How to get low ping in CS Source

[Boiling Ice]

the lowest ping I've ever get was 90, I have an ADSL 256/64 speed.

my pc has:

2.6G Intel

1 GB RAM

Nvidia Fx5200 with 128 RAM

I feel that I can turn up CS to give me a ping like 60 or 50... what shall I do??

any tips will be highly appreciated.

P.S.... how to take a screen shot in CS source?

[PukiMan]

Maybe better GFX card and aster Internet connection?

edit: Nah, just better graphic card will do the job.

[Boiling Ice]

  PukiMan said:

Maybe better GFX card and aster Internet connection?

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GFX card I can manage but sadly I will with my current connection speed..... damn my &^$*%#$@ ISP

[Sensayshun]

Your ping is just how long it takes for your computer to send a kind of reply to the server.

It's purely based on your internet connection.

Don't do anything that uses the internet whilst playing cs, upgrading your computer won't help.

[PukiMan]

Guys, his connection just fine. He just need to improve first his FPS in game, to get a better ping.

I just don't see how that card can deliver nicer FPS in DirectX game.

[Floyder]

Your ping depends of your connection quality, and the server you're playing.

Try changing your cl_updaterate, cl_cmdrate.

Edit your config.cfg and add a line like this :

bind "F12" "screenshot"

[Boiling Ice]

  Sensayshun said:

Don't do anything that uses the internet whilst playing cs, upgrading your computer won't help.

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I never run any thing just the game.

  Floyder said:

Your ping depends of your connection quality, and the server you're playing.

Try changing your cl_updaterate, cl_cmdrate.

Edit your config.cfg and add a line like this :

bind "F12" "screenshot"

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so what kind of values do you recommend for the above commands?

I will try that F12, many thanks :)

  PukiMan said:

Guys, his connection just fine. He just need to improve first his FPS in game, to get a better ping.

I just don't see how that card can deliver nicer FPS in DirectX game.

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Yes PukiMan, everyone tells me that, but I need to know how... my fps reaches 50's but during the play it goes down to 20-30's......

I need some commands to try tuning it up...

[samg]

256kbps internet isnt fast. I used to get 90 on my ISDN. on 512 i could only get 30 at best.

[Kerm]

Ping and FPS are two very different things peeps.

Some people ere seem to have merged them together.

[Boiling Ice]

  Kerm said:

Ping and FPS are two very different things peeps.

Some people ere seem to have merged them together.

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Enlighten us please..... if it's not much to explain.

[Maxious]

  Kerm said:

Ping and FPS are two very different things peeps.

Some people ere seem to have merged them together.

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but in-game ping is related to fps - lower fps, the game engine can't reply as fast to pings (generalising here, some engines have their own way of calculating "ping" based on actual command packets)

either way it creates LAGGGGG :p

[Sensayshun]

Ping is the time it takes for your computer to kind of reply to the server, the server will send a message and your computer will respond. The time it takes is your ping. This depends on your internet connection and the servers position etc.

FPS (Frames per second) is how many frames your screen shows per second, this relies on your graphics card mostly but other system components too.

[Kerm]

'Fps' are the frames per second that your system is managing to run whatever game your playing, online, offline, it doesn't matter.

It has nothing to do with the internet in any way, and is directly related to your Cpu, Gfx card, Ram etc, basically your systems ability to run the game.

Ping is the speed at which your computer sends and recieves packets of infomation from the server your playing on. Entirely internet based. Usually the better your connection: the better your ping.

I don't know the text book definition of 'ping' but im sure if you goolge it you'll find out, if you want.

[PukiMan]

Dude, you gonna get 999 ping while running the game on 1FPS.

You don't see it, but it's related.

[Boiling Ice]

don't you just love this forum..... really active :D

I will later to lower game resolution and play arround with the above 2 commands and see if will make the ping lower....I will update this topic ASAP

many thanks to all repliers....

[sharpy2k4]

Im on 512 and had a ping of 10 on a server i regulary play. I also get about 40fps on source, but 100 on 1.6...weird, anyway yeah, spyware and stuff affects ping too.

[Des429]

dont tell him to upgrade his computer if he is complaining about the ping, not the fps. hardware affects the fps, not ping in anyway.

i tried playing source with my 1800+, 512mb, fx5200 card and i got like 10 fps lol. it was sad, but because i've got a great connection (road runner), i still got like 20 for my ping. so dont tell him to upgrade when it wont do ****. its his conenction thats making it.

90 isn't bad either, its when u get to like 150+, thats when i would start worrying.

[McSmiggins]

First things first, take CS out of the equation, find your target server and ping it from a command prompt (most are set to reply, some won't), then compare this ping to the one you get in game, if it's close, it's your connection, if it's not, it's CS. If this ping is really high, you're not going to get a good ping in CS

Most important thing I've found in terms of ping (aside from connection) is the 'rate' command, this sets the amount of data you can send/recieve per second. If you're connections good, you want it set to 20000, NEVER go higher than that, you'll just choke your connection/the servers connection, or at least use more bandwidth for no purpose. You can get your current rate setting by opening the console and just typing 'rate' and pressing enter. If your worrying about your connection i'd set it to 10000, that seems to be the best tradeoff.

Also, I know everyone debating this, if you've got a low fps (<20) this can affect your ping, as the PC will be busy doing everything, I'd lower your settings a little. till you get something playable, then you can afford to start putting more processor time into data packets (I know this isn't the greatest explanation, in fact from reading it, it makes little sense, but I hope the points come across)

[Ridgeburner]

  PukiMan said:

Dude, you gonna get 999 ping while running the game on 1FPS.

You don't see it, but it's related.

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Funny, I cranked up Doom 3 to 1600x1200 4xAA/AF one time, and got around 2 or 3fps, my ping was still 20ms on most servers. Went back to 1024x768 medium settings, FPS went up to around 40 or 50, ping was still 20 :laugh:

ping does NOT equal FPS or visa versa.

[terryb]

ping hasnt nothing to do with your graphics card or whatever

[spacey]

exactly. it is normally dependant on your ISP, distance to the server you're playing on, and some command rate variables.

biggest thing is distance to server, which is something you can control. pick servers that are closer.

cs:s requires very little bandwidth, but good latency with your ISP -- unfortunately you can't control that.

[Ramble]

Double negative there.

[freedom77]

i Have prett much the same kinda system as u except 512 mb ram and my fx5200 is 256mb. cc:s plays fine for my

iam not actually too sure how fast my connection is i can download stuff at about 105kb/s at best.. so what ever that is, my ping is usually between 30 and 50.

try fixin your rates, i can't remeber what they the commands are though

also try using this command

cl_smooth 0

[Randolph]

There was a way to make your ping 5 all the time lmao. But I think they fixed that now. If anyone remembers the command for the console, please post.

[Boiling Ice]

I've tried playing with cl_updaterate and cl_cmdrate which made my ping reachs max of 110 and actually it became 90 most of the time.

I guess I will try rate command (Thanks McSmiggins for the post, it really helpfull) and see the results. I've always picked the closer servers, actually I have a server that uses the same ISP provider as mine, but my ping is still around 120-90, but I feel that I can reach 60 or even less, I have a feeling for this.

120-90 is not that bad actually, I can get kills up to 50 per map, but I guess with lower ping I can get higher kills, I need to please the devil inside me :D

I will for sure change my Graphics card soon, this will boost my fps. I will try 'rate' tonight and will update you....

many thanks all