Hiphop, Rap has destroyed Music

[ZiGGA]

I love all types of music.

It doesn't mean people have to like anyones style of music or go on about how much they hate it..

nobody cares... I know I don't.

Personally over the years I have learned to appreciate the production of a song. I'm a big fan of Rap/Hip Hop but at the same time I think there's alot of material which is pretty awful. This isn't just the case with Rap though, alot of genres have their bad songs. I like what I like and whatever you like, well whatever.

I think the lyrical side of things you're on about 'guns and girls guns and girls' as you put it. there's alot of songs that go on about this but that doesn't mean all Rap is like this, there's some amazing songs out there from the heart stuff, really amazing lyrics put together with a great beat behind it. Songs that go on about the true facts of life. I like the real stuff, not the 'Lets get some Ho*s and pop ya with my AK' type songs.. cos well they aint really meaning much to me.

It's simple, don't listen to what you don't like. Listen to what you love.

[Chris Allen Veteran]

I agree...in my opinion I believe that rap/hip-hop is the driving force behind most of the crimes in Toronto and other parts of the world. I know a lot of ppl are not going to agree with me on this one but here in Toronto the vast majority of ppl committing shootings do list to rap/hip-hop. I don?t see ppl that listen to rock music or classical or w/e going around shooting ppl in Toronto.

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You don't see many shootings at Guvernment (on Saturdays), Boa, System Soundbar, or Republik now do yo;);) (all dance music clubs for those non-Torontonians)

Combined, we're looking at ... oh ... 5-7000 people through these clubs?

Yet how many shootings have there been at small clubs like Money (hip-hop club). Yeah, music does nothing for the crowd...riiiiigh;);)

[halflife28]

/Rant

Why the hell do people like this crap. this isnt even music. This is one of the reasons channels like MTV and VH1 have become like crap. There is no concept of Music in this genre, only sex, guns and voilence, thats it. Sure im into rock and alternative rock but the definition of music is demolished with this kind of crap. Why the hell do people listen to this and make it go to top of the charts. All the music of this genre has one damn theme. Girls, guns, Girls, guns, girls, guns. Thats all

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You are seriously misguided on Hip-Hop. It is not music but a way to express yourself, and do not stereotype on what you hear on the radio that is NOT Hip-Hop. Listen to The Roots.

[Joseph B]

All music these days blows. Because of what our society is becoming.

:sleep:

Next thread.

[Qarth]

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You are the most ignorant sons of bitches I have ever seen. That's right IGNORANT SONS OF BITCHES. You are gonna sit there and knock Rap but promote emulating sacks of smeely dog ****e like Korn or Coldplay?

You might want to listen to some lyricism. How about you take your ass back to grand master flash and listen to the message. Oh wait. This thread was started by a retard teenager.

If this is what neowin has turned into, count me out.

[Doli]

Might as well add heavy metal for destroying music, bunch of doped up people worshping the devil. Wait that not true, just like hip hop and rap destroying music is not true. Your judging all of hip hop and rap on what? the top 10 that are played on the radio or music videos over and over from 50 Cents and horrible Eminem not looking at the whole community like Dilated Peoples, Mos Def,Talib Kweli ("get by" - one of my favorite songs), etc.

Side note: How many of you defend video games but are ok to blame rap for violence?

[Qarth]

Maybe you should read through the entire thread there Mr. Musica Genius and see some of the educational references between different styles of music.  Oh but wait, your response was written by a pure 'retard' as you called the thread started.  Why waste my time typing this :rolleyes:

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Oh plenty was read there hoss... Besides, who are you to me again?

[Chris Allen Veteran]

Report me:

You are the most ignorant sons of bitches I have ever seen.  That's right IGNORANT SONS OF BITCHES.  You are gonna sit there and knock Rap but promote emulating sacks of smeely dog ****e like Korn or Coldplay? 

You might want to listen to some lyricism.  How about you take your ass back to grand master flash and listen to the message.  Oh wait.  This thread was started by a retard teenager. 

If this is what neowin has turned into, count me out.

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Maybe you should read through the entire thread there Mr. Musical Genius and see some of the educational references between different styles of music. Oh but wait, your response was written by a pure 'retard' as you called the thread started. Why waste my time typing this :rolleyes:

Oh, and you're welcome to leave at anytime ;) With comments like those, nobody is pushing you to stay.

[halflife28]

Report me:

You are the most ignorant sons of bitches I have ever seen.  That's right IGNORANT SONS OF BITCHES.  You are gonna sit there and knock Rap but promote emulating sacks of smeely dog ****e like Korn or Coldplay? 

You might want to listen to some lyricism.  How about you take your ass back to grand master flash and listen to the message.  Oh wait.  This thread was started by a retard teenager. 

If this is what neowin has turned into, count me out.

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That's so true, but music is a touchy subject. It really depends on what you grew up on and how you were raised. Suburban children and teens are more subject to listen to punk/pop/hip-pop while blacks/whites that grew up in places like Detroit (Me) tend to listen to lyrically hip-hop while the older whites from the suburbs listen to classic rock from the 60-70s.

[us3rX]

It's simple, don't listen to what you don't like. Listen to what you love.

