Which porable player plays the most codecs?

[raid517]

Which portable player plays the most codecs?

GJ

Edited July 3, 2005 by raid517

[chconline Veteran]

Porable? You mean you need a player with pores? :blink:

[raid517]

Oh, you are just such fun aren't you! :rolleyes: What a wit you are...

GJ

[TrickFinlay2]

VLC

[raid517]

VLC? Can you take that on a plane with you?

Well I guess you could if you had a lap top. But that's not what I'm asking.

GJ

[Smigit]

probably not the most but iAudio X5 supports quite alot. off my head i think it does wma, mp3,mpeg4 (video), ogg, Flac, wav

might be more, I'm not certain on Mpeg4 either, but its one form of video format. As I said, theres probably players with more formats, saying that most people probably use one and stick to that. Personally my entire collection is in WMA as thats what I like.

[Enrickey]

The Rio Karma supports MP3, Vorbis, FLAC (Complete FLAC support, unlike the X5), PCM, WMA, and I think Audible as well, not 100% on that though.

[PaulCabby]

The iAudio X5 or iRiver H3x0.

[notuptome2004]

maby get a Sony PSP since it has UMD movies relased for it a small good sledtion and cna play mpeg4 videos via menmorey card and is made for protable gameing and wirless gameing and can get the internet via a Hack and also cna now play old classic games amd run emulators and mutch more

[Smigit]

  notuptome2004 said:

maby get  a  Sony PSP  since  it has UMD movies  relased for it a  small good sledtion and cna  play mpeg4 videos  via menmorey card and  is  made for  protable gameing and  wirless  gameing and can get the internet via  a  Hack and also cna now play old classic  games amd run emulators and  mutch more

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except it doesnt fit in your pocket and memory sticks cost a fortune for a decent size and then your only getting 1gig.

Depends what you need, but as a DAP alone a PSP is probably to much for most people

[notuptome2004]

  Smigit said:

except it doesnt fit in your pocket and memory sticks cost a fortune for a decent size and then your only getting 1gig.

Depends what you need, but as a DAP alone a PSP is probably to much for most people

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They do make PSP acceseries sutch hasa neckband umm carrying case and stuff it is perty small n ot to small but it does play all formats basicly and it does more then just audio and video when count the Hacks that have been done and the endless gameing sessions he cna do @ Starbucks and mutch mutch more. so think of it this way.

(Ipod 6G Music only) (Other MP3 HD players 1to3G) <<< $250 (Sony PSP Gameing /Online Gameing/Music Custom and Retial/Movies Retial/Movies cutsom Files/Internet browsing Via Hack/Classic gameing Via Emulators and roms/ Takeing Notes/ Picture viewing (Moble) and same cost as audio only players.

[PaulCabby]

  notuptome2004 said:

  (Ipod 6G Music only) (Other MP3 HD players 1to3G) <<< $250 (Sony PSP Gameing /Online Gameing/Music Custom and Retial/Movies Retial/Movies cutsom Files/Internet browsing Via Hack/Classic gameing  Via Emulators and  roms/ Takeing Notes/ Picture viewing (Moble) and same cost as  audio only players.

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Its dead expensive just to buy a 1GB memory card.

Also, remember its "iPod", there are more cheaper players out there.

[notuptome2004]

  PaulCabby said:

Its dead expensive just to buy a 1GB memory card.

Also, remember its "iPod", there are more cheaper players out there.

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yes buy a cheaper player out ther that curtianly not breaking the market barrer on sales. Ipod is the most populer MP3 audio player out ther. and most otehr players in that range are still barly 1gig and most are Flashed based still at 250 not all but some are still flashed based

[+vlsi0n Subscriber¹]

:x the iPod doesnty support many file types though but still most popular.. :whistle:

[notuptome2004]

  vlsi0n said:

:x the iPod doesnty support many file types though but still most popular..  :whistle:

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You are right thats why i siad for him to geta PSP it will support everything and what it wont support it will later on with all them Hacks comming out. plus i love the fact with PSP things are fairly cheap $19 a UMD movie witch isant bad at all

[icecaveman]

Well you could get a Dell Axim x50v, it has better video capabilities than PSP, and it sure has much more codecs than any portable music player.

[notuptome2004]

  icecaveman said:

Well you could get a Dell Axim x50v, it has better video capabilities than PSP, and it sure has much more codecs than any portable music player.

