Octavarium

[Xtreme $niper]

So, who's going to be buying Dream Theater's new album: Octavarium? I've heard a few songs off of it and I am telling you now, I am buying it the day of release. If you like Dream Theater, get it for sure. If you have no idea who Dream Theater is, try here. The new album comes out in a matter of days. If you like anything from metal to classical music, you have to give this band a listen.

So back to my original question (and im pretty surprised a topic like this hasnt already been made for Dream Theater), who will be buying their new album?

[sanctified Veteran]

Dream Teather lost it from since they moved from progressive to... "heavy"...

They used to be the only band capable to compare with Tool talent wise in the progressive scene.

[azcodemonkey]

I think DT has been kowtowing to what's popular to get more fans.

Octavarium is a bit more intriguing than Train of Thought. It's definitely more artsy. It certainly isn't a return to form for them(yes, I've heard the entire album).

They used to be the only band capable to compare with Tool talent wise in the progressive scene.

:blink:

You're a rabidly fanatical Tool fan, aren't you? There are a great many talents in prog that more than compare with Tool. And yes, I happen to like Tool quite a bit.

[msntrev]

i've had this album a couple weeks now and i really like it.

Its different from there other albums as its a lot heavier but it hasnt put me off DT.

There are some very good solo's in there both from portnoy and petrucci.

It is a very good album in my opinion

[Wolvereen]

I've been listening to the album a LOT recently. I really enjoy it, can't wait to pick it up in a couple weeks. One of their better recently I feel. "These Walls", "Never Enough" and "Octavarium" are all great tracks!

On a side note, it cracks me up how in ANY music thread, there is always at least one person that plays the "they were so much better before they sold out" card. Get over it, bands change, times change. Hopefully bands grow and evolve, thats part of being an artist.

[sanctified Veteran]

I've been listening to the album a LOT recently.  I really enjoy it, can't wait to pick it up in a couple weeks.  One of their better recently I feel.  "These Walls", "Never Enough" and "Octavarium" are all great tracks!

On a side note, it cracks me up how in ANY music thread, there is always at least one person that plays the "they were so much better before they sold out" card.  Get over it, bands change, times change.  Hopefully bands grow and evolve, thats part of being an artist.

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You are the first one that mentiones the "S" word.

weenur: Mention one.

[Guest]

I also have this album - I really like it! Im a Muse fan though, I love how they've made a "Musey" style change :-)

[starway]

I'm a big Dt fan and I've decided not to listen to the album until the official release. So of course, I'll be buying it the day it comes out (in 4 days now)

[Xtreme $niper]

I also have this album - I really like it! Im a Muse fan though, I love how they've made a "Musey" style change :-)

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Yeah thats so true, it does sound more like Muse at some parts.

I still love how their songs are really long. lol, I love solos.

[msntrev]

if you like solo's i think john petrucci's solo album (release date hasnt been set yet as far as i know) is a good one to listen to. Some great solo's on there!

[ten]

weenur: Mention one.

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Liquid Tension Experiment and Symphony X to name a couple.

Tool is good. But highly over-rated.

[hotdog666al]

Getting it for my birthday (13th July) Along with Avenged Sevenfold - City of Evil :D

[Shannon]

Liquid Tension Experiment and Symphony X to name a couple.

Tool is good. But highly over-rated.

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Heh. Too bad Liquid Tension Experiment is basically all Dream Theatre members anyway.

[vertigosity]

Ever since a friend of mine "exposed" me to Hooker With a Penis (Tool.), I've thought of that every time someone mentions a band "selling out." 'Cause hey, if I'm the man then you're the man and he's the man as well. You bought it!

[sanctified Veteran]

Tool is good. But highly over-rated.

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And who are you to define the parameters of "over-rated"? I'd like an explanation :rolleyes:

[ph_bradley]

Looking forward to it, as are most guys at the rockforums

[Keito]

Getting it for my birthday (13th July) Along with Avenged Sevenfold - City of Evil :D

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I'm also getting it... not really on my birthday, but it's going to be released on my birthday :D 7th of June, I'll probably have it the 11th ;)

and I agree with Weenur :D try transatlantic too if you want alternatives for prog rock :p

[Kriz]

Got it a few days ago, havnt give it a listen yet though.

