Hiphop, Rap has destroyed Music

[SmacK]

I can't vouch for it's authenticity, but it is very funny and ironically, very relevant to this thread.

:rofl:

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Thanks for pointing out a song that was heavily rotated on MTV and the radio, hence a mainstream hit. You are a winner!

[rbet]

I can't vouch for it's authenticity, but it is very funny and ironically, very relevant to this thread.

This paper was turned in by an Oakland High school student who received the highest honors at the school district?s Ebonics translation competition.

Assignment: Please translate the following Rap song lyrics from Ebonics to standard English.

Artist: Notorious B.I.G.

Album: Ready to Die

Song: One more chance (remix)

Lyrics:

First things first, I poppa, freaks all the honeys

Dummies - playboy bunnies, those wantin? money

Those the ones I like ?cause they don?t get nathan?

But penetration, unless it smells like sanitation

Garbage, I turn like oorknobs

Heart throb, never, black and ugly as ever

However, I stay coochied down to the socks

Rings and watch filled with rocks

TRANSLATION:

As a general rule, I perform deviant sexual acts with women of all kinds, including but not limited to those with limited intellect, nude magazine models, and prostitutes. I particularly enjoy sexual encounters with the latter group as they are generally disappointed in the fact that they only receive penile intercourse and nothing more, unless of course, they douche on a consistent basis. Although I am extremely unattractive, I am able to engage in these types of sexual acts with some regularity. Perhaps my sexuality is somehow related to my fancy and expensive jewelry.

Lyrics:

And my jam knock in the Mitsubishi

Girls pee pee when they see me, Nava-hoes creep me in they tee pee

As I lay down laws like I lay carpet

Stop it - if you think your gonna make a profit

TRANSLATION:

I enjoy playing my music loudly on my car stereo. Apparently, women enjoy this also because they become sexually aroused when they see me driving. Oddly enough, when I visit the Native American reservations, some of the more sexually promiscuous Indian women attempt to seduce me in their homes. Their intent is to divest me of my earnings. Such actions are unacceptable.

Lyrics:

Don?t see my ones, don?t see my guns - get it

Now tell ya friends Poppa hit it then split it

In two as I flow with the Junior Mafia

I don?t know what the hell?s stoppin? ya

I?m clockin? ya - Versace shades watchin? ya

Once ya grin, I?m in game, begin

TRANSLATION:

Understand this fact: you can have neither my money, nor my weapons. I suggest that you inform your peers that we engaged in violent sexual acts. Currently, I am rapping with my associates, the Junior Mafia. I?m having some difficulty understanding why you refuse to approach me. I am attempting to make eye contact with you through my expensive glasses, and as soon as you respond with a smile, I will approach you.

Lyrics:

First I talk about how I dress and this

And diamond necklaces - stretch Lexuses

The sex is just immaculate from the back I get

Deeper and deeper - help ya reach the

Climax that your man can?t make

Call and tell him you?ll be home real late

Let?s sing the break

TRANSLATION:

I prefer to open the conversation with light banter about my wardrobe and jewelry, then I like to discuss my collection of expensive cars. This is more than enough to convince you to have sexual intercourse with me. I am able to insert my penis further into you when I enter you from behind. Furthermore, you will be able to reach orgasm. I understand this to be a problem with your current sexual partner. He needn?t be concerned about your whereabouts. Please phone him and inform him that you won?t be home for a while. By the way, please sing the chorus of the song for me also.

Lyrics:

She?s sick of that song on how it?s so long

Thought he worked his until I handled my biz

There I is - major pain like Damon Wayans

Low down dirty even like his brother Keenan

Schemin? - don?t bring your girl ?round me

True player for real, ask Puff Daddy

TRANSLATION:

Your current love interest no longer wishes to hear your fabrications about the length of your member. After I had sexual intercourse with your woman, she became enlightened as to the proper way it is supposed to be performed; violently and immorally. It would be in your best interest to keep your woman away from me as my sexual prowess is very strong. If you are unconvinced, ask Puff Daddy.

Lyrics:

You - ringin? bells with bags from Chanel

Baby Benz, traded in your Hyundai Excel

Fully equipped, CD changer with the cell

She beeped me, meet me at twelve

TRANSLATION:

Despite the fact that you attempted to win her at her doorstep with bags full of expensive clothes and a car (the lower end model Mercedes Benz which you financed by signing over your current vehicle) containing an expensive stereo and a cellular phone, your woman has contacted me through my pager indicating that we should rendezvous at midnight.

Lyrics:

Where you at? Flippin? jobs, playin? car notes?

While I?m swimmin? in ya women like the breast stroke

Right stroke, left stroke what?s the best stroke

Death stroke - tongue all down her throat

Nuthin? left to do but send her home to you

I?m through - can ya sing the song for me, boo?