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yes but it is $399 and does not play games welll maby card games he he but thats it so i dont think thats an option for him at all

[raid517]

I don't care that much about games - though they are nice I guess. But that's a PDA. I'm only really interested in pure high capacity (20GB+ minimum) media players -preferably with audiophile type sound quality. Hence why I am interested in media players that support lossless codecs. (I know Apple has their own - but most of my files are in FLAC).

GJ

[icecaveman]

  notuptome2004 said:

yes  but  it is  $399  and does  not  play games welll maby card games  he he but thats it so i dont think thats an option for him at all

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It plays lots of games and emulates SNES much better than PSP. lots of good stuff like PocketSCUMM, Pocket UFO etc... plus it's has 16MB graphics that are going to be used more later this year

[raid517]

But it's a fekin PDA!!! I don't want a portable gaming system or a PDA - I just want a genuinely audiophile quality large capacity media player. I already have a 60GB ipod Iphoto - but I am not convince that the sound quality is all that much to write home about so far. However I have just ordered a set of these earphones, so hopefully you will understand just how much I care about sound quality.

GJ

[Chad]

  vlsi0n said:

:x the iPod doesnty support many file types though but still most popular..?:whistle::

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The iPod supports just as many file types as any other portable music player out there. mp3, aac, wav, aiff, audible, and Apple lossless. They may not be the files you use, but don't say it supports less when that is clearly not true.

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But it's a fekin PDA!!! I don't want a portable gaming system or a PDA - I just want a genuinely audiophile quality large capacity media player. I already have a 60GB ipod Iphoto - but I am not convince that the sound quality is all that much to write home about so far. However I have just ordered a set of these earphones, so hopefully you will understand just how much I care about sound quality.

GJ

Unless you are using lossless rips, you won't notice a difference in audio quality between the iPod and any other player. It may not use the best hardware, but we're talking about lossy codecs here. The hardware in portable players doesn't matter. Not until you start comparing cheap and expensive home systems will you notice the difference.

[notuptome2004]

Really tho a PSP would do you well it is an all in 1 system. With eye-popping graphics, dazzling widescreen LCD, wireless connectivity and the ability to play games, music and movies when and where you want, the PSP gives you the freedom to enjoy entertainment on your terms. Tech specs

* Dimensions (Approximate): 6.7" x 2.9" x 0.9"

* Weight (Approximate): 0.62 lb (280g) including battery

* CPU: PSP CPU (System clock frequency 1 - 333MHz)

* Main memory: 32MB

* Embedded DRAM: 4MB

* Display Type: 4.3"1 TFT LCD

* Display Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Wide screen

* Display Resolution: 480 x 272 pixel, 16.77 million colors

* Maximum luminance when using battery pack: 180 cd/m2 / 130 cd/m2 / 80 cd/m2

* Maximum luminance when using AC adaptor: 200 cd/m2 / 180cd/m2 / 130 cd/m2 / 80 cd/m2

* Sound: Built-in stereo speakers

* Main input/output: IEEE 802.11b (WiFi), USB 2.02 (mini-B), Memory Stick Duo? media, and infrared Port

* Disc drive: UMD drive (Read only)

* Main connectors: Memory Stick Duo? Slot, USB connector2, DC IN 5V connector, headset connector

* Keys/switches: directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left), Analog Stick, Enter keys (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square), Left shoulder button, Right shoulder button, START button, SELECT button, HOME button, POWER / HOLD switch, Display button, Sound button, Volume +/- buttons, Wireless LAN switch (ON/OFF), OPEN latch (UMD)

* Power: Lithium-ion Battery, AC Adaptor

* UMD video codec: H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC Main Profile Level 3

* UMD music codec: Linear PCM , ATRAC3plus?3

* Memory Stick Duo? video codec4: MPEG-4 SP, AAC

* Memory Stick Duo? music codec: ATRAC3plus?,MP3 (MPEG1/2 Layer 3)

* Security (encryption): 128bit AES

* Security (copyright protection technology): MagicGate?

* Access control: region, parental control

* Wireless communications (IEEE802.11b): Infrastructure mode, Ad hoc mode (connection up to 16 consoles)

[Smigit]

but this is for a dap (as the original poster asked for), the psp is huge and that screen is pretty much useless for people who ONLY want to listen to audio. I know theres cases but many people want to listen to their devices while they are excercising, jogging, running and the like. I don't see what the point in pushing the PSP is, it doesn't have a harddrive so your ability to carry much media around with you is limited, and to get higher capacity sony sticks cost an arm and a leg. Why are you so insistant in pushing that as a DAP, it's not a DAP, its a Portable Gaming Device first and foremost.