[Pajter]

All I can say is, this album ROCKS! :punk: Best album I've heard in a while. A lot better than Train of Thought. :yes: But it's easy to say that Dream Theater is not what it used to be. When you make an album like Scenes from a Memory, it's almost impossible to make an album that's even better.

Ofcourse, there are lots of factors that play when making an album. For instance, the studio where they recorded. When making their two best albums (imo), Images and Words, and Scenes from a Memory, they used Bear Tracks studios. Which, in my point of view, is a LOT more inspiring than studios like the one they used for Train of Thought. It plays a great role in writing music. And it's very noticable, because everyone can hear that Train of Thought is much less inspired than SFAM.

Also, you have to keep in mind that bands have to progress and experiment. And Dream Theater is THE example for bands that do that. You can never expect to hear the same thing when they create a new album. Their genre is called PROGRESSIVE rock/metal for a reason. :)

As for Octavarium, this CD is really inspiring. The tracks are very different from each other. For example, The Answer Lies Within, is very calm, simple, but beautiful. It has more of a modern poppy feel to it. When Panic Attack, is really a hard metal kind of song, that blows you right of your chair. And imo still the best track, Octavarium, is a masterpiece. It has all the emotions that a song should have, where there's also a lot of technically challenging and hard passages that are obligatory to a DT song. Ever since I first heard this song, it automatically ranked as one of my most favorite songs ever.

And, not to go unmentioned, the playing talent of DT members, is still the best today. Not even a band like Tool can top that. I'm a musician myself, and able to play a great deal of Portnoy stuff. Portnoy outranks all modern drummers today, even Danny Carey. And the same goes for John Petrucci or Jordan Rudess... They're just musical geniouses, that can play everything from death metal to jazz.

As you can see by my signature, Mike Portnoy is my drumhero. And that's not just because he can play fast, or technical, but also because he has a great creative mind, which has a lot of different sides. Listen to Transatlantic, OSI, Dream Theater. They're all different, and even Mike Portnoy's playing is different everywhere. You can still hear his style, but it's not the same. :p

And... if you're actually still reading this, thanks :p This was probably my longest post ever, so I should quit, or else I might even get tired :p :rofl:

kthxbye~

[Keito]

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As you can see by my signature, Mike Portnoy is my drumhero. And that's not just because he can play fast, or technical, but also because he has a great creative mind, which has a lot of different sides. Listen to Transatlantic, OSI, Dream Theater. They're all different, and even Mike Portnoy's playing is different everywhere. You can still hear his style, but it's not the same. :p

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You forget One by Neal Morse, Portnoy plays there too :p

[Pajter]

You forget One by Neal Morse, Portnoy plays there too :p

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Oh yeah right... I forgot :laugh:

[ten]

,Jun 5 2005, 08:17]And who are you to define the parameters of "over-rated"? I'd like an explanation  :rolleyes:

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Its not all it's fans cook it up to be. Who am I? I'm just offering my opinion. I think that was quite obvious considering it's a message board.

And who are you to say that DT was the only prog-metal band comparable to to Tool (which isn't prog-rock in the first place in my opinion) talent wise?

Another one: Queensryche

[Toxikk Veteran]

sounds like a collection of bsides to me. the "leak" has caused quite a stirr. i would really not be surprised if they release a totally diff cd than what leaked.

i mean, the first track is like a different take on "As I Am" and where the hell is the hardness? Portnoy is a bitch!

[Keito]

sounds like a collection of bsides to me. the "leak" has caused quite a stirr. i would really not be surprised if they release a totally diff cd than what leaked.

i mean, the first track is like a different take on "As I Am" and where the hell is the hardness? Portnoy is a bitch!

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It's progressive ;) Maybe they just wanted to do a different thing... I've just heard bits of the leak and I'm satisfied with it :D but I guess we don't know for sure untill it's the 7th of June ey :p

[Toxikk Veteran]

It's progressive ;) Maybe they just wanted to do a different thing... I've just heard bits of the leak and I'm satisfied with it :D but I guess we don't know for sure untill it's the 7th of June ey :p

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i heard the audio samples that were posted and did not like what i heard. i have heard rumors it is a fake collection that portnoy put out just before he removed the forums. we shall see... but i can get 10 rolls of toilet paper for the price of this cd if it is the same as what i heard on the samples.