Star Wars: Episode III Discussion

[SuperJediMedia]

George Lucas hinted what's to come in Episode III to Starlog Magazine (issue #300)

Lucas on Qui-Gon Jinn?s voice in Episode II:b>

STARLOG: And isn?t that Qui-Gon Jinn?s [Liam Neeson] voice we hear during Anakin?s attack on the Tusken Raiders who killed Shmi Skywalker [Pernilla August]?

LUCAS: That?s a fan thing, isn?t it? It?s actually more than that. It?s a plot point. All I can really say is that you?ll find out [more] in the next film. If you thought really hard, you would probably be able to figure it out, but it really is a set-up for the next film. It?s connected with the whole ability to be brought into and become a part of the Force, but still be able to retain YOUR ability ? which, up to this point, Anakin couldn?t do. We talked to Liam about [recording new dialogue], and we went back and forth [about it]. This [dialogue] is something we already had [from Menace]. Next time will be a little Lucas on Boba Fett:>Lucas on Boba Fett:

?Boba WILL be in Episode III, but his role definitely won?t be larger. He?s in a transition period of becoming a bounty hunter. The next film takes place two or three years later, so Boba would only be 13 and still Lucas on killing Samuel L. Jackson?s character, Mace Windu:son?s character, Mace Windu:

?Sam?s a little concerned that I make it nice and dramatic. It won?Lucas on Darth Vader:t scene.?

Lucas on Darth Vader:

STARLOG: What of all the plot threads and character tidbits that remain to be tied up in Episode III are you ? the guy who created this whole universe ? most excited to get on film?

LUCAS: The scene where Anakin does actually become Vader is pretty good [as written in Lucas? Episode III outline]. I mean, I like it. It?s a little in the vocabulary of?I don?t know how much I want to give away?but it?s in the vocabulary of a time ? of the 1930s and 1940s. It?s a pretty neat little thing, I think, and hopefully it?s going to work.

STARLOG: Will we see more of Anakin or Darth Vader in Episode III?

LUCAS: It?s mostly Anakin.

[aco Veteran]

...My prediction. :D

Anakin is spured on by Palpatine (Sideous) to kill Dukoo - just like Luke in ROTJ. He finishes him off and thus becomes Sideous's apprentice. Obi-Wan fights Anakin and he falls in acid - or so I've heard...

Despite what I think, i'll be going to see it when it opens.

[Joseph Zollo]

Originally posted by aco

...My prediction. :D

Anakin is spured on by Palpatine (Sideous) to kill Dukoo - just like Luke in ROTJ. He finishes him off and thus becomes Sideous's apprentice. Obi-Wan fights Anakin and he falls in acid - or so I've heard...

Despite what I think, i'll be going to see it when it opens.

I believe he falls in a volcano, but obi wan saves him from dying. JediXAngel, did you get that from TFN?

[AgEnTsMiTh]

I have also read its a major battle atop a large valcano and he falls in.

[RazerBack]

http://us.imdb.com/PeopleNews/2002/20020624

[spyderman450]

Originally posted by RazerBack

http://us.imdb.com/PeopleNews/2002/20020624

Sounds like bad news for JediXAngel :p :D

[SuperJediMedia]

Not at all :p I support Lesbians 100%

I am a Democrat you know! ;)

[Osiris]

lol ahh I have no respect or admiration for her anymore, of all the people most likely to become a lesbian.

Eitherway the plot aco suggested is alright but I hope it doesnt work like that.

1. Some similarities fine, because the force by nature is a very ritualistc and traditional thing but you dont want too many similarities between the prequels and originals.

2. I hope the whole force death thing is very much Explained fully and clearly in EPIII, I think weve all waitied since EP I to find out what the deal with that is.

3. I hope Mace Windus Death is rather spectacular, could make some great scenes with his death sequence.

4. Dont know why but would love to see More Clone trooper action, those loyal fellas rock, they handle themselves great and accurately unlike some sorry 99% of all storm troopers

Also would love to see Darth Maul return, gees I liked that bad ass, he looked so cool.

[Guest deadzombie]

We'll see slightly different Clone/Storm troopers...probably a mix between episodes 2 and 4.

Troop transports shown at the end of 2 will be slightly larger; maybe even an appearance of one of the first star destroyers in 3.