Saying PSP for which DAP has the most codecs is like saying PC for which console has the most games based on the fact theres a Emulator available on the PC for pretty much every console meaning it plays every game. Doesnt change the fact a PC isn't a console but.

Two of the companies listed in the upcomming paragraph have players that play back video too. So assuming he did want a bit of video on the side then he could get that. The point is that a 20 gig + drive is probably more valuable to someone wanting purely audio than a large screen and game playback and will be cheaper than a psp even before you start buying the PSP memory sticks. (and please dont come back and say video will be better on the psp, I'm well aware. I'm just saying if he ever got the itch for a bit he'd have the chance yet still have a dap 1st and foremost with him)

To the original poster, the X5 and creatives and iriver all have extremly good audio quality. Other than that you may consider a Nio Carbon for its gapless playback. I don't know much about that device but.

Edited July 4, 2005 by Smigit

[notuptome2004]

  Smigit said:

but this is for a dap (as the original poster asked for), the psp is huge and that screen is pretty much useless for people who ONLY want to listen to audio. I know theres cases but many people want to listen to their devices while they are excercising, jogging, running and the like. I don't see what the point in pushing the PSP is, it doesn't have a harddrive so your ability to carry much media around with you is limited, and to get higher capacity sony sticks cost an arm and a leg. Why are you so insistant in pushing that as a DAP, it's not a DAP, its a Portable Gaming Device first and foremost.

Saying PSP for which DAP has the most codecs is like saying PC for which console has the most games based on the fact theres a Emulator available on the PC for pretty much every console meaning it plays every game. Doesnt change the fact a PC isn't a console but.

To the original poster, the X5 and creatives and iriver all have extremly good audio quality. Other than that you may consider a Nio Carbon for its gapless playback. I don't know much about that device but.

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ok Ipod @ 6gigs can hold no more then 1500songs or ther about i have 5gigs of music on my PC and thats oh 934songs tot. so i think thats alot of music to cary around and if he gets the PSP and a 1gig stick at some point he can have plenty of music. and when playing music fromt he memorey stick it wont skip i have tested that out at gamecrazy and from what i have leanred i can go in to a low power mode wher the LCD is off when playing music. so eather way he will have plenty of music. Now your point on the PC being able to play every game out ther is stupid when in fact you cant since ther is no real working PS2 emulation and ther is no PSP emulation that may work and since just today it was foudn out someone did hack that lemings game and make a copy of it. no xbox emulation eather that may or may not work to my knolage for them Xbox only games. So NO the PC cant play everygame out ther.

[Smigit]

even without PS2 or Xbox you would have a far greater number of games playable over a PC as you still have PS1, Nintendo systems, Gameboy, atari, arcade and sega among others plus PC itself.

And yes, an Ipod can hold 1500 songs but you do realise they have players with capacity up to 60gb? Even if he only chose a micro drive of say 5 gigs, 1500/5 = 300songs per a gig so by your math thats all he could hold on a PSP memory stick.

Cost wise the PSP is far more expensive too as a dap. Not only does the PSP itself cost more than most 20Gb media players, you then have to buy a memory stick to be able to carry your audio on it. Sony memory sticks are extremly expensive and this furthermore jacks the price up. MP3 players at least you can use out of the box. (I wont consider headphones since you would need to buy new ones with a psp also if you are into higher quality phones than those supplied).

And yes, I realise it wont skip but you can get flash based Mp3 players that are ALOT cheaper than a PSP and probably sound better. Infact, although it is exy there is a 2GB Cowan available NOW so your still getting more capacity per a dollar compared to a PSP. Overall the PSP may be better value than this player, but not if you dont want to be gaming.

Again I repeat, the PSP is bulky for a audio player alone and while 300 songs on a stick may be ample for you, theres alot of people (like myself and alot of people looking for a dap) that would rather have their full collection with them at all times incase they get the itch to play something.

back to my pc game arguement which you rebutted it doesnt play every game, well likewise when you say "geta PSP it will support everything and what it wont support it will later on with all them Hacks comming out" I can reply that it doesnt support every format at all, probably wont even with hacks and if you are relying on hacks then why not hack your dap's firmware???

I'm not trying to diss the psp at all, I would love one myself but recomending it as a dap isn't necessarily the best idea as it isn't designed for that (its gaming 1st and foremost) and the original poster clearly stated he didn't want a gaming device but a dedicated dap.

Also I have 1330 songs on my comp, but that takes up 10.95 gigs with my compreesion. If I was to put these on a DAP I MAY consider reencoding them to say 190kb/s, but if battery permitted then I may not even bother (I'll see what I do when /If I get an X5L)