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Enough said.

us3rX :ninja:

[Azadre]

Also, I like Coldplay, along with most to all hip-hop. I used to like metal, but now it seems too angry. Like I have some Korn, but I just skip it when ever it plays.

[EduardValencia]

yap,agree,RAP SUX,for example,nike changed al the target segment to hiphoppers and rappers,in the world,because there are too many,and they saw it as a more profitable merket segment,remeber those old days,when nike launched and launched those classic models,everyone loved nike

-sigh- :rolleyes:

[Qarth]

I agree I don't think rap can even be considered as a music genre. It's a last degradation of human civilization. It's one of the reasons that people are becoming dumber and dumber.

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Yeah, five syllable words in rymes that tell a story mainly using metaphors is very simple. Get over it Higher Learning boy. Oh and go die while you are at it. The human race would be better without people like you.

[halflife28]

Rap sucks but not Hip-Hop.

[Ciderx]

Oh yes, hip hop is all violence and rock music is all great?

Let's step a bit back in time shall we....

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=215062&hl=

Oh look, its the same people from this thread saying how violent hip hop is, laughing at rock fans being violent towards 50 cent.

Hypocritical, much?

[remix17]

I agree I don't think rap can even be considered as a music genre. It's a last degradation of human civilization. It's one of the reasons that people are becoming dumber and dumber.

[mitch00]

/Rant

Why the hell do people like this crap. this isnt even music. This is one of the reasons channels like MTV and VH1 have become like crap. There is no concept of Music in this genre, only sex, guns and voilence, thats it. Sure im into rock and alternative rock but the definition of music is demolished with this kind of crap. Why the hell do people listen to this and make it go to top of the charts. All the music of this genre has one damn theme. Girls, guns, Girls, guns, girls, guns. Thats all

End Rant/

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ya umm shut the h3ll up and stop generalzing about things like how rap has ruined music and its all about sex guns and girls. ever hear about Talib Kweli? Mos Def? Common? De la Soul? even Kanye West talks alot about religion, ok maybe alot of new poppy stuff llike 50 cent is all about that but dont go saying hip hop and rap has ruined music... and everyone is entitled to their own opinion so dont say it like its fact that rap sucks. I hate people like you who dont even listen to the music and say its garbage.. hey why dont you listen a little bit further then a few swear words and realize this IS music just like any other genre

[halflife28]

Any music about love in any level of thinking should be listened by WOMAN ONLY.

[Tokartta]

Just a further note to my earlier post (buried a few pages ago, this is a rapid thread) that music isn't all about lyrics. I know this especially as I am an artist specialising in trance. (Stop groaning.) Melodicism is just as, if not, more important in the order of qualities I assess when judging a piece of music.

[remix17]

Yeah, five syllable words in rymes that tell a story mainly using metaphors is very simple.  Get over it Higher Learning boy.  Oh and go die while you are at it.  The human race would be better without people like you.

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Wow you sound like a very mature person to me. I could say that the world would be a better place without ignorant people like you, but I got into a bit of trouble for saying this in a different post, and plus you are not even worth my time and effort.

[remix17]

ya umm shut the h3ll up and stop generalzing about things like how rap has ruined music and its all about sex guns and girls. ever hear about Talib Kweli? Mos Def? Common? De la Soul? even Kanye West talks alot about religion, ok maybe alot of new poppy stuff llike 50 cent is all about that but dont go saying hip hop and rap has ruined music... and everyone is entitled to their own opinion so dont say it like its fact that rap sucks. I hate people like you who dont even listen to the music and say its garbage.. hey why dont you listen a little bit further then a few swear words and realize this IS music just like any other genre

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Well if everyone is entitled to their own opinion, then why is it wrong for me to say that rap sux. It's my opinion as well.

Oh and this topic should be closed due to insanely high levels of flaming and name calling.

[Chris Allen Veteran]

Oh plenty was read there hoss...  Besides, who are you to me again?

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hoss

1. Hoss

A southern colloquial nickname for partner, a term of friendship.

You betta' get that grass mowed, hoss.

Sorry... I still don't really get it. Who am I to you? Nobody, just an internet screenname of a person who can hide behind the annonymity of the computer screen.

Or, if you would like to see who I am visit my myspace profile page at http://www.myspace.com/chris_allen although I warn you, considering it may have a style of music you might not be accustomed to... hoss.

[QuantumTrickery]

I'm suprised this has gone on this long without being closed. This thread degraded into the typical ignorance i expected it to.

[Tim Dorr Veteran]

I'm suprised this has gone on this long without being closed. This thread degraded into the typical ignorance i expected it to.

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I am too, so...

[theyarecomingforyou]

I love good hip-hop/rap, especially some of the fusion styles that have come from it. However, I will agree with the topic starter because the commerical hip-hop / R&B you see in the charts is a disgrace (Twista, Kanye West, Akon, [insert generic black guy from the "hood"] - it is all about over-the-top jewelery, big chrome jeeps, girls/hoes/pimps, guns, etc. At the same time I dislike all this emo/alternative music where everything is "no-one understands me" and "no-one's ever had their heart broken like me" and "how can I continue without you".

The thing is, at the end of the day, people are buying the music in the charts because they like it. That's the worrying thing... not that the artists are so stereotypical and devoid of talent, but that people actually want that from music.