Windu won't be the only one to die; Vader/ Anakin was supposed to have hunted down and killed most of the Jedi. Could this happen the last part of 3?

(I hope) Mace Windu is disentigrated by Boba Fett (the 13 yr. old). In ep.5, Vader makes a point to tell Boba "..and NO disentigrations!!". Lucas has been tying these movies together pretty well...this could be another tie-in.

C-3PO will lose a body part/ be dissassembled. Seems to happen every other scene throughout the series. Thats a no-brainer.

The Senate survives the movie. We hear that the Senate has just been disbanded during ep.4. Im hoping we see Palpatine claim his status as Emporer. I'd like to believe that will pretty much be the focus of ep.3.

I've got other guesses...too many to count.

[unimatrixzer0]

Originally posted by deadzombie

(I hope) Mace Windu is disentigrated by Boba Fett (the 13 yr. old). In ep.5, Vader makes a point to tell Boba "..and NO disentigrations!!". Lucas has been tying these movies together pretty well...this could be another tie-in.

bah! Mace Windu is the man. I'd was hoping he'd be the one to huny anakin down and put him in his place =/

I sure as heck hope that little punk doesn't do anything to mace, besides, that kinda death doesn't go with the spectacular death sence he's asking for. hehe

[altezza Veteran]

This is what I got from my friend...dunno where he got it from but it seems too good to hear...but anyway not sure if this going to be implemented into the Episode III itself..

Sorry for this long post...but be warned of the spoiler! And I do apologize you if my post for this thread proves too offensive (in terms of level of spolers ahead) for some viewers. I am completely understand if the moderators of this forum of deciding whether to delete my post or not...but it's up to them.

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Star Wars Episode III: The Rise of the Empire

The Clone Wars are now over two years old. The entire galaxy has been thrown into haos. On one side of the conflict are hundreds of separatist star systems, led by the charismatic Count Dooku, who are rebelling against the Republic led by the scheming-in-secret Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Palpatine manages to place blame on the Galactic Senate and the Jedi Knights for much of what is going on during the wars. Palpatine makes them the escape goats for all of the galaxies many problems.

The people grow tired of the Galactic Senate and the Jedi Knights. They are ready for drastic change and Palpatine realizes this. At the beginning of the movie, Anakin and Obi-Wan fight in various Clone War battles. Obi-Wan is now a general fighting for Bail Organa of Alderaan. Palpatine senses Anakin's impatience with the Jedi Knights. The Jedi seek to keep Anakin from Padme. Also, Anakin hates being both poor and relatively powerless. A Jedi takes a vow of poverty. Anakin believes that he is perhaps the greatest Jedi ever and wants people to recognize his greatness. In secret, Palpatine approaches Anakin. Palpatine explains the ways of the dark side and how it can be used by Anakin to make him rich and powerful. Anakin is receptive. He and Padme have nothing and they will always have nothing as long as Anakin remains a Jedi. Palpatine's offer cannot be refused.

Palpatine explains to Anakin the rules of the Sith. Palpatine tells Anakin that only two Sith Lords can exist at any one time. If Anakin wants to become rich and powerful, then Anakin must face Darth Tyranus again and kill Darth Tyranus in order to become Palpatine's new apprentice. Later, Anakin and Tyranus meet face to face. Anakin slays Tyranus after an intense light-saber duel. While Anakin is falling to the dark side, Obi-Wan is busy fighting in the wars. Padme contacts Obi-Wan and tells Obi-Wan that Anakin is leaving the Jedi Order.

Obi-Wan leaves the war and rushes to confront Anakin. Obi-Wan finds Anakin on a volcanic world. Anakin tells Obi-Wan that the Jedi are weak. The Jedi seek to be both poor and powerless. Anakin states that the dark side offers riches beyond any man's wildest ambitions. Anakin calls Obi-Wan an idealistic fool for staying with the Jedi. The two begin to argue. A light-saber battle between them erupts. Obi-Wan states that he cannot disobey the Jedi Council and blocks Anakin's attack. Anakin becomes reckless and falls into a molten pool. Anakin's light sabre falls to the ground. Obi-Wan watches Anakin sink into the lava pool. Obi-Wan exits the battle area to find help for Anakin.