TRANSLATION:

You, on the other hand, jump from job to job, barely able to maintain payments on the Mercedes Benz you purchased for your woman. Meanwhile, I continue to engage in sexual intercourse and commit lewd osculatory acts with your women. My only remaining option is to request that she leave my home and return to you because I have reached orgasm and no longer have a need for her presence.

Lyrics:

So, what?s it gonna be? Him or me?

We can cruise the world with pearls

Gator boots for girls

The envy of all women, crushed linen

Cartier wrist-wear with diamonds in ?em

The finest women I love with a passion

Ya man?s a wimp, I give that ass a good thrashin?

TRANSLATION:

The ultimate decision rests with you. Whom do you choose as your sexual partner. I can take you on cruises around the world. I will dress you in the finest jewelry and footwear. You will be envied by women worldwide in your fine clothes and jewelry. There is a special place in my heart for beautiful women. I will defeat your man in an altercation because he is effeminate.

Lyrics:

High fashion - flyin? into all states.

Sexin? me while your man masturbates.

Isn?t this great? Your flight leaves at eight.

Her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds.

Lyrically I?m supposed to represent.

I?m not only the client, I?m the player president

TRANSLATION:

You will be dressed in finest clothes on the runways of Paris. I will fly you to every state to shop for fine clothes and jewelry. You will enjoy sexual intercourse with me and your man will be forced to pleasure himself through manual stimulation. What a life! I?ll return you to LaGuardia in time to catch your 8 o?clock flight. The timing is perfect because I have scheduled a date with a second woman who arrives at the same gate at 9 o?clock. I?ll seduce her in the same way that I seduced you. I rap well and I am a positive reflection of my home town. Not only am I a sexually deviant, misogynistic, immoral, wealthy, male prostitute, but I also sit on the board:rofl:rectors of the organization that governs others of my kind.

:rofl:

[mntbikeracer1]

Hip Hop has destroyed music as much as Rock did.  Hip Hop is as much music as Rock is.

Accept it, Rock has been replaced by Hip Hop.

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Rock has hardly been replace it is thriving. And I would guess will soon overtake rap once again. Look at all the startup bands out there what is most of the underground music world listening to what is being played at your local venues. Mostly rock is what I am seeing. It has hardly been replaced.

[MGS4-SS]

Hip Hop has destroyed music as much as Rock did. Hip Hop is as much music as Rock is.

Accept it, Rock has been replaced by Hip Hop.

[mntbikeracer1]

You said underground, not mainstream. I think you rang the bell right there. Now go back and read what everyone has been trying to defend.

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I was in no way saying mainstream. But how do we predict what will be in the mainstream in the future by looking at trends in the underground and smaller venues. Duh.

[SmacK]

Rock has hardly been replace it is thriving.  And I would guess will soon overtake rap once again.  Look at all the startup bands out there what is most of the underground music world listening to what is being played at your local venues.  Mostly rock is what I am seeing.  It has hardly been replaced.

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You said underground, not mainstream. I think you rang the bell right there. Now go back and read what everyone has been trying to defend.

To add, ever heard of the expession, you only see what you want? You ignore the hip-hop underground scene at local venues and you probably have them but don't want to acknowledge them because it doesn't fit your taste.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Rock has been replaced in a sense that it is no longer the "new controversial" genre. Rap has taken that mantel.

Rock has become fully embraced as Rap eventually will. No big deal - but some people seem to have issue with it!

[Sota]

/Rant

Why the hell do people like this crap. this isnt even music. This is one of the reasons channels like MTV and VH1 have become like crap. There is no concept of Music in this genre, only sex, guns and voilence, thats it. Sure im into rock and alternative rock but the definition of music is demolished with this kind of crap. Why the hell do people listen to this and make it go to top of the charts. All the music of this genre has one damn theme. Girls, guns, Girls, guns, girls, guns. Thats all

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Rock doesn't have guns, girls, and drugs? Hell, rock made guns, girls and drugs popular.

Come back to earth....

Some rap sucks...yes, but not the whole genre.

Just because someone doesn't like a form of music doesn't mean it sucks. How wonderfully typical :whistle:

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

I walk round london, and the majority of the major underground clubs and artists are rap/hip-hop related!

[mntbikeracer1]

What you think they just magically appear in Hollywood as a huge band no.

[SmacK]

I was in no way saying mainstream.  But how do we predict what will be in the mainstream in the future by looking at trends in the underground and smaller venues.  Duh.

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Because everything has there big break. Rock, Rap, R&B, Dance, Trance, Techno, etc. It will exposed to the media which then it will be destroyed and only few will know what is "real".

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Yes. Too much money was pumped into the MTV rock generation, that bands did one quick demo and got given contracts, and then left to fail. THIS killed the industry!

[mntbikeracer1]

I walk round london, and the majority of the major underground clubs and artists are rap/hip-hop related!

