protoss_chaos Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 a) no one here has seen the whole trial, nor whole testimonies, so how could anyone make a decision based on anything but what the media tells you happened, after they paraphrase, and so on? b) Innocent until proven guilty c) I think if he did do it (not saying he did, but if) then he should be committed, not arrested. The guys been through a rough life, and obviously needs help. d) why is everyone so anxious to see him fall? Especially if he is innocent. I vote innocent, only because that is the american way, and i believe everyone should get a chance! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586025868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustVince Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Don't know whether he is guilty of the charges or not, but he is guilty of being a weirdo. 586020857[/snapback] Exactly! :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586025914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippery Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 He's a fag for little boys, come on people open your eyes, geez - It must say something that he has no female companion, and by that I mean adult. The only time he had one was an arrangement with the presley girl to have his child, then out the door she went. Wake up and smell the roses for cryin out loud. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586025920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplecookie Veteran Posted June 6, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 6, 2005 I don't think he's guilty of all of the charges against him, but I think he should be found guilty for some of them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586025938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean B. Veteran Posted June 6, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 6, 2005 I believe he is inocent. This is all over money. The kid has done lied under oath, he's already told someone that his mother made him say it. If he is found guilty, it's going to shock millions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586025964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enriq760 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 a) no one here has seen the whole trial, nor whole testimonies, so how could anyone make a decision based on anything but what the media tells you happened, after they paraphrase, and so on? 586025868[/snapback] Well yeah you can read the transcrips of the testimonies plus. the "key" witnesses (sp?) where showed on E! and on CNN they did a whole 2 hour show on the case plus! legal expertice I think that should be enough to have an idea weather his innocent or guilty I don't think he's guilty of all of the charges against him, but I think he should be found guilty for some of them. 586025938[/snapback] Well some of the charges are just crazy, and the alcohol one is for the purpose of molesting a child I think wich if he's not found guilty on the MAIN charge I don't think he should on that one wich is the one that every1 says he's guilty for sure... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586025992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterious_w Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Guilty as sin Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586026155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheirser Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Michael Jackson is still a child himself, so I find him to be innocent, and if he has crossed the line he does not have the mind of an adult to be charged as guilty, he could feasably get plead insanity. This is a guy who hasn't made a decision of his own - EVER. He has always had people looking after his money, his PR, his organisation, the guy hasn't lifted a finger of responsibility since he was - EVER. He has never made any real decisions in life, they have all been made for him, always. Michael Jackson seriously does not know what the real world actually is to be judged in it. He is massively still a child - and a very spoilt one. He creates his own fantasies which are all still childish, I mean NEVERLAND, for christ sakes, if he had actually mentally grown up he could have set up the gay version of the Hefer mansion if he swung that way. If he had any inkling to the outside world out of hollywoood he would go about playing with little boys in a more socially conducted manner. He's a 9 year old trapped in a (how old is he?) body. People have always leached off Michael Jackson too. Remember that everyone he has come into contact with has seen him as their own tool to make money - even when he was still a child himself, so they have mollycoddled him all his life and he never grew up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586026957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySchizo Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Not Guilty. (This time around at least) Kid's mom is simply money hungry and she should be put in jail imo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586026975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code.Red Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I'm not really sure myself, I haven't seen all the evidence, etc.. but I am leaning towards guilty, although I have this feeling that the verdict will come out innocent... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586027617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ0943 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 holy **** ! he is guilty as hell! ****n sick ****** Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586027632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Arcanine Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Umm, I'll plead ignorance here...what do you mean by that? 586022334[/snapback] Simple, society perverts (to pervert means to corrupt) beautiful things and we do nothing and now when one of those beautiful things happens to be children we suddenly care? Technically we can't do something about this unless we do something about all of the other evils society creates through pervertion (e.g. "I will love you if..." or "all good teenage girls should have sex"). I could present a ton of examples but the fact of the matter is that by allowing society to pervert beautiful things, we state that doing this is ok. If we want to say one form of perversion is wrong, we have to say that all forms of perversion are wrong (this includes the ideas spread by outlets such as MTV). By the way, isn't it ironic that people couldn't care less about people before and during their birth but if something happens to them afterwards people are up in arms? Technically all of these children would be (or should be in Planned Parenthood's book) dead if the liberals had their way x years ago so the fact that people care what happens to them is surprising. It would be nice if they cared about them before they were born too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586027773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey1001 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 By the way, isn't it ironic that people couldn't care less about people before and during their birth but if something happens to them afterwards people are up in arms? Technically all of these children would be (or should be in Planned Parenthood's book) dead if the liberals had their way x years ago so the fact that people care what happens to them is surprising. It would be nice if they cared about them before they were born too. 586027773[/snapback] That's ludicrous. You're referring to abortion and one of the basic arguments is that a fetus early on is not a human being, so the abort is preventing that fetus into becoming a being. I mean, how far do you want to take it? Sperm is a living product that we have within our bodies that can eventually create life, so should ejaculate be given the same life status as pro-life supporters give to the fetus? You want to call something ironic in this debate, then surely you can see the irony in staunch conservatives pushing for no abortions and to let the fetus go full term until birth, and then fight any government support for social assistance to help raise that baby if the mother cannot afford to provide the nessesities. If you want to be able to legally force a young mother that erred in judgement one night into giving birth, then offer a helping hand to them so that the child doesn't grow up in poverty. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guol Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 his music is good and stuff, but as a person...nothing he does would surprise me :no: so i say guilty... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigglesTheFish Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 He is guilty of being weird, I am confident in that. As for the child molesting... I've never known of a grown man to sleep with young children and have it be innocent (the exception would be a parent with a child scared of a storm or dream)... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
conna Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I don't care either way. I am tired of hearing about it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobster Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Innocent. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pre Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 You have to admit Michael Jackson is pretty cool. My friend told me how he has more dance moves than most wild moneys from South Africa. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Guilty. You just don't sleep with other people's children. Even if he didn't molest them, he's still a nutzo and should be locked up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pre Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Guilty. You just don't sleep with other people's children. Why not? Sleeping with somebody is different than rooting them... (If your a virgin I can understand why you don't yet know the difference ;)) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Why not? Sleeping with somebody is different than rooting them... (If your a virgin I can understand why you don't yet know the difference ;)) 586028766[/snapback] If you can't see what's messed up about that, then you should be locked up with him ;) And haha, accusing me of being a virgin with that sig :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 If you can't see what's messed up about that, then you should be locked up with him ;) And haha, accusing me of being a virgin with that sig :rofl: 586028770[/snapback] OWNED! (someone was going to say it :p ) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjay Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 If you have followed the case, how can you not see that this whole family is only about money and that the whole story is cooked up to extrort money. There is not a shred of evidence to support the DA's claims and it is apparent that the strategy is simply to throw enough **** and hope that some of it sticks. Michael Jackson is definately innocent and is the victim here. One could say that he may have brought this upon himself due to his eccentric behaviour, but the fact remains that being wierd or crazy is nto a crime. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pre Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 OWNED! (someone was going to say it :p ) 586028825[/snapback] "Owned"? What does that mean? :p *pre thinks you made typo* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586028868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emo Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 guilty. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328620-is-michael-jackson-guilty/page/4/#findComment-586029366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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