Palpatine enters and has his storm troopers rescue Anakin from the molten pool. They then quickly leave the area. A few minutes later, Obi-Wan returns with some other Jedi Knights. They are unable to find Anakin. Obi-Wan assumes the molten pool has consumed Anakin's body. Obi-Wan finds Anakin's light sabre on the ground and takes it with him. Obi-Wan tells Padme that Anakin is dead. Padme is saddened by this news. Palpatine's medical droids nurse Anakin back to health. Anakin is eventually placed into his familiar-looking black mask and body armor. Palpatine teaches Anakin to the ways of the Sith.

Anakin grows to hate the Jedi and the Republic. Palpatine promises that, in time, Anakin will be reunited with Padme, but in the mean time Anakin must be patient and allow their plan to unfold. Anakin takes the name of Darth Vader. Only Palpatine and his trusted minions know that Darth Vader is actually Anakin. Everyone else believes that Anakin is dead. The Clone Wars continue to rage on and thousands of Republic clones are killed in the various battles. Many Jedi are killed in the wars. The Galactic Senate is under heavy pressure from their people to find a way to end the wars. Palpatine continues to frame the Senate and the Jedi as the reason the wars are going so badly. The people demand and end to the Jedi's and Senate's competence and corruption. Palpatine takes this opportunity to declare himself Emperor. He immediately abolishes the Galactic Senate, Jedi Council and the entire Jedi Order.

The people hail Palpatine as the savior of the Republic. Palpatine replaces the Galactic Senate with the Imperial Senate. The members of the new Senate are hand picked by Palpatine. The Imperial Senate and Palpatine issue a proclamation declaring the Jedi Knights to be enemies of the Republic. They order the immediate arrest of all Jedi Knights. The Jedi begin to go into hiding. Jabba the Hutt helps Palpatine hunt down the Jedi. Many Jedi are killed during this purge. Separatist's agents leak false information to Republic spies concerning a super weapon being developed by the separatist's scientists on Geonosis.

Palpatine states that the Republic must have this weapon. Of course, the super weapon does not exist and Palpatine knows this, but he uses this weapon as an excuse to send all of the Republic's remaining star ships into a trap. Palpatine expects the separatist's cloaked fleet to completely annihilate the Republic's star ships and remaining fighters. All the star ships of the Republic military converge on Geonosis. The flag ship of the Republic fleet contains Palpatine and Darth Vader. Obi-Wan sneaks his star ship into the Geonosis system. Palpatine's flag ship detects Obi-Wan's ship and captures it with tractor beam. Obi-Wan is brought aboard Palpatine's ship. There are no enemy star ships visible near Geonosis since the separatists's fleet remains hidden with cloaking technology.

When the trap is set, the separatist's fleet de-cloakes and destroys most of the Republic's remaining star ships and fighters. Palpatine surrenders and separatist troops board Palpatine's ship and take Palpatine, Darth Vader and Obi-Wan to the lower levels of the separatist's ship. Yoda, Mace Windu and a pregnant Padme are brought before the separatists leaders. For their protection, Yoda, Windu and Padme are surrounded by creatures we have never seen before. The separatist leader announces that Palpatine and the entire Republic have surrendered. The great Republic has finally lost the war.

A great battle erupts between Yoda, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan vs. the separatists, Palpatine and Darth Vader. It is a tremendous fight. Yoda, Mace, Padme and Obi-Wan manage to escape on a starship. Their starship arrives on an obscure planet called Dagobah. Prior to Luke and Leia's birth, Obi-Wan states that he will now go by the name Ben. The Skywalker twins are born on Dagobah. After many shed tears, Yoda is left behind on Dagobah. Next, Obi-Wan and baby Luke taken to the forgotten world of Tatooine. The final destination for Mace Windu, Padme and baby Leia is the safety of Alderaan. Bail Organa greets them with open arms. Bail gives them a secret hiding place. Lastly, Obi-Wan is seen at Owen and Beru Lars' home. He gives Luke to them to raise. Obi-Wan tells Owen and Beru that Obi-Wan is now dead along with all the other Jedi Knights. He will now go by the name Ben.

The film ends with baby Luke in the gentle arms of Ben Kenobi. The ghostly spirits of many Jedi Knights appear behind Obi-Wan and baby Luke. And the rest, they say, is Star Wars history.

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That's all the story. Don't ask me where my friend got it from.

