Miuku. Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 (edited) still really miss having apt, though, I tried to install a Rosegarden RPM but it didn't work because I have no clue how to get hold of the libmad.so package it depends on.586172271[/snapback] rpm --install -hv ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/apt4rpm/9.3/apt{-libs,}-0.5.15cnc7-0.suse093.rb0.i586.rpm Save http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.3-i386/examples/sources.list.FTP as /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update For GUI: rpm --install ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/apt4rpm/9.3/synaptic-0.57-0.suse093.rb0.i586.rpm Enjoy APT4RPM. EDIT: Added code tags so the urls won't croak. EDIT^2: You might want to remove some of the packages from the sources.list if you want to save some time - there are QUITE A FEW repositories on it, updating might take quite a while. Edited July 6, 2005 by daPhoenix Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586172361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_demilord Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 some links http://www.suseforums.net/ http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/ http://www.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page hope this helps someone... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586172472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncinDave Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 My brain is jello at the moment due to the heat so let me get this straight before I say anything :DPrinter<->PC with Windows(?)<->WLAN<->PC with SUSE? 586172010[/snapback] yeah, looks right :yes: its win XP if that does anything extra Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586172485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thagame Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 suse used to be good. fedora ruined it. the people that like an optimized distro according to your system should stick to gentoo and the n00bs should stick to noobuntu. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586172509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilGator Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 suse used to be good. fedora ruined it. the people that like an optimized distro according to your system should stick to gentoo and the n00bs should stick to noobuntu. 586172509[/snapback] Is Gentoo the one that doesn't have an installer ? EEesh, not that I'm a n00b, but it's a PITA to have to set that all up yourself ... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586172535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Is Gentoo the one that doesn't have an installer ? EEesh, not that I'm a n00b, but it's a PITA to have to set that all up yourself ... 586172535[/snapback] I've always liked this Urban Dics definition: 3. gentoo Watching sh-it scroll by for hours makes me a Linux expert overnight! I like gentoo and hondas. :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586172592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensayshun Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Sorry for a useless post but ^ :D :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586172641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Fanatic Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Hmm, I'm torn. Thanks for pointing me to apt for RPM which is nice, but what really bothers me about my SUSE installation apart from the "crippled" multimedia support, which is really a joke (they could've simply left those packages out instead of replacing them with barely functional versions) is that SUSE seems frighteningly slow on my machine (Athlon 2600+, 768 megs of RAM), most programs take pretty long to start up and access my HD all the time, Konqueror loads web pages a lot slower than Firefox, and the service manager that came with SUSE (I forgot its name, but its icon looks like traffic lights) has to be the slowest program I've come across in quite some time! I right click on a service and it takes a minute for the properties dialogue box to come up. This is really a shame, as KDE really rocks, but how did they make it behave this slowly? I'm back on Windows now and I have the feeling my computer is twice as fast now. Kubunto also ran a lot zippier. On the plus side, some SUSE versions of common applications seem very well put together and the easy-to-use IME is a plus, too. SUSE also does seem pretty stable (although Kopete still likes to crash) while Kubuntu's crash-happiness annoyed me quite a lot. Guess Linux and I aren't made for each other. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586176337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 SUSE seems frighteningly slow on my machine (Athlon 2600+, 768 megs of RAM), most programs take pretty long to start up and access my HD all the time586176337[/snapback] One of the reasons it feels so "slow" is because it has been 'tuned' for every possible configuration under the sun and with extreme failsafe settings - which are incidentally also very slow. There are tons of ways to tweak the system for extra performance. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586176590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncinDave Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Can you tell us any tweaks for it then? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586177344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKap Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 how much is suse? im asking cuz im still looking into getting linux, soo... how much is it? or if free wher can i get it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586177426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccofresh Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I installed it on my PC at work last week and am running it since then most of the time. Its been working pretty good except that I cant edit my word documents cause open office ****s up the formating :( Ive been trying to get M$ Word running with wine but didnt suxeed in that yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586177446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpCoder Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 You can download it from Novell here: http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofes...tions_eval.html Or, you can order the Novell Linux Technical Resource Kit, which includes Suse 9.3 Pro, from here: https://secure-www.novell.com/community/linux/order.php? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586177447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1g1talMan Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I've been using it for a few weeks now on my laptop and desktop, and must say, I'm quite impressed. The built in NTFS support is excellent, good detection of hardware and easy to set up new devices, etc. Much more refined than Fedora in my opinion, YaST is excellent. I highly reccomend. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586177473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Love it (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586177477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassed Silver Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 the advantage of this system is that its easy and it can do a lot of stuff (configuring etc) itself without needing user input, but u still CAN input things... also, a total n00b to linux can enjoy it and even pro's dont need to be ashamed of using it, because of its simpliness... i installed it once (7.3) and used a lot of LIVE cds like 9.2 and sum older ones... now i decided to install it on my 6.81 GB large partition. i just have 2 questions left... whats the best file system again? and: how much GBs do i need for the FULL installation of suse linux 9.3 pro (using KDE and lets say about 90% of all additional software packages -> just to make sure im ready for the future ;))? thanks for any assistance -fm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586178536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_demilord Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Out of the box Suse is indeed a resource-hog I almost turned of 40-60% of the services wich I do not use. The memory usage after a reboot is 290MB wich is twice as much as windows XP but I don't tweak enough anymore becos it feels fine as it is now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586178832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Fanatic Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 What did you use to disable the services you don't need and which ones are safe to disable? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/340028-is-suse-93-really-that-good/page/2/#findComment-586178965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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