VB On Linux

[meeseontheleese]

I know VB is a much hated language, dont get me wrong, I dislike its object-based simplicity as well. Sadly though, VB is some twisted prerequisite for my other classes (they tell me i need to learn it in order to learn a basic understanding of code, i mean come on wtf? html is more enjoyable than this) My question is, anybody know of a vb prog for linux, that way i dont have to boot into windows just work on my class? help would be greatly appreciated.

[nvme]

make a virtual machine for windows maybe? as far as i know vb is windows only or at least only supported by the windows os right now

[KayMan2K]

VB.Net (aka VB7) programs can Linux to some capacity using the Mono project's .Net Runtime for Linux.

There is no solution for running VB6 code other than already mentioned... virtual machine.

[meeseontheleese]

darn, i have a windows spec. hdd (used mostly for games), but when i try to use qemu to emu windows from that drive, it doesnt boot, any ideas? My linux hdd (40gb part on a 200gb hdd) and my windows spec. hdd (40gb hdd) are seperate drives.

[nvme]

  KayMan2K said:

VB.Net (aka VB7) programs can Linux to some capacity using the Mono project's .Net Runtime for Linux.

There is no solution for running VB6 code other than already mentioned... virtual machine.

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i was thinking the ability for .net was there.. i wasnt sure if there was an actual implementation of it though.. how well does that work.. i might look into it just to play with it..

[patch-rustem]

Try running under Wine or CrossOver Office.

See Winehq.

[KayMan2K]

  nvme said:

i was thinking the ability for .net was there.. i wasnt sure if there was an actual implementation of it though.. how well does that work.. i might look into it just to play with it..

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I have used it for experiments only. It is pretty good though, give it a try. You will need to run WINE and maybe some other tools to get WinForms working properly.

[Jayzee]

  s0n1cm0nk3y said:

darn, i have a windows spec. hdd (used mostly for games), but when i try to use qemu to emu windows from that drive, it doesnt boot, any ideas? My linux hdd (40gb part on a 200gb hdd) and my windows spec. hdd (40gb hdd) are seperate drives.

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I suppose you're not running older windows version like 98, 95 or NT which means that you probably have NTFS partition! NTFS does not work very well in Linux...

If you want to run .NET code, I suggest you to use Windows since mono project has very limited capabilities.

[Malisk]

  s0n1cm0nk3y said:

I know VB is a much hated language, dont get me wrong, I dislike its object-based simplicity as well.

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VB .NET isn't a much "simpler" OOP language than C# or Java. It has full fledged support for object oriented development and is completely different in that sense than VB 6. However, yeah, VB 6 is a horrible mix of functional and object oriented development. What class do the Len() belong to, for example? *sigh*

Anyway, Mono is a very interesting open source project to implement the .NET Framework natively in Linux, and they've got a long way already. Unfortunately, it seems they're mainly focusing on the .NET framework on C# so far, so the VB .NET compiler is still a bit undeveloped while the C# one is already C# 1.0 feature complete (C# 2.0 is the version to come in Visual Studio 2005) and can compile their .NET framework source code itself. The C# compiler was also written in "Mono" C#. :) So it's self-sustaining which is a sign of maturity. You can find the status of the VB compiler here. You'll probably be able to make some basic stuff with it, but not everything is supported and you should really double check the work you do in it with a VB .NET compiler in Windows.

If you're aiming for VB 6 I guess you're out of luck for native app development. Also keep in mind that there are several differences between VB 6 and VB .NET. Basically most of it besides the syntax.

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I suppose you're not running older windows version like 98, 95 or NT which means that you probably have NTFS partition! NTFS does not work very well in Linux...

NTFS often work just fine in Linux, as long as you aren't looking for write support.

Edited May 12, 2005 by Jugalator

[meeseontheleese]

  Jayzee said:

I suppose you're not running older windows version like 98, 95 or NT which means that you probably have NTFS partition! NTFS does not work very well in Linux...

If you want to run .NET code, I suggest you to use Windows since mono project has very limited capabilities.

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like jugalator said, ntfs (and im not really a fan of fat32) isnt much of a problem as long as you dont look for write capability. I have my ntfs part mounted in linux with no problem (used mostly for lmusic, videos, torrents, and some of my wallpapers that i modify left over from windows), and i havent tried to write on it. as for my vb work, i ftp or ssh it up to my debian based shell account on nic-nac-project.de, that way i can work on it here, and at school. I work on it at home, because i get tired of having to deal with the lag and such that these ibms seem to have (they dont allow us to use spysweeper, crap cleaner, or av, they say we could mess something up, which in all honestly, considering the current situation, i dont think theres much i could to mess it up) Also my question is, will wine support the vb prog im using. im using vb 5.0 cce (control creation edition). Its the free one that our teacher believes is the simplist and best to use (it crashes alot too). post if it will or will not work.

UPDATE: nvm i checked out the wine hq and read this:

Microsoft Visual Basic 5 Control Creation Edition runs nearly perfectly using Wine 20030508 with native oleaut32 and native comcat

where are these native files that i need? forgive me im a wine virgin.

also do i have to install wine or does it come with most distros (using ubuntu 5.04), and will i beable to launch programs on my windows hdd.

Edited May 12, 2005 by s0n1cm0nk3y

[kyro]

humm ... i will suggest you to try your hand on

http://gambas.sourceforge.net/ .

http://gambas.sourceforge.net/2004-09-06.png

http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/screenshots/ .