[Guest deadzombie]

You know, even if thats not how it happens, thats a good enough story that it SHOULD happen like that!

Very cool.

[Osiris]

Yes indeed by all accounts the reports and spoilers I have also seen have been incredibly similar to that

so given the sheer number of them ive seen in the last 2 weesk im sortas inclined to think alot of the main points that are mentioned are obviously what happens.

Eitherway EP III is sure to be great.

[IanD]

I have the actual script ;)

-sMk

[altezza Veteran]

Originally posted by sMk

I have the actual script ;)

-sMk

Does it look like the one I posted above? But anyway the actual script you have may not be the actual one...it's still too early to see the Episode III glimpses, and it does give you idea what's going happen (well at least).

Even Lucas still have not finalize the script, or even starting the Episode III filming until he have finalized the script.

Well Episode III gonna be the last SW movie Lucas going to direct. There will be no more SW movies after that. But I do hope the original trilogy need to remake. Just compare the lightsaber fighting in Ep I and II to the one in IV, V, and VI. It makes the lightsaber fight in original trilogy looks really slow and lame and also not energetic.

[Osiris]

Hrmm there may not be word of another SW movie for another 5-10 years after EP III is released

however given hollywood, expanded universe or further SW movies will be made, because the franchise can still me milked to turn over a profit.

And if they made the movies based off the Expanded Universe books theyd already be making profits as a hell of alot of people seem to read and enjoy the expanded universe saga.

[altezza Veteran]

The full production of 1 SW movie takes the period of 3 years and also hence the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on each of them. And yes, how about teams at ILM? Very tiring project despite huge usage of computer graphic throughout the movie.

I don't think Lucas want to make every expanded SW universe (based on books) into the movie...it's too much. I think it might be a better idea if the expanded SW universe could be translated into TV series (like Star Trek).

Maybe Lucas is likely to focus more on linking between original trilogy and the recent episodes.

[RazerBack]

Where Luke is confronted by Darth Vader on Dagobah during a test that Yoda gave to Luke. I remember in a book that there was a great battle during the clone wars. And that place was strong with the Dark Side.

I wonder if we'll see what happened there.:paranoid:

Are they going to wipe out the droids memory too?

[Nova_rock]

i dont think that the finnal version of the ep III scrip has been writen, lucas is workin gon remaking ep 4-6 agian for there releace onto dvd. there will be new footage with better fights (not just digitalised like the theater one)

natalie portman is on of the actors that will have roles in the dvd version,

[redrope]

WHAT!? Samuel cant die! Thats Shaft! :D

[MulletRobZ]

Here's what I could predict in Episode III:

-Anakin finishes his training, but Corazon becomes invaded by the remaining troops of the Federation.

-Obi Wan Kenobi summons the clone troopers to kill off the rest of the Federation.

-The count becomes assassinated, but Darth Sidious hides at Tatooine (Darth Sidious was in Episode IV, I think)

-The crisis is over, but Palpantine somehow refused to give up the dictatorial power. Could it be the power consuming him as well as the negative side of the force?

-Anakin and Padma Amidela have their son, Luke. Where else would Luke come from?

-Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin become attacked by some different alien force, which sparked speculation about Anakin and Obi-Wan being killed.

-Maybe the volcano incident as you fellows described did exist, so that would probably happen near the end.

-After being rescued, Anakin probably becomes kidnapped by Darth Sidious or some other remains of the dark side and maybe that was how he betrayed the Jedi and how he became Darth Vader.

It might be a bit silly, but that's as good as I can think at this moment.

[DoNuTjC]

This film comes out sometime next year or in 2k4?? Are there star wars geeks already in line?? lol

When I say star war geeks, I don't mean it in a bad way, I grew up on sar wars but I would never wait in line like some of these guys...

[JiGGax717]

This film comes out sometime next year or in 2k4?? Are there star wars geeks already in line?? lol

haha..

/me plays his clip from conan o' brian

triumph the dog - return of the dorks

[DoNuTjC]

Originally posted by JiGGax717

haha..

/me plays his clip from conan o' brian

triumph the dog - return of the dorks

I've seen it... funny sh**

[leanez]

Originally posted by DoNuTjC

This film comes out sometime next year or in 2k4?? Are there star wars geeks already in line?? lol

I think 2k5 or maybe 2k6, who knows?? :D