Networking problems w/ DSL and hub

[The D]

Okay recently our ISP, Qwest, merged with MSN.

Therefore we got an MSN DSL modem in the mail.

Now, before, with the Cisco 675 DSL modem, I just plugged it into the uplink on our network hub, plugged the other computers in the house into the other ports, and everything worked fine- internet on all 3 computers.

Now, however, with this new modem (NetDSL 800) I can only use one computer connected to the hub at a time. If I connect another computer it says "network error, IP conflict" or something very similar. If I try to renew the IP on whatever computer isn't working, it just hangs for a while then says there was an error renewing the IP.

Any ideas on how to get all the computers to work on the hub?

Keep in mind I'm not very well versed in this area, so the simplest answer possible would be good :)

[poolman]

I don't know anything about DSL, but, maybe you check the DHCP setting under your network. I know a router automatically does this for you and you have to disable it under yor network settings. Maybe you can make sure it is enabled??

Hope this helps

poolman

[Chipi]

did you change the hub too? cause it looks like your hub don't give you separate IPs.

[The D]

Nope same exact hub, and I agree that it doesnt' seem to be assigning seperate IPs.

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Originally posted by poolman

I don't know anything about DSL, but, maybe you check the DHCP setting under your network. I know a router automatically does this for you and you have to disable it under yor network settings. Maybe you can make sure it is enabled??

Hope this helps

poolman

Um so is DHCP supposed to be on or off???

[Killa-b]

a hub is not a router, its a hub. it just transfers data, it has no real brain besides determining where the info is to go.

on the rare times you can plug a dsl or cable modem into uplink, its a fluke with the way the isp's network is set up. if it does not work now you cant do anything about it.

options open. buy a second NIC and then use your computer as a router, for the other computers. or buy a router. option 1 is best costs like 10 bucks. (CDN)

anywho, sorry to tell you the bad news

[The D]

Really :(

That's odd that I could use 3 computers with the hub before :(

[poolman]

AS far as I know, if your not running a router then you should have DCHP enabled. I have cable and before I bought a router I had to have that enabled. DHCP asssigns IP addresses to each of your PC's.

[Killa-b]

I used to be on cogeco @home and i could share with just a hub, then i moved back to Ottawa with rogers@home and no more hub share, DHCP (dynamic host config protocol) gives each computer a unique ip addr. each computer must have a unique ip. the sharing of the net with a uplink port on a hub is just luck given the isps config. by all technical means it should not work, but it does :)/... sometimes.

you dont have to have dhcp id you dont want to, you could set ip for each computer if you wanted to, but dhcp makes it easier, and he is right the only way the "uplink-hub" works is if dhcp is enabled, that way you get your ip from a dsl server.

again, 10 buck and 5 mins solves the entire problem

the uplink port is for upgrading your hub. say you have a 4 port hub and get a 5 or 6 comp, you dont need to buy a new 8 port, you can buy another 4 port and plug it into the uplink port and it acts as a 8 port, more or less.

hubs are chain-able by using the uplink port. if someone knows a way to make any connection work over uplink PLEASE PLEASE tell me!!

[The D]

Is it just me or are the options in XP in totally horrible places :(

Where on earth do you find DHCP????

[poolman]

Goto Start: Control Panel: Network & Internet Connections:

Network Connections: Right Click on Local Area Connections: Highlight TCP/IP & click properties: Click on ADVANCED located at the bottom: It should be listed IP Address

[The D]

Ahh thanks, too bad it's enabled already :(

How would I configure things via a second NIC?

[Killa-b]

ok so you choose a "host" computer, say yours, this computer must be on for the others to use the internet. in that computer there are to network cards. 1 connects to the dsl modem, the other connects to the hub in a normal jack. all the others connect to the hub like normal. then in xp go to the network properties box and tick "share connection" for the dsl network card. a little salt for flavor stir, mix garnish with lime. ta-da

[poolman]

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Originally posted by Killa-b

ok so you choose a "host" computer, say yours, this computer must be on for the others to use the internet. in that computer there are to network cards. 1 connects to the dsl modem, the other connects to the hub in a normal jack. all the others connect to the hub like normal. then in xp go to the network properties box and tick "share connection" for the dsl network card. a little salt for flavor stir, mix garnish with lime. ta-da

Love that ending! Thats Great

[poolman]

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Originally posted by Killa-b

ok so you choose a "host" computer, say yours, this computer must be on for the others to use the internet. in that computer there are to network cards. 1 connects to the dsl modem, the other connects to the hub in a normal jack. all the others connect to the hub like normal. then in xp go to the network properties box and tick "share connection" for the dsl network card. a little salt for flavor stir, mix garnish with lime. ta-da

Love that ending! Thats Great

[The D]

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Originally posted by Killa-b

ok so you choose a "host" computer, say yours, this computer must be on for the others to use the internet. in that computer there are to network cards. 1 connects to the dsl modem, the other connects to the hub in a normal jack. all the others connect to the hub like normal. then in xp go to the network properties box and tick "share connection" for the dsl network card. a little salt for flavor stir, mix garnish with lime. ta-da

Thanks, that's about what I figured you would have to do... I've messed around with sharing a dial up connection the same way.