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This is very true, however I think it is hard to compare UK rap to american. It is very different and personally I find some of it quite enjoyable. But I find it very, very different.

[Crackler]

This is the typical attitude and generalizations i've come to expect from many of the members around here.  You obviously know only what you see on MTV, which is a very small part of what is available out there.  Grow up, and do some actual thinking and research before you hit the post button.  Your comments are as ridiculous and brainwashed as if I had said that all metal music was about worshipping satan and was turning children into zombies so they would commit suicide. Or that all country music was about killing my wife and being sad because my dog died.

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Amen. :sleep:

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

UK rap certainly seems a lot harder edged to American - but sometimes a lot more "fake" too. Aghain, good UK rap is good, bad UK rap is bad!

[SmacK]

This is very true, however I think it is hard to compare UK rap to american.  It is very different and personally I find some of it quite enjoyable.  But I find it very, very different.

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Rap is rap, wether it comes from a different country, it's rap, it's music. That's like me saying "Oasis is the only alternative I listen to because it's UK rock, not US rock"

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Glad someone mentioned Oasis. "We're mad for it, rock'n'roll, working class mad for it. Have you seen my new house in Hello magazine?".

Sellouts through and through - and they were the supposed leaders in the whole newer wave of rock bands. They freaking killed UK rock for a while.

Anyhow, they were guitar pop posing as rock! Marketing over musical ability!

[SmacK]

As i'm typing, i'm listening to Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby, and if you pay attention to the lyrics, he talks about is girls, drugs, and violence, but you can see he doesn't repsent all of hip-hop now does he? This is pop music as its best.

[illicit]

I'm sick of all you ignorant people saying this - constantly! What is the point? What is your problem? I know majority of you are suburban, and I forgive you for that, but this is ridiculous.

Not music? So it doesn't fit YOUR definition of 'music', but to others it is music. Who are you to say what is/isn't music? As long as it has harmony/melody/rhythm, it is defined as 'music'. They are all artists and they have artistic liberty to express themselves as they wish.

Rap/ R&B music isn't all about guns, violence or girls. Rappers rhyme about what they've been through, or what they feel. A lot of them have come from turbulent backgrounds, so this is their way of coping with it.

And R&B? How ignorant can you get? R&B music covers every single emotion/situation. It is one of the most diverse (topic-wise). If you were more open-minded, I'd recommend Craig David's new release to you. Listen to some R&B. Repeated topics could be said for any genre. Metal and Anger? Emo and Heart-breaks? The list goes on...

Now, I'm not Rap fan myself. I listen to Rock music, however I appreciate every single genre of music. It's all art, and I guess it takes a level of class to be more forgiving to art.

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I would have to agree with you there.

[mntbikeracer1]

UK rap certainly seems a lot harder edged to American - but sometimes a lot more "fake" too.  Aghain, good UK rap is good, bad UK rap is bad!

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True

Rap is rap, wether it comes from a different country, it's rap, it's music. That's like me saying "Oasis is the only alternative I listen to because it's UK rock, not US rock"

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No it is different. Rap in the UK has not been spoiled by money hungry rich white guys in New York and Hollywood.

[STV]

real music is u2, coldplay, even other alternate and hard rock and some pop music is original music like it was in the 90's but hip hop is all about bikini clad women shaking thier booty

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LOL! you're funny!

You are not the sole judge on what is good for everyone. This is just your opinion, which is extremely far from fact.

I will admit, that I despise rap and hip-hop, but that doesn't mean that is just plain sucks. It may suck for you, but not for everyone.

I hate U2 and coldplay, and that is my opinion, not fact.

are you a programmer? if you are, then hopefully you'll understand this:

opinion != fact

STV

[OrangeSoul]

LOL! you're funny!

You are not the sole judge on what is good for everyone.  This is just your opinion, which is extremely far from fact.

I will admit, that I despise rap and hip-hop, but that doesn't mean that is just plain sucks.  It may suck for you, but not for everyone.

I hate U2 and coldplay, and that is my opinion, not fact.

are you a programmer?  if you are, then hopefully you'll understand this:

opinion != fact

STV

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rant != apply to everyone . look at original post

[OrangeSoul]

As i'm typing, i'm listening to Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby, and if you pay attention to the lyrics, he talks about is girls, drugs, and violence, but you can see he doesn't repsent all of hip-hop now does he? This is pop music as its best.

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and now you know why Vanilla ice was a one hit wonder among pop fans

[mntbikeracer1]

As i'm typing, i'm listening to Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby, and if you pay attention to the lyrics, he talks about is girls, drugs, and violence, but you can see he doesn't repsent all of hip-hop now does he? This is pop music as its best.

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Ouch you should turn that crap off. Just ouch.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Not to nitpick, but:

I hate U2 and coldplay, and that is my opinion, not fact.

Actually, that you hate them, is a fact, not an opinion. But I got what you meant.