coming off the front tiers is not good, that you can do plenty of off the throttle.

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[Norante]

Check this out, saw it at my loval Best buy. To bad it wasnt panda white...

AE86 gallery

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:rofl:l:

How funny. I seen the same car parked at Target today (at Military Dr). I also thought it was a pity that it was not the panda white version.

[protomor]

nose youre partly right on some of the things you mentioned. The reason the guy on the episodes of initial d was doing badly even though he was doing a proper racing line was because the turns are so sharp that the car had to slow down much more than the 86. It basically can keep up his speed while the other car had to slow down. Its hard to explain. look up gymkhana videos and watch the difference between the times of the drifting cars and the non drifting. its one of the few times when drifting IS faster than gripping.

The 86 ISNT powerful at all, but that isnt what drifting is about. It isnt about speed or times but about looks. Since the 86 cant enter a drift as fast, the judges give a little handicap in comparison to saaaay an SR20DET 240sx with 200 or more hp. For what it is, the 86 tends to get more angle and can initiate sooner than most cars.

Im sorry but you are largely incorrect about what you think a drift car needs. In the japanese D1, the best two cars are 240sxs and AE86s. I agree angle is very necessary, but a 100hp AE86 can still drift very well.

There are plenty of ways to keep a drift going other than clutch kicking (aka "pumping the clutch") and E-braking. Both of these which if you think about it, DONT use weight redistribution. If youre turning, your weight is already distributed, clutch kicking/e-braking just break the rear wheels loose to slide. Feinting (scandinavian flick) is the only way you mentioned that really is weight transfer.

The M3 doesnt NEED to brake, its just another way in the hand bag of tricks to drift, the 86 can use that also if it was going fast enough. its another way of weight transfer. Each car has a different setup and a different way each drift initiation works, so you cant say what will and wont work for certain things such as an M3.

have you ever drifted before? Drifting is my chosen auto sport and ive seen/drifted a few cars in my time. Initial D isnt the drift bible and you cant take everything on it for truth but then again, its a CARTOON.

PS its spelled "positive"

[VGVL]

The 86 ISNT powerful at all, but that isnt what drifting is about. It isnt about speed or times but about looks.

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The 86 is ugly as hell, so it shouldn't be drifting.

A BMW M3 would look so much better drifting than an 86, if looks are what you're after. If I saw an 86 drifting I'd think "what a **** box, he's trying to be cool", but if I saw an M3 drifting I'd definitely be impressed.

[Darkluminaz34]

What's the deal with this car? It?s another soulless Japanese econobox from the 80's... Now if it was a torch red Camaro Iroc-Z that is actually something to gawk at. The amount of money you spent trying to fix up that dog you could have put into the Camaro and it would tear the pants off that generic car and please don't compare that thing to a BMW.

[Nose Nuggets]

nose youre partly right on some of the things you mentioned. The reason the guy on the episodes of initial d was doing badly even though he was doing a proper racing line was because the turns are so sharp that the car had to slow down much more than the 86. It basically can keep up his speed while the other car had to slow down. Its hard to explain. look up gymkhana videos and watch the difference between the times of the drifting cars and the non drifting. its one of the few times when drifting IS faster than gripping.

it was a whily ago. so your prolly right. all i remember is he said drifting was faster, and that sent up a red flag :)

The 86 ISNT powerful at all, but that isnt what drifting is about. It isnt about speed or times but about looks. Since the 86 cant enter a drift as fast, the judges give a little handicap in comparison to saaaay an SR20DET 240sx with 200 or more hp. For what it is, the 86 tends to get more angle and can initiate sooner than most cars.

im well aware of what drifting is about, i have family in the field so to speak hehe. ill have to take your word on the 86 man, i havent driven one. but like the guy above me said, if its about looks these things shouldent be allowed inthe parking lot.

Im sorry but you are largely incorrect about what you think a drift car needs. In the japanese D1, the best two cars are 240sxs and AE86s. I agree angle is very necessary, but a 100hp AE86 can still drift very well.

i have yet to see an 86 lay smoke like a 240 or Samuel's competition coupe. from what i gather, being able to connect black marks, and be laying smoke is one of the biggest point gainers in any drifting competition. i dont care what cars are popular, 86's are popular because there cheep. and just because a 100hp 86 can drift well, a 86 with a 120hp will drift better. a 500hp 86 will be a better car then a 300hp 240 and vise versa. i dont see how you can make the argument that hp isent a big factor in a drift car. what about an 86 or a 240 make it a better drift car then a rx7 or a viper.

There are plenty of ways to keep a drift going other than clutch kicking (aka "pumping the clutch") and E-braking. Both of these which if you think about it, DONT use weight redistribution. If youre turning, your weight is already distributed, clutch kicking/e-braking just break the rear wheels loose to slide. Feinting (scandinavian flick) is the only way you mentioned that really is weight transfer.

your right. i did not mean to, but i did state using the hand brake or clutch kicking did use wight transfer, which it does not. please list some of the other ways to initiate a drift, other then the ones i listed. i was unaware of more options.

The M3 doesnt NEED to brake, its just another way in the hand bag of tricks to drift, the 86 can use that also if it was going fast enough. its another way of weight transfer.  Each car has a different setup and a different way each drift initiation works, so you cant say what will and wont work for certain things such as an M3.

he might need too, depends on the turn.

have you ever drifted before? Drifting is my chosen auto sport and ive seen/drifted a few cars in my time. Initial D isnt the drift bible and you cant take everything on it for truth but then again, its a CARTOON.

yes, ive messed around on an open paddok a handfull of times in a few difernt cars. im not a big drift fan to be honest. i follow if because my cousin competes. im more of a raceing fan, i prefer WRC and F1 then drifting.

PS its spelled "positive"

i suck at spelling