Stupid Java

August 21, 2005

My Java install is about 120MB. Does anyone know of a better smaller install please or even a better way to install Java so it is not taking up 120MB.

I am using Sun's version 5 with update 4.

Thanks

3,508 · August 21, 2005

Basically sun's java is all there is, Microsoft did have one but they stopped supporting it eons ago because it was slow and buggy as hell.

August 21, 2005

Is there a smaller version?

1,645 · August 21, 2005

You can pry Microsoft's VM out of my cold, dead hands. I still install it on every new computer that I get. I refuse to touch Sun's bloated piece of crap.

3,247 · August 21, 2005

not that i kno of... well other than the MS version..

8,255 · August 21, 2005

Mines 54mb.

Might wanna remove the caching or limit it. Mine is set to 0 bytes

August 21, 2005

Will Microsoft's version work with Firefox?

Thanks

1,645 · August 21, 2005

bid1 said:
Will Microsoft's version work with Firefox?
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Nope.

August 21, 2005

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You can pry Microsoft's VM out of my cold, dead hands. I still install it on every new computer that I get. I refuse to touch Sun's bloated piece of crap.

Uh, ok then. Enjoy your outdated proprietary, bug-ridden, security flawed garbage. It's so bad that Microsoft themselves stopped supporting it and released a utility to remove it.

1,570 · August 21, 2005

Ravensworth said:
Uh, ok then. Enjoy your outdated proprietary, bug-ridden, security flawed garbage. It's so bad that Microsoft themselves stopped supporting it and released a utility to remove it.

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Where do I find this utility?? I'd like to remove it myself.

1,207 · August 21, 2005

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4158

Edit: My Java install's ~137 MB, 10 MB cache.

1,645 · August 21, 2005

Ravensworth said:
Enjoy your outdated proprietary, bug-ridden, security flawed garbage.
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I have been, and I plan to continue doing so.

August 21, 2005

WHY IS IT SO BIG OF AN INSTALL?

9,221 · August 21, 2005

MS stopped supporting MSJava because Sun got all ****y over it being inlcuded in Xp or something to that effect. There was a court ruling if I'm not mistaken.

1,645 · August 21, 2005

You are correct.

August 21, 2005

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because Sun got all ****y over it

Why shouldn't they, Java belongs to them and Microsoft was doing their best to steal it and turn it into proprietary Windows/IE only code. All they really did was make a buggy piece of trash, good riddance to it. My Sun Java folder is 58MB, but even if it was 200 I wouldn't see the problem. On a 200GB hard drive is 200MB really worth crying about? It's not 200MB by the way, that's your cache. You can adjust that or turn it off you know.

August 21, 2005

Java takes up over 100 megs yes, but in the day and age when a Gig is less than a dollar, and java is such a useful development tool its considered acceptable. There is not a whole lot you can do about it (other than using Microsoft's versions of Java.) You could always go overboard and get a bigger version and download the SDK. ;)

1,570 · August 21, 2005

DELTA75329 said:
Where do I find this utility?? I'd like to remove it myself.

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Nevermind - found out how after some searching.

Check this out if you still have that crappy MS VM on your box and wanna rid yourself of it for good:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/How..._JVM-tut97.html

1,084 · August 21, 2005

bid1 said:
My Java install is about 120MB. Does anyone know of a better smaller install please or even a better way to install Java so it is not taking up 120MB.
I am using Sun's version 5 with update 4.

Thanks

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bid1, I did this a long time ago. It was with Version 1.5.0.02. I think today Sun Java is up to Version 1.5.0.04. I don't have Java installed at present, and I can't really tell you how much space I saved by doing this, but it did save me some, and everything seemed to still work okay.

I deleted these:

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_03

I deleted all the individual files

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_03\javaws

I deleted the folder and it's contents.

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_03\lib

All individual files except for the 5 ".jar" extension files.

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_03\lib

I deleted the entire "images" folder and its contents

I deleted the entire "zi" folder and its contents (additional language files)

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Java

I deleted the entire folder and its contents.

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop

I deleted Java Web Start.

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Java Web Start

I deleted the Java Web Start folder.

C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Sun\Java\Deployment

I deleted the javaws folder and its contents.

C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\{7148F0A6-6813-11D6-A77B-00B0D0142030}

Here I delete the "Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_03.msi" file,

but I keep the "1033.MST" file.

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Other Files to consider deleting...

A savings of 792KB...hardly worth it, but if it works without it, why not?

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_03\lib\applet