Boiling Ice Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 the lowest ping I've ever get was 90, I have an ADSL 256/64 speed. my pc has: 2.6G Intel 1 GB RAM Nvidia Fx5200 with 128 RAM I feel that I can turn up CS to give me a ping like 60 or 50... what shall I do?? any tips will be highly appreciated. P.S.... how to take a screen shot in CS source? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PukiMan Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Maybe better GFX card and aster Internet connection? edit: Nah, just better graphic card will do the job. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling Ice Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 PukiMan said: Maybe better GFX card and aster Internet connection? 586344158[/snapback] GFX card I can manage but sadly I will with my current connection speed..... damn my &^$*%#$@ ISP Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensayshun Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Your ping is just how long it takes for your computer to send a kind of reply to the server. It's purely based on your internet connection. Don't do anything that uses the internet whilst playing cs, upgrading your computer won't help. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PukiMan Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Guys, his connection just fine. He just need to improve first his FPS in game, to get a better ping. I just don't see how that card can deliver nicer FPS in DirectX game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyder Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Your ping depends of your connection quality, and the server you're playing. Try changing your cl_updaterate, cl_cmdrate. Edit your config.cfg and add a line like this : bind "F12" "screenshot" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling Ice Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 Sensayshun said: Don't do anything that uses the internet whilst playing cs, upgrading your computer won't help. 586344170[/snapback] I never run any thing just the game. Floyder said: Your ping depends of your connection quality, and the server you're playing.Try changing your cl_updaterate, cl_cmdrate. Edit your config.cfg and add a line like this : bind "F12" "screenshot" 586344174[/snapback] so what kind of values do you recommend for the above commands? I will try that F12, many thanks :) PukiMan said: Guys, his connection just fine. He just need to improve first his FPS in game, to get a better ping.I just don't see how that card can deliver nicer FPS in DirectX game. 586344176[/snapback] Yes PukiMan, everyone tells me that, but I need to know how... my fps reaches 50's but during the play it goes down to 20-30's...... I need some commands to try tuning it up... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
samg Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 256kbps internet isnt fast. I used to get 90 on my ISDN. on 512 i could only get 30 at best. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerm Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Ping and FPS are two very different things peeps. Some people ere seem to have merged them together. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling Ice Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 Kerm said: Ping and FPS are two very different things peeps.Some people ere seem to have merged them together. 586344198[/snapback] Enlighten us please..... if it's not much to explain. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxious Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Kerm said: Ping and FPS are two very different things peeps.Some people ere seem to have merged them together. 586344198[/snapback] but in-game ping is related to fps - lower fps, the game engine can't reply as fast to pings (generalising here, some engines have their own way of calculating "ping" based on actual command packets) either way it creates LAGGGGG :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensayshun Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Ping is the time it takes for your computer to kind of reply to the server, the server will send a message and your computer will respond. The time it takes is your ping. This depends on your internet connection and the servers position etc. FPS (Frames per second) is how many frames your screen shows per second, this relies on your graphics card mostly but other system components too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerm Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 'Fps' are the frames per second that your system is managing to run whatever game your playing, online, offline, it doesn't matter. It has nothing to do with the internet in any way, and is directly related to your Cpu, Gfx card, Ram etc, basically your systems ability to run the game. Ping is the speed at which your computer sends and recieves packets of infomation from the server your playing on. Entirely internet based. Usually the better your connection: the better your ping. I don't know the text book definition of 'ping' but im sure if you goolge it you'll find out, if you want. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PukiMan Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Dude, you gonna get 999 ping while running the game on 1FPS. You don't see it, but it's related. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling Ice Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 don't you just love this forum..... really active :D I will later to lower game resolution and play arround with the above 2 commands and see if will make the ping lower....I will update this topic ASAP many thanks to all repliers.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586344240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy2k4 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Im on 512 and had a ping of 10 on a server i regulary play. I also get about 40fps on source, but 100 on 1.6...weird, anyway yeah, spyware and stuff affects ping too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des429 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 dont tell him to upgrade his computer if he is complaining about the ping, not the fps. hardware affects the fps, not ping in anyway. i tried playing source with my 1800+, 512mb, fx5200 card and i got like 10 fps lol. it was sad, but because i've got a great connection (road runner), i still got like 20 for my ping. so dont tell him to upgrade when it wont do ****. its his conenction thats making it. 90 isn't bad either, its when u get to like 150+, thats when i would start worrying. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSmiggins Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 First things first, take CS out of the equation, find your target server and ping it from a command prompt (most are set to reply, some won't), then compare this ping to the one you get in game, if it's close, it's your connection, if it's not, it's CS. If this ping is really high, you're not going to get a good ping in CS Most important thing I've found in terms of ping (aside from connection) is the 'rate' command, this sets the amount of data you can send/recieve per second. If you're connections good, you want it set to 20000, NEVER go higher than that, you'll just choke your connection/the servers connection, or at least use more bandwidth for no purpose. You can get your current rate setting by opening the console and just typing 'rate' and pressing enter. If your worrying about your connection i'd set it to 10000, that seems to be the best tradeoff. Also, I know everyone debating this, if you've got a low fps (<20) this can affect your ping, as the PC will be busy doing everything, I'd lower your settings a little. till you get something playable, then you can afford to start putting more processor time into data packets (I know this isn't the greatest explanation, in fact from reading it, it makes little sense, but I hope the points come across) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeburner Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 PukiMan said: Dude, you gonna get 999 ping while running the game on 1FPS.You don't see it, but it's related. 586344226[/snapback] Funny, I cranked up Doom 3 to 1600x1200 4xAA/AF one time, and got around 2 or 3fps, my ping was still 20ms on most servers. Went back to 1024x768 medium settings, FPS went up to around 40 or 50, ping was still 20 :laugh: ping does NOT equal FPS or visa versa. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryb Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 ping hasnt nothing to do with your graphics card or whatever Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacey Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 exactly. it is normally dependant on your ISP, distance to the server you're playing on, and some command rate variables. biggest thing is distance to server, which is something you can control. pick servers that are closer. cs:s requires very little bandwidth, but good latency with your ISP -- unfortunately you can't control that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramble Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Double negative there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom77 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 i Have prett much the same kinda system as u except 512 mb ram and my fx5200 is 256mb. cc:s plays fine for my iam not actually too sure how fast my connection is i can download stuff at about 105kb/s at best.. so what ever that is, my ping is usually between 30 and 50. try fixin your rates, i can't remeber what they the commands are though also try using this command cl_smooth 0 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 There was a way to make your ping 5 all the time lmao. But I think they fixed that now. If anyone remembers the command for the console, please post. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586345993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling Ice Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 I've tried playing with cl_updaterate and cl_cmdrate which made my ping reachs max of 110 and actually it became 90 most of the time. I guess I will try rate command (Thanks McSmiggins for the post, it really helpfull) and see the results. I've always picked the closer servers, actually I have a server that uses the same ISP provider as mine, but my ping is still around 120-90, but I feel that I can reach 60 or even less, I have a feeling for this. 120-90 is not that bad actually, I can get kills up to 50 per map, but I guess with lower ping I can get higher kills, I need to please the devil inside me :D I will for sure change my Graphics card soon, this will boost my fps. I will try 'rate' tonight and will update you.... many thanks all Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355683-how-to-get-low-ping-in-cs-source/#findComment-586348723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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